vg|2008 Vanderbilt Final - #12 vs #22,2nd Quarter,I,17,32,Rubin,34,Team Poland,36| rs|4SE-1,4SE-1,4HE-1,4HE-1,4SEx-2,5CSx-1,4SN+2,4SN+2,4SS+1,5SS=,4HN+1,4HN+1,2SE-2,2NW-4,6SW-1,6SE-1,4HS-1,3NS+1,6DS-1,6HN=,3NE-3,5CW-1,3NS=,3NS=,3CS-1,2SN-1,3NN+3,3NS+3,4SEx-1,4SEx-1,4HN=,3NN-3| pn|Lesniewski,Gierulski,Weichsel,Skrzypczak,Martens,Jansma,Jassem,Verhees|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S2HKT32DAJ542CJT3,SQ9876HAJ8D9CA986,SJT53HQ96D63CQ742,SAK4H754DKQT87CK5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|mareczek: hi all :)|pg|| nt|mareczek: Martens had a good overcall|pg|| nt|mareczek: but must pay for it|pg|| nt|mareczek: there are high chances that this action will be repeated|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mareczek: 3nT does not look better than 3@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|mareczek: I think NS has more chances to make 3NT|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|me argent: not tough play with 11 tricks in nt|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Hello everyone and welcome back to Schaumburg (near Chicago) for the United States Bridge Championships 2007. Open series, quarter-finals, 8 segments of 15 boards. This is the ...|pg|| nt|Walddk1: fifth|pg|| pc|c4|nt|Walddk1: Welcome to Joey Silver from Canada|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|nt|Walddk1: Hi Joey|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c6|nt|me argent: now 10 tricks with stansby safety play in @Ds|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| nt|me argent: when south played @D 9 under Q it was safe to overtake incase @Ds were 41|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S2HKT32DAJ542CJT3,SQ9876HAJ8D9CA986,SJT53HQ96D63CQ742,SAK4H754DKQT87CK5|sv|o|nt|brolucius: The second-seat intervention helped, because it let the opener know that partner's spades were five-carded.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes, 9 tricks in NT, 10 in a major, 11 in a minor - you must know surely|pg|| nt|fann4: POLAND is a 4 man team - we will see over the course of this match how they will handle the fatigue factor.|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Tezcan Sen from Türkiye|pg|| nt|tez: hi all|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: hi all welcome back|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|brolucius: Only 3 sets out of 8 have been played, so there will no excuse whatsoever for against-the-odds play 'because of the score'. Both sides must aim for tight, accurate bridge.|pg|| nt|fann4: So far they have done excellently.|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|bjacobs: I agree, but will the players?|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Wlc back|pg|| nt|brolucius: South cannot visualise a game opposite a passed partner (who could not even open 2@S).|pg|| mb|p|nt|bessi2: interesting 4s contract if they can escape the fatal heart lead|pg|| mb|3C|nt|brolucius: He might bid 1NT, but I cannot see anything else worthwhile. No, he has passed.|pg|| nt|fann4: Same contract in the OR (Open Room)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome back Catalina|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: North will be happy that his partner has not set him a more challenging target.|pg|| mb|p|nt|fann4: Hi again everyone.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|nt|brolucius: If declarer rises with the ace, he will suffer a heart ruff on the third round.|pg|| nt|bessi2: wow.... great lead by Martens|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|fann4: N has to insert the 9 to beat it|pg|| pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: is there a convincing argument for playing the 9?|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h3|nt|gosia: re|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|brolucius: Now there is no entry to the West hand, so there will be no heart ruff.|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|fann4: I think so.|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d4|pc|sQ|nt|brolucius: West might have held a singleton diamond, giving him an entry. That is why East switched to hearts before continuing diamonds.|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sA|nt|bessi2: well.. the dummy appears quite strong to me and where did he see the 4 tricks coming from ?|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|s8|nt|fann4: Playing the 9 may lose when declarer wins the 10 and pitches another @H on a top @D, but it looks like 2 @H tricks are probably required to have a chance to beat it.|pg|| nt|bessi2: hold on.. this is going down now isnt it ?|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|fann4: Yes, because put in the @D10 at trick 2.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: yes|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dQ|mc|9|nt|Vugraph7: The Rubin team will play 4 handed due to illness of rubin|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SQH96DAQT92CQT632,SJ972HKQ72DK85CK4,SAT86543HJTD4CJ75,SKHA8543DJ763CA98|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|mareczek: action of Jassem was highly questionable|pg|| mb|4D|nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@D GF|pg|| nt|mareczek: it is hard to see any advantage of nt contract vs. heart play|pg|| mb|p|nt|me argent: EW play weak NT|pg|| mb|4H|nt|figb_rama: intanto, dopo 16 board (su 120), nella semifinale dei trials americani, Nickell-Jacobs 13-64. |pg|| nt|me argent: AND MORGAN AINT SELLING|pg|| nt|me argent: harris wants to pass but his 5@Ss give him pause|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|figb_rama: Per Jacobs giocano Zia-Rosemberg Jacobs-Katz Weistein-Garner|pg|| nt|me argent: down 100 imps i think passing has alot going for it|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mareczek: here 4@h helepd a little to reach a good club game|pg|| nt|mareczek: helped|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|nt|chorush: On board 16. Garner-Weonstein reached 3 hearts which appears to be a make. If so, Jacobs will gain 5 imps on the first board of the new set|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|me argent: a great opportunity to create action|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|h6|nt|me argent: now @D|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|me argent: rgt|pg|| nt|me argent: with carefull defence can hold declare to 4 tricks|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Welcome to Ben Dickens from USA|pg|| nt|inquiry: hi|pg|| nt|me argent: harris made a really good decesion to pass 1ntx |pg|| nt|Walddk1: This match is a bit one-sided. I wonder if it will go the distance. What do you think guys?|pg|| nt|inquiry: I am late to this hand, but from here it looks fairly grim for the leaders... Harris will need more boards like this|pg|| nt|inquiry: on this hand|pg|| nt|Walddk1: This is segment 5 of 8|pg|| nt|inquiry: I think no one will want to withdraw with 30 boards left.... |pg|| nt|Walddk1: More than that Ben|pg|| nt|me argent: stansby martel are one of the few top pairs in america playing weak nt|pg|| nt|Walddk1: 8 segments|pg|| nt|inquiry: yes 120 in total |pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|inquiry: i think the last segment would not be played.... if the lead is large..... but surely will go seven|pg|| nt|me argent: a greater % of canadians do because of the kokish influence|pg|| nt|me argent: now declarer will play on @Hs|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|hJ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|mareczek: again a chance for Unia to recover some points|pg|| pc|s6|mc|9|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SQH96DAQT92CQT632,SJ972HKQ72DK85CK4,SAT86543HJTD4CJ75,SKHA8543DJ763CA98|sv|n|nt|Vugraph7: Jansma just told me|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: East has a 1NT rebid available, so he is happy to open 1@H. Playing a different range for the 1NT opener (and therefore the 1NT rebid), he would open 1NT instead.|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Martin Johnson from Canada|pg|| nt|fabsayc: good day to all|pg|| nt|tez: hi:)|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: South is delighted with this development|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, North is now reluctant to sell out to 2@H when it seems that the points are equally divided. He hopes that West's spades are 10-x-x-x.