David Gold asked in his Facebook wall: Imps Red. 3
on left. Your partner pass and 4 on right.
Yo have A x 
A K J x x x 
Axxx 
x. What would you bid?
This were the comments:
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Danny Sprung Double -
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Kieran Dyke I like double. Mostly for the chance to defend 4X when partner is barren -
Simon Cope X, with the same idea as Jan (worryingly). If partner is barren we haven’t beaten 4 yet to be fair -
Roger Sweetman I bid you good day sir. It is time to go home. -
Kieran Dyke 4NT is scary. What’s partner to bid with a 3532 shape? Will you play in 5?
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David Gold I agree with that -
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David Gold double and 5 are the only options imo
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Sjoert Brink I like 5, xx Qxxx, KQx, xxxx, 5 hearts cold, maybe 4 spades down 1…. -
Edward Levy i like double as we are 2641. if we were 2461 doubled and pulled 5 to 5 what would partner do if 3325 -
David Gold in answer to Ed double then pulling 5 to 5 shows 6 diamonds and likely 4, never 5 so 3325 would pass 5
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David Gold 3325 might pass the double and it is unlilkely pard has 3S, although possible at this vul
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Sarah Dunn 5. I think it is unlikely it is right for partner to pass the double. And when we are beating it we are often making 5. -
Edward Levy So a 2542 does what
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Edward Levy Agree 3spades unlikely
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David Gold 4N if bidding
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David Gold if you mean the strong hand being 2542 then he has to double, what else
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Edward Levy Over 5 I guess he just passes
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David Gold yes. 5m is usually 6
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Benjy Green X for me. Upside of partner passing when we’re not making anything and if he pulls to diamonds (unlikely but you never know) then I’ll give slam a whirl. -
Gad Chadha Dbl and fold your cards. -
Szczepan Smoczynski coming back to my 4nt if p have 3532 thn they have 10 card club fit !!!!!!
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Szczepan Smoczynski p probably will respond 5
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Richard Probst X and raise 5 to 6 -
Matthias Schüller 5. That’s my long suit; when it doubt, that often works well. -
Paul Lamford I would bid 5. Might get the best result possible than the best possible result. -
Paul Huggins 5. if we double then pull 5 to 5D then partner may be able to work out that we have this kind of hand (2 suiter for pulling 5 but not an equal 2 suiteras we would have started with 4NT) but wouldn’t we just as likely be showing longer diamonds than hearts? 5 seems safest -
David Gold The doublers intend to bid 5 after partner bids 5, appart from anything else he wont have 4 for the 5c bid (or he’d bid 4N)
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Kieran Dyke I don’t think that with KQT9xx club he should be bothering with his Jxxx diamond. I don’t think 4NT is very useful with suit lengths two cards different.
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David Gold I agree, but then he basically doesnt have 4d
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David Gold KQxx d and Jxxxxx c is clearly 4N
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Kieran Dyke True enough, but you need this sort of asymmetry in suit strengths to justify it. A good six card suit will often play better in a 6-2 than a midstrength 4-4
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David Gold I believe you were doubler, if I was wrong in saying you intended to bid 5 over 5 please speak out!
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David Gold I would bid 4N on 6/4/h here unless the clubs were alot better, like the example you gave. The doubler might have 5 or 5. with equal length and he bids 5 always (or I do at any rate)
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Micke Melander Dbl and take-out 5 if that comes back. -
Jan Kamras My problems w 5 is (1) how does pard know on what to raise and (2) why go down in 5 when 6 may be lay-down?
Dbl then 5 seems more flexible but 4NT (normally some two-suiter) may work well. Pard gives preference between minors and we bid 5. Over 5 this works very well, implying something like what we have and not leaving us any worse placed than if direct 5 or X then 5, over 5 pard will assume we have + and if he removes to 6 we bid 6, again landing in best fit, albeit sometimes a tad to high. 🙂
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David Gold I asked this on behalf of a friend. It seems its close. I first said id bid 5 then I thought maybe dbl. Im now back in the 5 camp (just) as I think the hand is too extreme on offence. Winner at the table was dbl for down 1 and 5 is down 1 too. Thanks everyone for the opinions…
