David Gold asked in his Facebook wall: Imps Red. 3 on left. Your partner pass and 4
on right.
Yo have A x
A K J x x x
Axxx
x. What would you bid?
This were the comments:
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Danny Sprung Double
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Kieran Dyke I like double. Mostly for the chance to defend 4
X when partner is barren
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Simon Cope X, with the same idea as Jan (worryingly). If partner is barren we haven’t beaten 4
yet to be fair
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Roger Sweetman I bid you good day sir. It is time to go home.
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Kieran Dyke 4NT is scary. What’s partner to bid with a 3532 shape? Will you play in 5
?
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David Gold I agree with that
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David Gold double and 5
are the only options imo
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Sjoert Brink I like 5
, xx Qxxx, KQx, xxxx, 5 hearts cold, maybe 4 spades down 1….
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Edward Levy i like double as we are 2641. if we were 2461 doubled and pulled 5
to 5
what would partner do if 3325
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David Gold in answer to Ed double then pulling 5
to 5
shows 6 diamonds and likely 4
, never 5
so 3325 would pass 5
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David Gold 3325 might pass the double and it is unlilkely pard has 3S, although possible at this vul
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Sarah Dunn 5
. I think it is unlikely it is right for partner to pass the double. And when we are beating it we are often making 5
.
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Edward Levy So a 2542 does what
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Edward Levy Agree 3spades unlikely
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David Gold 4N if bidding
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David Gold if you mean the strong hand being 2542 then he has to double, what else
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Edward Levy Over 5
I guess he just passes
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David Gold yes. 5m is usually 6
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Benjy Green X for me. Upside of partner passing when we’re not making anything and if he pulls to diamonds (unlikely but you never know) then I’ll give slam a whirl.
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Gad Chadha Dbl and fold your cards.
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Szczepan Smoczynski coming back to my 4nt if p have 3532 thn they have 10 card club fit !!!!!!
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Szczepan Smoczynski p probably will respond 5
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Richard Probst X and raise 5
to 6
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Matthias Schüller 5
. That’s my long suit; when it doubt, that often works well.
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Paul Lamford I would bid 5
. Might get the best result possible than the best possible result.
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Paul Huggins 5
. if we double then pull 5
to 5D then partner may be able to work out that we have this kind of hand (2 suiter for pulling 5
but not an equal 2 suiteras we would have started with 4NT) but wouldn’t we just as likely be showing longer diamonds than hearts? 5
seems safest
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David Gold The doublers intend to bid 5
after partner bids 5
, appart from anything else he wont have 4
for the 5c bid (or he’d bid 4N)
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Kieran Dyke I don’t think that with KQT9xx club he should be bothering with his Jxxx diamond. I don’t think 4NT is very useful with suit lengths two cards different.
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David Gold I agree, but then he basically doesnt have 4d
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David Gold KQxx d and Jxxxxx c is clearly 4N
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Kieran Dyke True enough, but you need this sort of asymmetry in suit strengths to justify it. A good six card suit will often play better in a 6-2 than a midstrength 4-4
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David Gold I believe you were doubler, if I was wrong in saying you intended to bid 5
over 5
please speak out!
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David Gold I would bid 4N on 6
/4
/h here unless the clubs were alot better, like the example you gave. The doubler might have 5
or 5
. with equal length
and
he bids 5
always (or I do at any rate)
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Micke Melander Dbl and take-out 5
if that comes back.
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Jan Kamras My problems w 5
is (1) how does pard know on what to raise and (2) why go down in 5
when 6
may be lay-down?
Dbl then 5seems more flexible but 4NT (normally some two-suiter) may work well. Pard gives preference between minors and we bid 5
. Over 5
this works very well, implying something like what we have and not leaving us any worse placed than if direct 5
or X then 5
, over 5
pard will assume we have
+
and if he removes to 6
we bid 6
, again landing in best fit, albeit sometimes a tad to high. 🙂
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David Gold I asked this on behalf of a friend. It seems its close. I first said id bid 5
then I thought maybe dbl. Im now back in the 5
camp (just) as I think the hand is too extreme on offence. Winner at the table was dbl for down 1 and 5
is down 1 too. Thanks everyone for the opinions…