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: and so they are, but with two more to go with them|pg|| mb|p|nt|tez: poland well started|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 2nt invite :?|pg|| nt|bessi2: this should make|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|fabsayc: the blocked spades mean the defense has no easy route to defeating hand|pg|| pc|s2|nt|fann4: All the defence will get here is @SAK and a @H|pg|| nt|gosia: Jacoby - GF raise - 4 trumps|pg|| nt|bessi2: although with no enemy bidding perhaps he won't see the danger|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d7|nt|sunsamvar: interesting contract|pg|| nt|brolucius: The defenders should score two diamonds and one trick from each of the other suits.|pg|| pc|h6|nt|fabsayc: but the spade 7 may take a trick|pg|| nt|fann4: I don't think it's Jacoby. They play a different major suit raise structure.|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|dA|nt|brolucius: South might have false-carded the @H10, to encourage a continuation.|pg|| pc|d5|nt|brolucius: Oh, he did!|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|fann4: No, but declarer must ruff a @H or a @C 1st now.|pg|| nt|fann4: Else 2 more rounds of trumps will leave him a trick short.|pg|| nt|josj: hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Jos Jacobs from the Netherlands|pg|| nt|josj: goedenavond Jeff|pg|| nt|fann4: Goeie 'naand Jos:)|pg|| nt|bessi2: yeah.. needed x-ray vision to ruff the spade return with the ace of hearts|pg|| pc|dT|nt|bjacobs: Gee if only the @C6 and @C5 were swapped!|pg|| pc|dK|pc|hT|nt|bjacobs: Then declarer would be making this contract|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|brolucius: Now East has time to switch to diamonds.|pg|| nt|josj: looks nice this way :)|pg|| pc|s4|nt|gosia: that wd make the 4 @h bid nuts ? :)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c2|mc|9|nt|Vugraph7: Jansma "nasty players" lol|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S53HA9DQJ987CA972,ST9862HKJ7632D5C8,SAK7HT84D63CKQJT5,SQJ4HQ5DAKT42C643|sv|e|nt|bigtrain: 3@H at the other table ended -1 for a push|pg|| nt|me argent: was worried he had no entry|pg|| mb|1D|nt|me argent: good result NS|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|bigtrain: 2C is either blacks or majors|pg|| mb|2H!|an|=clubs|mb|4S|nt|me argent: dont like opening a weak 2 bid with a void|pg|| mb|p|nt|frajerzyna: witam|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: ciê¿ko cokolwiek komentowaæ po takim meczu jak pi³karzy |pg|| nt|frajerzyna: ale tak w sporcie bywa|pg|| nt|mareczek: natural play is to finesse @sJ|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: zdecydowanie lepiej graæ dwa kier|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|nt|mareczek: N could try garbage Stayman|pg|| mb|p|nt|me argent: partner can never evaluate his hand|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: i chyba da³o siê ten kontrakt osi¹gn¹æ|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|me argent: besides S has a 1 @H bid |pg|| nt|inquiry: favorable vul, but I still would not overcall 2@S I don't think with such a weak suit.. I have a lot to learn obviously.. |pg|| pc|s2|nt|mareczek: and after the worst response of 2@d bid 2@h showing weak hand with 4-4 in majors|pg|| pc|sK|nt|me argent: 2@S overcall does show values but the vul and fear of losing the @S suit drove martel into the auction|pg|| nt|mareczek: it is now very popular treatment in Poland|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|inquiry: their unfavorable preempts are very sound....|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|frajerzyna: mamy nawet wsparcie w obcym jêzyku|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|me argent: i really dislike 2@Hs on that south hand|pg|| nt|mareczek: Jassem made a nice trick|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| nt|me argent: but it will should turn out all rgt|pg|| nt|inquiry: multi 2@D opened at the other table, so essentially 2@H there also|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|c5|nt|inquiry: that last trick didn't look right|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|s9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|d8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S53HA9DQJ987CA972,ST9862HKJ7632D5C8,SAK7HT84D63CKQJT5,SQJ4HQ5DAKT42C643|sv|e|nt|brolucius: East has a count on declarer's heart and club tricks, so should not duck a spade. It would be a bad mistake.|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: right David|pg|| mb|1D|nt|tez: do you open with jassem hand..in this výuln at 3rd seat?|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: Lesniewski moving some around the room, said his cold!|pg|| nt|fann4: Definitely|pg|| mb|1H|nt|brolucius: Oh, I see, East did not know about the @H8. Well, that is true.|pg|| nt|gosia: 3h|pg|| mb|1S|nt|gosia: trnsfer to @c|pg|| mb|1N|nt|josj: they play 12-14?|pg|| nt|fabsayc: clear opener any seat|pg|| nt|fann4: I wouldn't open 1NT, on 11pts in 3rd seat.|pg|| nt|tez: 2@c=majors|pg|| nt|josj: hi Tezcan|pg|| nt|tez: hi jos:)|pg|| nt|tez: J|pg|| nt|fann4: Verhees's play was quite reasonable there. If S had only 4@D he might have been ok.|pg|| mb|2C|nt|josj: not easy for EW to get to 4@S now|pg|| nt|fann4: E will dbl if it goes pass, pass back to him.|pg|| nt|josj: 1NT is 12-14 non vul. |pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: This auction is not a good advertisement for 2/1 methods|pg|| nt|bjacobs: North is gestucken|pg|| nt|brolucius: Why is that? He can raise or cue-bid.|pg|| nt|fann4: Opening 1NT 3rd in hand on this sort of hand is waiting to be clobbered.|pg|| nt|gosia: Caitlin ? noalert on 1@S ?|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 3h works if partner has heart stop otherwise leaves you scrambling|pg|| nt|tez: 1@s=@c's transfer sistem|pg|| mb|2H|nt|josj: good bid by Marcin, removes any doubt|pg|| mb|d|mb|r|nt|tez: 4th trump very important in competition|pg|| nt|josj: slam try now but West will sign off|pg|| nt|bessi2: ns make 3n with the cards lying very friendly|pg|| nt|gosia: only 8 tricks in NT - but long heart entryless...|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: Hi all, srry for being ate|pg|| nt|bjacobs: The raise doesn't do justice to his hand, and he has nothing really good to cue bid|pg|| nt|gracelin: late|pg|| nt|bjacobs: (Even if it is a cue-bid)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: So an excellent slam whithers on the vine|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome back to Patrick Huang, the Taiwanese all time great|pg|| mb|3C|nt|gracelin: agree that 4H didn't do justice to his hand|pg|| nt|gracelin: Thanks Roland. Pleasure to be here|pg|| nt|bjacobs: But what is he to do? Maybe he should just Blackwood|pg|| nt|brolucius: North could have cue-bid 4@C. Why not? He had limited his hand by bidding 1NT at his first turn.|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Is 4@C a cue or natural?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|brolucius: Blackwood is too much, I would say.|pg|| nt|bessi2: a very sensible stop by jassem-martens.. excellent judgment|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|gracelin: I thk their agreement is both 4C/4D are cue. If not I wud at least bid 5H|pg|| mb|p|nt|gosia: must have been transfer to @c's|pg|| mb|5C|mb|d|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Well I stick with my first point: not a good advertisement for 2/1|pg|| nt|brolucius: It doesn't seem worthwhile to play four of a minor as natural when partner has shown a big two-suiter.|pg|| mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: now that Patrick is here it is time for my a'noon nap.|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: ok Sunil, but welcome back anytime|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: bye all. |pg|| nt|tez: he thought 3@c was forcing|pg|| nt|fann4: I'm not sure how about the nuances here. Would S have gone on with just 3 bare aces, for example.|pg|| nt|tez: after cue|pg|| nt|gosia: well he shd listen to his partner :)|pg|| nt|fann4: And surely N meant 3C as forcing|pg|| pc|d5|nt|bessi2: jassem-martens perhaps not on the same wavelength here as to whether 3clubs was forcing.|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|bessi2: verhees can safely return a low diamond now it seems|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|fann4: Big swing to RUB on bd 2, where W made a non forcing 2@C response to 1@D. Cannot understand why E passed with a singleton @C and 7 @D though.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d6|pg|| nt|bessi2: either that or a heart switch is needed to defeat 5cl|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|tez: @d was suit pereferance|pg|| nt|tez: @d2|pg|| nt|bessi2: as has been pointed out to me.. verhees should perhaps have returned a higer diamond SP.. did he really want a heart back ?|pg|| nt|gosia: he knows Martens has Ace from redouble|pg|| pc|d9|nt|gosia: 1st rd control|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cK|nt|bessi2: aha... thats true|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|cT|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAK73HQJT9DQ875C5,STHA743DAK963C943,SQJ94HK82DCAKQT82,S8652H65DJT42CJ76|sv|b|nt|me argent: GO HARRIS|pg|| mb|1D|mb|2C|nt|inquiry: harris is on a small run... three plus boards out of three and net gain of 15 imps.. .still a very long way to go... |pg|| mb|3D|nt|me argent: they are on a roll just how they needed to start|pg|| nt|inquiry: Ekelblad started with a bang yesterday in the first set|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|ccba: ÕâÂÖ½áÊøºóÊÇÍí²Íʱ¼ä|pg|| nt|ccba: µÚ6ÂÖÔÚ19£º00¿ªÊ¼|pg|| nt|ccba: µÚ6ÂÖ ×ª²¥¡¾Ì«²Ö½ð»Ô vs ÉϺ£Ê¥ÌÕɳ¡¿|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ndemirev: This must be a "good" opening hand by Meckwell standards |pg|| mb|p|nt|me argent: NS play forcing @C it seems|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: i think jeff would still show it as a minmum :-)|pg|| nt|inquiry: 6@D might have a play somedays, not on this layout however... 3NT is the spot|pg|| nt|inquiry: yes they play "inverted polished club"|pg|| nt|inquiry: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&event=USBC&pid=572|pg|| nt|inquiry: that link is a system summary|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: wygl¹da na 100 dla WE|pg|| mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|me argent: is that american to play that system?|pg|| nt|inquiry: the 3@D was bid by north|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|inquiry: the auction has to be undone|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|nt|me argent: 11 tricks ashould not present a problem|pg|| pc|hA|nt|inquiry: looks like 5@D, 2@C, 3@S, and 1@H for two overtricks.. np... |pg|| nt|frajerzyna: czy ktoœ moze podpowiedziec Jassemowi ¿e kibice nie wytrzymuj¹ z emocji>|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dA|nt|frajerzyna: ja w ka¿dym razie w przeciwienstwie do zawodników moge zrobic przerwe na papierosa|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: co niniejszym czyniê|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|nt|inquiry: those are not the running scores for the USBF event |pg|| pc|c7|pc|d8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|dQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s7|mc|12|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAK73HQJT9DQ875C5,STHA743DAK963C943,SQJ94HK82DCAKQT82,S8652H65DJT42CJ76|sv|b|nt|brolucius: After 1@S - 2@D - 2@H, North has much the same problem.|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Hope that you have an interesting session|pg|| nt|gracelin: but after he raises to 3H, South knows what to do|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Not at all, he can bid 3@H if forcing, or 4@H, and South knows the nature of his hand|pg|| nt|brolucius: Bye, Sunil.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Here, he could have xx-Kxxx-Kxxx-xxx|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: Jassem takes some time in putting the new board, so Martnes says NEXT pls|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|nt|tez: Jasem was playing to shuffle cards:)|pg|| nt|fann4: Bd 18 identical play. So no swings on the 1st 2 boards.|pg|| mb|2D|nt|gracelin: 6S makes on the SQ finesse|pg|| nt|Walddk3: NS playing two different systems, depending on vulnerability|pg|| nt|Walddk3: I have found both for you. Please keep them|pg|| nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/ynk8p2 Martens-Jassem NV|pg|| nt|fann4: Apparently it was South who opened 1@D on bd 2 in the OR, which explains the bidding.|pg|| nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/2cvxfj Martens-Jassem VUL|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|fann4: Though I'd expect to see RUB gain on bd 19.|pg|| nt|bessi2: interesting north hand over 1d opener.. do you prefer a 2cl overcall followed by a dbl or an immediate dbl as jassem |pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: and the nice black suit breaks|pg|| mb|p|nt|tez: now Weichsel knows pd has bad hand..because he has 4 card trump|pg|| nt|tez: @s|pg|| nt|fann4: Most experts would overcall on the 4 card @S here, but it's not going to turn out well.|pg|| nt|josj: good lead, a trump|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 4@D choose a major partner, 6@S seems to fail with suit 4-1|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|fann4: EW are in 4@S doubled on bd 19. |pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|brolucius: That's right. Not a good slam, and unlikely they will bid it.|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|nt|brolucius: East has the chance to cue-bid now, on his way to 4@S.|pg|| pc|h9|nt|bessi2: i think 6s can make.. ruff the diamond lead and play a low heart to q.. |pg|| nt|fann4: Close between a t/o dbl or @C first. I prefer dbl - pard may pass 2@C with @SKxxxx or something, and we could miss a game.|pg|| nt|bessi2: if ducked then u can draw trumps and got 5 trumps.. 6clubs and 1 heart|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|gracelin: even if they try, they will find the trump Q is missing. Deppo is a more discipline eam than Nan Yuan|pg|| nt|fabsayc: yes but double dummy line|pg|| nt|fann4: I think 4@S is the underbid of the year. |pg|| pc|hT|nt|gracelin: expect 12 tricks here|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|bessi2: indeed it is.. i guess declarer would have tried qj of spades first but can then play a heart still makes|pg|| pc|dA|nt|tez: another trump..dummy dead|pg|| nt|josj: R.I.P.|pg|| nt|josj: W does not know that N overcalled on 4-crd only|pg|| nt|tez: Lesniewski hopes pd has 1 trump|pg|| nt|fabsayc: weischsel may eventually run out of exit cards however|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| nt|tez: best defense..duck @d..|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Margie Gwozdzinsky from USA|pg|| pc|s5|nt|gracelin: declarer is not happy to see SQ falling|pg|| pc|sK|nt|gracelin: brb|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|c5|nt|gosia: Hi all :)|pg|| nt|tez: take next dia, switch @h. pard plays last trump and kills dummy|pg|| nt|tez: hi:)|pg|| nt|granguru: @H3 to beat by 2|pg|| nt|fann4: There seems to be so much happening in this match, in both rooms, also from the 1st set, that it's hard to keep up with things.|pg|| pc|c3|nt|gosia: I See the Poles had an accident on Bd 2 - undisciplined pass of a 2/1 in the other room|pg|| nt|fabsayc: apparently the auction on the movie is wrong|pg|| nt|gosia: Kibbitzers all :) tell me bidding is wrong in Movie|pg|| nt|tez: right now all ways down 2|pg|| nt|gosia: I was surprised - also surprised Skrzypczek passed in 1st position :)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|gosia: those types of hands need to get into auction early|pg|| nt|fann4: Agreed, and he paid for it.|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|nt|gosia: Sorry to take us back, but just got here, and was reviewing what I had missed|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d2|pc|hJ|nt|gosia: Also at this table we will have a lot of time for diversion :)|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|c8|mc|12|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAJT7HK5DAQ62CK92,S62HT93DKT4CJT765,SK954HAQ862D5CQ83,SQ83HJ74DJ9873CA4|sv|n|nt|me argent: will see how good NS slam bidding is|pg|| mb|1H|nt|inquiry: you may see a 2@C opening here|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: not part of normal polish|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|inquiry: their 2@C and 2@D opening bids are STRONG|pg|| nt|inquiry: 2@D being the stronger I believe|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|me argent: 6@Hs or even7 on a finess is even better 4 the trailing team a good opportunity|pg|| mb|2N|nt|inquiry: MArtin and Jacob devised this system themselves.... |pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1NT shows 18-19 here|pg|| nt|inquiry: 4@C is by North.... |pg|| nt|me argent: i hope so|pg|| nt|inquiry: yes|pg|| mb|4D!|mb|p|nt|inquiry: 2@C opening shows about 18 to 21 HCP, with at least: (a) a 5+ card major or, (b) a 6+ card minor and shortness somewhere. Rarely it’s stronger (10+ tricks in your own hand, at ...|pg|| nt|inquiry: least 5-5 in s plus a Major). Never 4-4-3-2 or 4-3-3-3 (we’d open 1 with that) |pg|| mb|4H!|nt|bigtrain: X = negative (4@S)|pg|| nt|me argent: on a @S lead this is a 5 or 7 hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|me argent: apparently ever bid has been alerted|pg|| nt|inquiry: 5-5 in @Ds and major that should have been....|pg|| nt|me argent: every|pg|| mb|4S|nt|me argent: can they? will they bid7?|pg|| nt|inquiry: would you bid the grand here trailing by so many? When behind, these opportunities are golden... you just wish you were vul!!!!|pg|| nt|me argent: 7 is excellent|pg|| nt|me argent: on the same finess that 6 is on|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|me argent: that is in @Hs only|pg|| nt|inquiry: I am uncertain of 4@S.. maybe a denial cue-bid? I would guess 4@C showed @Hs....|pg|| nt|me argent: 6nt is strictly on a finess|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|nt|inquiry: This doesn't seem right... 5@H must be forcing... can't ask for ACES and then stop.. .maybe 4@S was kickback.....|pg|| pc|cA|nt|frajerzyna: DW sec pik zapewnia realizacjê kontraktu|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|inquiry: This is a problem.. .the summary sheet isn't very complete.. where is full disclosure program when you need it|pg|| nt|me argent: it doesnt matter if we know but it does matter that NS know|pg|| nt|inquiry: well 5@H has to be forcing.. that much is clear|pg|| nt|me argent: a lost opportunity 4 NS|pg|| nt|inquiry: I guess 4@S was kickback for @hs, 4NT was 5 keycards, and 5@D was a @D asking bid|pg|| nt|inquiry: 4NT 4 keycards|pg|| nt|inquiry: 5@H was no king of @Ds|pg|| nt|inquiry: that would make sense and explain 4@S bid|pg|| pc|c5|nt|inquiry: all that is based on 4@C showing @Hs... of course.... the 2@C bid if not balanced includes a long major as a possibility|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sK|mc|11|nt|me argent: 4@CS showed solid @Hs and 4@Ss ace asking 4nt 0 or 3 aces|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SAJT7HK5DAQ62CK92,S62HT93DKT4CJT765,SK954HAQ862D5CQ83,SQ83HJ74DJ9873CA4|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: took a while to reach the inevitable :)|pg|| nt|fann4: Here is a big chance for POL to pick up imps. In the OR, Jansma/Verhees, with a lot of artificial machinery, had an accident and stopped in 4@S.|pg|| mb|1H|nt|tez: 7@s coming:)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: The Dutch had a serious RKC misunderstanding here and stopped in game where grand slam better than 90%|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|fann4: Think 4@Sx on bd 19 in the OR went 2 down.|pg|| mb|p|nt|fann4: 12 imps if they bid 6@S, and 17 imps if they reach the grand.|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Well, we have had our excitement on some of the previous board (possible slams). Now we must sit and watch 1NT. Oh, South has raised.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: and North is thinking!|pg|| nt|tez: 3@s or 4@h?|pg|| mb|3D|nt|bessi2: indeed.. had 4 tricks on the defense with the ace of trumps still to come |pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Both the black tens look useful, it is true.|pg|| nt|gosia: on bd 19 Gierulski bid Michaels - which I don't like with that suit discrepancy|pg|| nt|fann4: So 12 imps to RUB, not 6.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this hand reminds me of two slams helgemo and helness bid yesterday|pg|| nt|tez: 2nt forcing relay..balanced|pg|| nt|bessi2: another routine game for jassem-martens|pg|| mb|3H|nt|bjacobs: Yes, it's not that big an overbid|pg|| nt|bjacobs: a "little" overbid|pg|| nt|brolucius: Having thought, he has passed (of course). He barely had an opening bid in the first place.|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: this will end happily, via the diamond finesse|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i like the splinter, simplifies most auctions|pg|| nt|fann4: Key Card will find the @CK, but is that enough?|pg|| nt|tez: 5@s 5nt 6@c 7@s|pg|| nt|josj: my idea :)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: not a terrifying slam?|pg|| nt|bessi2: hehe.. don't think so.. at most a scary 5s making|pg|| nt|fann4: I think the late Sonny Moyse once said in a similar situation '10xxxx and KJxxxx is not 2 suits. It is one suit and one abomination'.|pg|| mb|3S|nt|gosia: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|josj: this should also work|pg|| nt|Walddk3: 6@C asking for club king|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Since Martens can't be short in clubs|pg|| nt|Walddk3: He already showed shortage in hearts|pg|| nt|fann4: Yes, the @CK is sufficient, with at least 3 trumps and short @H.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: cant count 13 tricks for sure without club jack as well|pg|| nt|fann4: This must be a variation of KC I don't know. Usually, 5NT asks for specific Kings, and suits at the 6 level are for 3rd rd control.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this is the second time we seem to be seeing singleton showing over relays|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: well done|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|nt|fann4: POL ahead 17-12 now|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 6@C says that is side suit needing substantial help, kantar wrote about that in original series on KCB|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: Martens is putting the dummy meanwhile in the other side of the screen|pg|| nt|tez: if martens without j ot @c..but has the possibility to become master of his pard's @d or a @c ruff to table if Martens has 4cm trumps|pg|| nt|fann4: Yes, many chances for 13 tricks even without the @CJ.|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: east asking some questions|pg|| nt|gosia: Peter is trying not to lead a trump - may need to take away option in Diamonds at trick 1|pg|| mb|5S|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: Difficult lead for East, a spectator points out. Indeed it is, but as it is here, he can lead his right shoe, doesn't matter|pg|| mb|p|nt|gosia: Yesterday Hellness overcalled 1@s with KJ10xx,KJ10xx - but later went for 1100 when bid too much|pg|| mb|p|nt|gosia: he heard me :)|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|gosia: I hate the 2 suited bids,gives so much info to declearer if defending|pg|| nt|fann4: Hellness overcalled 1@S and then backed in later with 4@H, as opposed to showing a 2 suiter immediately (if it was available).|pg|| nt|gosia: Helgemo had the wrong dummy :)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: you forgot to mention the good slam bid at other table failed on 4-1 trump break|pg|| nt|gosia: that's true |pg|| pc|c3|nt|fann4: With @H 3-3 declarer can afford to play any @C from dummy at trick 1.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|fann4: E has to take this trick to hold declarer to 12 tricks.|pg|| pc|c4|nt|gosia: should play him for club 10 , unlike an anonymous friend who in a high stakes rubber pridge game had KQxxx vs A9x in 7NT - got J lead and did not finesse|pg|| nt|fabsayc: verhess needs to play ace and another club to protect spade queen|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d3|nt|tez: In our village mostly received lead is a trump v GrandSlam|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c7|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| nt|brolucius: If West did hold the @DK (giving the defenders three spades and a spade), he would have had to do something more dynamic at Trick 1, to set up two heart tricks for the defence.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: very happily - the defence have thrown an overtrick|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|nt|brolucius: ...and a diamond...|pg|| nt|bjacobs: or two|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| mc|11|nt|fabsayc: i think if in six would have made it|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SQT52HQ9DA4CJT654,SK863HAT3D82CA732,SAHKJ8742DKQJ93CQ,SJ974H65DT765CK98|sv|e|mb|p|nt|gregpog: witam|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 11+ BAL, @H stopped|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: helo³|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|inquiry: a quiet 2@H here... this will be touch and go... the defense seems to be on the correct track.... |pg|| nt|inquiry: So I will predict down one... as there are a lot of spades to be won by EW here.... |pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h2|nt|inquiry: Ekeblad will break through for their first positive score of the set, as 2@Dx made at the other table.. question is will it be 2 imps or 5 imps|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: tu krótka gra bêdzie|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: w zasadzie juz moglaby sie zakonczyc|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|landen: Zia's tricky lead probably would have paid off if Michael hadn't gone up|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|inquiry: If chip wins this one, have to be careful not to play 2nd round of clubs until after the three spades are cashed.... |pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d8|nt|inquiry: now, nothing helps.. this is down one....|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SQT52HQ9DA4CJT654,SK863HAT3D82CA732,SAHKJ8742DKQJ93CQ,SJ974H65DT765CK98|sv|e|nt|vugraph bo: north discard a heart actually, so 9 tricks|pg|| nt|brolucius: Must be an optical illusion, but East seems to have been the dealer rather often.|pg|| nt|gosia: :)|pg|| nt|josj: they have at least four bridge players up there?|pg|| nt|josj: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|gosia: Makes it automatic to bid 7 missing the queen :)|pg|| nt|josj: right!|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|brolucius: Now East will have visions of a high heart contract.|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 2@S is a dubious bid|pg|| nt|bjacobs: MUCH prefer 3@S|pg|| nt|brolucius: North might perhaps have bid 3@S at his first turn, rather than think now.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Now he's uncomfortable|pg|| nt|brolucius: Snap, Bill!|pg|| nt|gracelin: North now regrets his early 2S raise|pg|| nt|bjacobs: double snap|pg|| nt|fabsayc: too good for 2nt? or wrong shape?|pg|| mb|3D|nt|brolucius: With four-card support (and expecting five spades opposite), it is normal to jump-raise. With nine trumps, you can compete to the nine-trick level.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|fann4: This can go down on a @D lead.|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: this is a possible phantom sacrifice|pg|| nt|fann4: Very good. The @S10 switch will seal declarer's fate.|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch all 3 vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|bjacobs: East is searching for @DJ in 4@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|fann4: Prefer bidding 1@H then jumping in @D.|pg|| pc|c8|nt|gosia: me too|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|nt|gracelin: may o only -1 now|pg|| nt|brolucius: Now king of clubs (not the ace).|pg|| nt|gracelin: East has better ducked the HJ if they play J denies|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|gosia: need to hear what's going on|pg|| nt|gosia: here saw pard had some values so could jump around|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|josj: so a chance missed by EW here...|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|nt|brolucius: Declarer hopes for two diamond ruffs in dummy, so he is setting up that possibility rather than drawing trumps. |pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|nt|gracelin: not sure whether West's S8 will become a trick in the end|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: verhees played a spade in this trick|pg|| nt|gosia: he did claim - or is snoozing ?|pg|| mc|11|nt|tez: for trump lead to GS..i cannot say that i admit to ours. prefer to think throughout|pg|| nt|fann4: Lost connection. Was saying of course @S switch impossible to find. In the OR West overcalled in @S|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this was a good hand for attitude leads, west starting a high diamond spot|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQJHAQT2DJ9763CT5,SK2HJ4DT85CAK7632,ST975HK53DAQCQJ94,SA8643H9876DK42C8|sv|b|mb|p|nt|picix: spoko|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|landen: Zia must think he's back at the rubber bridge table, defending every hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|maticm4: czeœæ Piotrek, witam wszystkich:)|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: w 5 Grzesiek Narkiewicz gra³ 5 karo|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: i trafi³ trefla|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: wiêc remis chocia¿ ¿adna z par nie znalaz³a kontraktu 4 pik|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ccba: ´ó¼ÒºÃ|pg|| nt|ccba: ÏÖÔÚÊÇÑ­»·ÈüµÄµÚ5ÂÖ|pg|| nt|inquiry: ended up being 7 imps.... my math skills are poor.... |pg|| nt|maticm4: EKO_AL coraz bardziej traci impy zdobyte w pierwszych dwóch segmentach|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2H shows 5-5+, fairly widr range|pg|| mb|p|nt|ccba: ±ÈÈüÔÚÌ«²Ö¾ÙÐÐ|pg|| mb|p|nt|landen: 4@h makes E-W, so this is a cheap save|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|nt|ccba: Ê×½ìÌ«²Öº£Ï¿Á½°¶ÇÅÅÆÑûÇëÈü|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ccba: 16¶Ó²ÎÈü|pg|| nt|ccba: 10¶ÓÀ´×Ǫ̂Í壬6¶ÓÀ´×Ô´ó½|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|ccba: ÿÂÖ´ò10¸±ÅÆ|pg|| nt|ccba: http://www.ccba.org.cn/action/game.php?id=27&action=g_result|pg|| nt|inquiry: 1@C followed by 1NT is too strong for 1NT opener (14+-17), |pg|| pc|s5|nt|frajerzyna: vugraph mo¿esz wyjaœniæ wynik?|pg|| pc|s6|nt|inquiry: 2@C was puppet stayman if I remember correctly from yesterday... |pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ccba: ÏÖÔÚ´ó¼Ò¿´µ½µÄÊÇ2Ö§À´×Ǫ̂ÍåµÄ¶ÓÎéÔÚ±ÈÈü|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: wydaje mi siê ¿e w rozdaniu 5 powinien byæ remis|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|ccba: ÇÅÒÕÌÃ¶Ó vs ¾Å¾ÅA¶Ó|pg|| pc|h4|nt|maticm4: jest remis? 5 karo swoje 3 nt swoje|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: w pogl¹dzie Narkiewicz zagra³ trefla do króla wiêc powinno byæ 5@D swoje|pg|| nt|maticm4: ale jest chyba 5 karo swoje|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| nt|kit: hi all|pg|| pc|d3|nt|inquiry: This is a good lead.. the danger is 1@S, 2@H and 1@D loser... but there are plenty of chances as Chip is likely to be endplayed... |pg|| nt|frajerzyna: ³atwiej gra³oby siê 2 karo|pg|| nt|maticm4: tak, zdecydowanie|pg|| nt|maticm4: jednak 2 pik te¿ jest szansowne|pg|| pc|d8|nt|bigtrain: hey kit|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: kier daje obronie szansê na obk³adkê|pg|| nt|picix: no có¿... Napewno zyskowne|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: Jassem widaæ czyta "wist rozmowa ...."|pg|| nt|maticm4: hehe:)|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: wie ¿e autor œledzi poczynania|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|landen: hi kit, tough loss last night|pg|| nt|kit: ty|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|d2|pc|cT|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: na drugim stole EW graj¹ 3 trefle|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|inquiry: no has to pin the @H9.... tough....|pg|| nt|inquiry: now|pg|| nt|maticm4: przekazuj¹c pierwsze trzy segmenty bardzo podoba³a mi siê gra Micha³a Kwietnia|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: rozdanie powinno byc wiec remisowe|pg|| nt|maticm4: spokojna, zawsze przemyœlana|pg|| nt|maticm4: nigdy siê nie uniós³:) i zawsze z uœmiechem na twarzy|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sT|nt|inquiry: trying for a huge swing, you might go for that, but playing for A9 doubleton seems a huge stretch..... |pg|| pc|sA|nt|frajerzyna: bedzie niestety podwojny zapis dla EKO|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: Buras przegra 3 trefle a Kwiecisty 2 pik |pg|| pc|sJ|mc|6|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQJHAQT2DJ9763CT5,SK2HJ4DT85CAK7632,ST975HK53DAQCQJ94,SA8643H9876DK42C8|sv|b|nt|brolucius: It just shows that you cannot be precise in these heart-spade competitive auctions. If North had bid the 3@S, that we all preferred, East would have bid 4@H and it is not at all ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: obvious who (if anyone) would then contest to 4@S. I expect both North and South would then pass. Still, 4@S might have been taken for 300 and 4@H is on a guess.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: But taking it further, the 3@S preempt would have probably guided declarer correctly in 4@H|pg|| nt|bjacobs: As it has turned out, North "unilateralized" rather well|pg|| nt|gosia: Because it was wrong :) ?|pg|| nt|gosia: with Rubin - Ekeblad out , will be endurance contest - as both playing 4 handed now|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: and neither North or south will take the push to 4S|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 2@D is hard to understand.|pg|| nt|gracelin: that D suit is not an intemediate jump overcall for me |pg|| mb|2N|nt|gosia: Ig high diamond led , Peter may not get up the King |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: weird indeed\|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: or he pulled the wrong card, 2D instead of 1D|pg|| nt|brolucius: Nothing like any sort of 2@D overcall. 1@D was obvious.|pg|| pc|s9|nt|gosia: if|pg|| nt|fann4: A Precision type 2@C opening.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|nt|brolucius: Whatever strength a jump to 2@D shows, in your system, it should be made on a good suit.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Your playing strength in diamonds should compare favourable to your defence. Here West has low playing strength and huge defence.|pg|| nt|gracelin: maybe he saw a 1S opening by south, but even though 2D is not my cup of tea|pg|| nt|josj: yes it is, but W found only lead to give def. a chance at all :( bridge remains a beautiful game, exactly for this reason|pg|| nt|fann4: Why couldn't S have had a 5 card @S suit? It's not at all clear.|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|josj: true too...|pg|| pc|c8|nt|wygbe1: all vul|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|fabsayc: 2nt 6 clubs minimum, no major, probably balanced also|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|fann4: Vul, this is going to cost EW here|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|nt|gosia: Ronnie's not well - we don't know what the problem|pg|| pc|s4|nt|bessi2: this will be -2 it seems|pg|| nt|fann4: That @S discard from dummy can lead to 4 down now.|pg|| nt|bessi2: ahhhhh sry... i though the contract was 3clubs hehe|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|nt|gosia: Unusual for Peter to play quickly :), but I also only get upset if my partner makes a mistake too quickly|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|fabsayc: diamond lead was a double sucess, not sure the reasoning however|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|gracelin: now everybody knows West was bidding 2D on 3A and a King and a Axxxx suit|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|bessi2: going for a cool -400 now it seems|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|gracelin: in fact the hand belngs to NS for 3NT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|d6|nt|fann4: Can't see how E can be criticised for returning a @D. For all he knew, partner could have had 5 of them.|pg|| nt|tez: how do you proceed to 2 @h? when pard overcalled with spades..may pass|pg|| mc|4|nt|Vugraph7: good!!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: one of the big flaws in precision, verhees had to guess whether to pass or bid|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: sorry misck|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2S9H743DT763CKJ872,SK8653HAJT2DJ9C43,SJ742HK86D42CQT95,SAQTHQ95DAKQ85CA6|sv|o|nt|ccba: ̨±±¾Å¾Å¶ÓµÄ³ÉÔ±¶àÊýËêÊý¶¼½Ï´ó|pg|| nt|inquiry: well deserved 10 imps|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|me argent: not to mention much needed|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: szkoda|pg|| nt|picix: to 11 impów praktycznie pogrzeba³o do koñca Uniê|pg|| mb|1C|nt|inquiry: they need ten more of those... that will be tough to find... that many.....|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Meckstroth might open any number of hearts, including none|pg|| nt|me argent: east has a good hand for a fitshowing jump in @Ss if they play that very usefull treatment|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: z dwóch powodów|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ccba: ¿ªÊÒÈü³¡ÄÚÓжÓÔ±·¢¼±²¡|pg|| nt|me argent: instead like most americans they play splinter bids in this situation|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|frajerzyna: z mojej osobistej sympatii do ekipy Unii|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: i emocji w meczu|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: przy aktualnym wyniku ostatniego segmentu nie bedzie|pg|| nt|picix: No... Emocje to faktycznie RACZEJ siê skoñczy³y...|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: a chyba wszyscy chcemy pokibicowaŸæ|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Not clear what he should lead|pg|| nt|kit: Hearts seem hopeless, but Zia implied spades|pg|| nt|kit: I think he made a sensible choice|pg|| nt|bigtrain: the Qlead here shows less than a 4-card suit|pg|| nt|kit: Rosenberg can come to 5 diamonds 1 club, 1 heart, and 2 spades, but he has to get the diamonds right and otherwise be careful|pg|| nt|kit: Not clear whether Rosenberg should win the first trick or not, and if he does win it, where?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: eric doesn't know if he lead from KQx or QJx|pg|| nt|me argent: will west chance 5@Hs?|pg|| nt|inquiry: 5@C is a god save against 4@H... how about 5@H? lose two top tricks, but @S come home to prevent teh @D loser except on a @D lead.....at trick one... |pg|| nt|inquiry: good|pg|| nt|me argent: 5@Cs goes down 2|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ccba: ÕýÔÚ½ô¼±´¦ÖÃ|pg|| nt|inquiry: looks like 4 more imps for TEAM HARRIS|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|me argent: this looks like a 4 imp pickup for harris team|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|kit: If Rodwell continues spades, I think Rosenberg has to win and lead a diamond|pg|| nt|inquiry: just the four obvious losers....|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|inquiry: and plenty of time to find the spade switch... |pg|| mb|3S|nt|kit: to the jack, then knock out the ace of hearts|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4N|nt|kit: otherwise his entries are difficult, and he may get shut out of one of his winners|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|kit: uh oh|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|inquiry: to quote someone NEXT|pg|| nt|me argent: NEXT|pg|| nt|me argent: its seems i always a shade 2 slow|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|kit: sorry, Rosenberg has another club -- forgot that|pg|| nt|kit: so there is no problem|pg|| nt|landen: operator error, no doubt|pg|| nt|bigtrain: if he really cashed a @D there was|pg|| nt|poohbear: He led the King of Hearts at that point|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|inquiry: but you get all the credit for the trademarked use of the word NEXT in capital letters|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|nt|me argent: TY|pg|| nt|me argent: NEXT|pg|| nt|me argent: please|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c2|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|c4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cT|mc|11|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2S9H743DT763CKJ872,SK8653HAJT2DJ9C43,SJ742HK86D42CQT95,SAQTHQ95DAKQ85CA6|sv|o|nt|brolucius: 1@D - 5@D will make it difficult for South.|pg|| nt|gracelin: an excellent 6D for EW but will be beaten with Qxx trumps with North|pg|| nt|fann4: Not unreasonable to try to improve the contract. Though 2NT or 3@C are worse.|pg|| nt|gosia: don't understand 2nt rebid - either the 6th club or 4 cd major|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: they where going to play board 22 again lol|pg|| nt|bessi2: perhaps verhees should have retreated to 3clubs... such a terrible dummy in 2n|pg|| nt|fann4: 2NT, I think, shows a semi balanced minimum.|pg|| nt|gosia: Bates Yesterday showed side 4cd @d suit with 6/4 - not with great success|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: is was turned around though, good i told them lol|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|tez: i correct..passable?|pg|| mb|3C|an|Gf relay|nt|gracelin: If East jumps to 5D, guess South will bid 5S and get doubled|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Good morning to Peter Crouch from England|pg|| nt|pitiful: gm|pg|| nt|gracelin: Morning Peter|pg|| nt|bjacobs: it's an ok save as it turns out|pg|| nt|brolucius: Even though E-W might have a diamond slam on, from East's point of view, it seems right to pre-empt to make life difficult for N-S.|pg|| nt|pitiful: if west passes east might bid 6@c|pg|| nt|brolucius: Surely West will double.|pg|| nt|brolucius: He will not expect East to hold anything close to that needed for a slam.|pg|| mb|3H|an|5!s 4!h 22|nt|pitiful: i think west has close decision, east might bid bid 5@d with QJxxxx instead of AKxxxx @c|pg|| nt|gracelin: what is North thinking ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: You were right. (But I do not agree with West's pass). |pg|| mb|3S|nt|gosia: I wasn't criticizing Peter, whom I have admired for 40 years - making a point against fast play|pg|| nt|fann4: I didn't say you were:)|pg|| nt|fann4: I'm talking in general about the decision to return a @D, as opposed to the 'crystal ball' switch of a @S|pg|| nt|fann4: Looks live reverse Flannery, but maybe just shows the majors.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|bessi2: 2h shows a preemptive hand with both majors i assume|pg|| mb|p|nt|pitiful: east did very well|pg|| nt|vugraph bo: East was thinking, sorry|pg|| nt|fann4: More crossed wires.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 2@C showed more in polish club than standard, but martens should have cued 2d if bidding in normal rules|pg|| nt|fann4: The link for the BBO TV, to get the other room simultaneously is: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ |pg|| nt|Walddk3: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|fabsayc: well clearly a misunderstanding, seems Jassem could have bid just 3@H|pg|| nt|gosia: 2 @h 8-11 5/4 majors - 3 @c asks|pg|| nt|fabsayc: explain this auction, what is 3c|pg|| mb|4C|nt|brolucius: With two spade tricks, I cannot understand West's reluctance to double. He has nothing to spare in a constructive sense.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: It seems to me that West's @S10 make this a pretty clear double|pg|| nt|fann4: And the 3@H bid shows?|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: Lots of laughing here, since martens was their trainer|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|fann4: Why did S pass 1@D to begin with? Was he planning to sit 1@D doubled?|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: and he teached them this secuence|pg|| mb|p|nt|gosia: Vuegraph is this auction correct ?|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: yes it is|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: Weichsel asking about all the bidding|pg|| nt|fabsayc: jassem thinks partner has very weak hand with long hearts i suppose, seems however improbable at best|pg|| nt|fann4: South's original pass created the problem imho (in my humble opinion)|pg|| mb|4N|nt|gosia: Martens first pass surprising ? no neg X, no 1 NT ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: No doubt it matches his 2@D jump overcall nicely.|pg|| nt|tez: after this board match will go on to a tie|pg|| mb|5N|nt|gosia: Peters x will work well here|pg|| mb|p|nt|fann4: I'm told 3@H showed 5@S, and 3NT was a serious slam try.|pg|| mb|6S|nt|tez: sry..with E Doubled|pg|| nt|gosia: slam down|pg|| mb|p|nt|fann4: A well judged dbl by Weichsel. |pg|| nt|fann4: We will have a leader after this board - by 1 imp|pg|| nt|fann4: Maybe more, depending on the line of play.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i think he can get out for down 1|pg|| nt|gosia: not likely|pg|| nt|fann4: He can, but he has to reject the @S finesse, I think.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|gosia: especially on club lead|pg|| pc|d7|nt|fabsayc: by ducking when heart jack played|pg|| nt|fann4: ONLY on a @C lead.|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s3|nt|tez: 12 Imps if down 2 . with 2 Imps Rubin will be ahead|pg|| pc|s2|nt|fann4: I meant a new leader.|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| nt|gracelin: On the hand North raise to 2S first then sacrifice in 4S for -1, close room EW went down in 4H by misguessing DJ|pg|| nt|bessi2: very unlucky for jansma-verhees as 6s is an excellent slam |pg|| nt|gosia: rates to be a push|pg|| nt|olien: probably eyeing that 9 with suspicion, but unlikely to finesse|pg|| nt|fann4: This will make, so long as declarer takes the @H finesse now.|pg|| pc|h9|nt|gosia: Yes, must duck heart jack|pg|| pc|h3|nt|pitiful: i think west might double but it is not clear, why could the AK@c and QJ@c be swapped in north and east and 5@s is cold?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|fann4: The dbl has told declarer the @S finesse won't work - so he is wisely settling for 1 down.|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|fabsayc: and never leads any more trumps jeff?|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SA98HQJT4D76432C8,SKJ54HA652DJ5CJ76,SQ62HDAKTCAKT9432,ST73HK9873DQ98CQ5|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|inquiry: harris is up 29 to 7 in this set....|pg|| mb|1H|nt|landen: not nearly as entertaining as the previous set of wild boards|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Interesting that Rosenberg wouldn't bid 2@S here|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|picix: i kolejny podwójny zapis dla eko|pg|| mb|2N|nt|kit: Seems like he might want a spade lead vs. 3NT if Meckstroth bids that|pg|| nt|me argent: that double should cause NS some problems|pg|| nt|me argent: if martel passes|pg|| nt|picix: có¿.. Ten mecz i tak jest bardziej "wyrównany" |pg|| nt|picix: ni¿ mecz sygnity-spójnia|pg|| nt|picix: tam mamy aktuialnie wynik 209-77|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: and the 2@S bid is pretty much on the house|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|me argent: he didnt and it wont|pg|| mb|p|nt|ccba: ÏÖÔÚ²»ÊǾöÈü,ÊǵÚ1Ñ­»·µÄ×îºóÒ»³¡±ÈÈü|pg|| nt|ccba: Ã÷Ì쿪ʼµÚ2Ñ­»·Èü|pg|| nt|ccba: ±ÈÈüµ½30ºÅ½áÊø|pg|| nt|inquiry: I would lead the @CJ... 1@D doesn't promise @Ds... |pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|inquiry: so NS system marks south with 11 to 13 balanced, when and north with 3-3 or shorter in the majors... so south with 4@S.... not sure if all that helps... but when the @SA is ...|pg|| nt|inquiry: flushed.. the hand becomes very double dummy..so I predict an overtrick|pg|| pc|s4|nt|me argent: declarer has lots of options|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mittmouse: best contract|pg|| pc|s3|nt|kit: Zia is pretty much end-played here|pg|| nt|kit: he must be wondering where the spades are|pg|| nt|me argent: some of which arent successfull|pg|| nt|me argent: @S shift?|pg|| nt|picix: chocia¿ jeden imp...|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c8|nt|inquiry: nothing looks really useful to me from south... |pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|inquiry: can't ruff all those @Ds.. any thing other than Queen?|pg|| nt|me argent: looks convenient to finess|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|me argent: stansby has other ideas|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|nt|inquiry: now he knows where the @DK and @HK are....|pg|| nt|me argent: sorry martel|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|mc|9|nt|me argent: @S?|pg|| nt|inquiry: don't think he can go wrong here... so just making... for 4imps.. ruff @S, play @H ace, ruff @D, @C8.....|pg|| nt|me argent: well played|pg|| pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SA98HQJT4D76432C8,SKJ54HA652DJ5CJ76,SQ62HDAKTCAKT9432,ST73HK9873DQ98CQ5|sv|e|nt|brolucius: You remember the possible 6@H hand? In the close room the bidding started in exactly the same way: 1@S - 1NT - 3@H. Now North did bid our recommended 4@C (cue-bid) and the slam was ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: bid and made.|pg|| nt|fann4: Sorry, I meant it can make, but in practise it won't|pg|| mb|1C|nt|gracelin: no, west wins and cash DK, dummy's DQ is estabished but declarer's 5th is dead, East will get a club tricks at the end|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: East is not so happy|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: srry, above is in response to many thot declarer can savea trick by not playing the 4th H but give West the trump|pg|| nt|pitiful: I think that from west's perspective 5@s rates to go down 1 most of the time, might make occassionally when partner has no defence and might go down 2 whan partner has a lot of ...|pg|| nt|pitiful: defence, it might tip declarer off to play for 4-1 trumps on the rare occassion when Hx comes down in dummy|pg|| mb|1H|nt|gosia: I can't imagine Martens wanted to penalize 1 @d|pg|| mb|p|nt|fann4: A lot of imps have been lost on partnership misunderstandings.|pg|| mb|2C|nt|brolucius: South had a wide choice of responses here. A splinter bid of 3@S is not satsifactory because it gives partner no picture of the holdings in the minor suits. |pg|| nt|fann4: Amazing how different players have been opening 1@D in this match. Bd 2 was another one.|pg|| nt|gosia: :)|pg|| nt|fann4: I missed the obvious trump loser:)|pg|| nt|olien: 1@c=polish, 2@c=15+ w/ @c|pg|| mb|p|nt|tez: it is widely seen such misunderstandings amongst artificial system players or on new partnerships|pg|| mb|2D|nt|brolucius: Very cautious....|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 2@C is a GF, by the look of it|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Yes|pg|| nt|fann4: Neither NS in both rooms here are new partnerships - it's the artificiality that has caused the problems. |pg|| nt|fabsayc: more likely a matter of fatigue here|pg|| mb|3N|nt|fann4: I am not a fan of N's dbl here.|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: unless he rebids 3C|pg|| nt|bjacobs: And West is no Walrus|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: "I had 18 points partner! Had to double 4@H"|pg|| nt|pitiful: the problem responding 2@c is that it might go 2@s pass 4@s and now you sort of feel you have to bid 5@h, less likely at this vul though|pg|| nt|brolucius: "You had bid at the two-level, too!"|pg|| mb|p|nt|tez: if you'll aplly any artificial system you should work well |pg|| pc|s5|nt|fabsayc: hard to like some bids|pg|| nt|fabsayc: good contract, but not sure about 3nt bid|pg|| nt|fann4: So POL pulled back 5 imps on board 23, going only -200 in 2@S|pg|| nt|gosia: See you all tonite- gotta do some chores - can't wait to watch should be very exciting :)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: may play dummys queen reasoning he has no safety play|pg|| nt|fann4: This is an interesting hand. Declarer has to put up the @SQ at trick 1. |pg|| nt|bessi2: i think martens has to go up with the q.. because if he plays low 10 ace and then clears clubs the defense can play ak hearts and squeeze dummy|pg|| nt|fann4: If he plays low, when he knocks out the 3rd @C, then 2 rounds of @H will squeeze the dummy.|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|Vugraph7: east left the room|pg|| pc|sT|nt|bjacobs: Right |pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Vugraph7: ok now no more english in the room lol|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|nt|bjacobs: Of course the Walrus counts 1 point for his doubleton heart|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|nt|bessi2: Martens reached the same conclusion as us commentators|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SAKJ2HKDQJ754CKQ2,S7653H752DKT9CT94,S4HQJT963DA83CAJ6,SQT98HA84D62C8753|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|me argent: with 7 cold this is not a good result 4 harris|pg|| nt|inquiry: look like Ejeblad has a great result on this hand in the open room|pg|| nt|inquiry: lots of imps possible here|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kit: Meckstroth has a good hand, but no convenient action|pg|| nt|me argent: just a question how many imps they will lose from about 10 to 18 imps|pg|| mb|p|nt|landen: quandary, hates 4 card overcalls and hates passing this much so doubled?|pg|| mb|1S|nt|kit: Double is very dangerous with a stiff diamond|pg|| nt|picix: prosto do celu...|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|an|check back|nt|kit: but on a good day partner doesn't bury you with diamond bids|pg|| nt|inquiry: well this is slam zone now... imps are coming to the leader for sure... 5@H, 5@D, 2@S ruff, and @CA.. they just need to avoid playing in @cs... |pg|| mb|p|nt|picix: Jak mawia Pan Zdzienicki: "Koñcówki siê goli|pg|| nt|picix: a szlemiki siê licytuje..."|pg|| mb|2N|nt|bigtrain: this is the way to show a 16-18 4-card @S raise|pg|| nt|inquiry: if they bid the grand, will all Harris's hard work to go up by 18 in this set be wiped out? Bridge can be a cruel game.... |pg|| nt|me argent: can be cruel?|pg|| nt|inquiry: well to me it is almost aways... :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|me argent: to everyone|pg|| mb|3H|nt|inquiry: I am thinking on this auction, 5@D is forcing... we will see if Stansby bids again .. .that will tell us as he has so little... but then they open very light... :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: not much the defense can do here|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|6D|nt|me argent: stansby knows despite his minimum he has great fitting cards 4 partner|pg|| nt|inquiry: no way for EAST to know about @CA I think, so this might be the end.. on the other hand,.... his partner has to be inviting 7 and he has AKQ of trumps.....|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Best defense is actually a diamond shift, and hope declarer is unable to find his ninth trick|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3 is a standard card... meckwell normally play upside-down carding|pg|| nt|bigtrain: this is an exception|pg|| nt|landen: Not likely looking at mech's heart holding|pg|| nt|kit: But on the auction, declarer can't very well get it wrong -- Meckstroth would be squeeze in 3 suits on the run of the diamonds|pg|| mb|p|nt|me argent: he chickened out he knew it was rgt to bid with those @Ds but he just couldnt bring himself to do it|pg|| nt|inquiry: It seems like it must be... right to bid on.... and this hand is typical of their light openings.... even vul|pg|| mb|p|nt|me argent: but it was the rgt decesion as the OR result indicates|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|kit: Meckstroth is basically hoping that his partner has the diamond stopped|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|landen: Walter? trick one standard count, then standard remainder count?|pg|| nt|kit: Still, I'm not exactly sure what he is playing for|pg|| nt|bigtrain: yes... current count is standard.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|nt|kit: oops|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|nt|frajerzyna: no rzeczywiœcie to by³o PRAWDZIWE golenie 10 pc do klasycznego bez atu|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c5|nt|kit: now he will be under pressure|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SAKJ2HKDQJ754CKQ2,S7653H752DKT9CT94,S4HQJT963DA83CAJ6,SQT98HA84D62C8753|sv|b|nt|fann4: EW also in 6@S on bd 24|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: a close 3NT or 4H by NS|pg|| mb|1C|nt|brolucius: Surely not 2@S now.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Nothing like his previous jump overcall.|pg|| nt|pitiful: 1@s for me|pg|| nt|bjacobs: and me|pg|| nt|bjacobs: why put your head in the noose with 2@S?|pg|| nt|pitiful: close to passing|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: The noose must be there for a purpose.|pg|| nt|gosia: that wa 35 years ago - he calmed down alot after cutting his hair|pg|| mb|1H|nt|bessi2: another makeable but unbiddable slam for ns|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: :)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: it's a metaphorical noose David - it's not actually hanging at the table|pg|| mb|1S|nt|pitiful: not a nice rebid problem for south|pg|| nt|bjacobs: It would just be a dead giveaway if West bid 2@S and put it round his neck|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Particularly if he chose the noose with the 800 price tag.|pg|| nt|gracelin: 3NT makes without a D lead|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes, a @D lead would be sad|pg|| nt|brolucius: South will be happy of a chance to pass.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Unless 2@H was GF|pg|| nt|gracelin: not sure whether 3H is forcing or not but with 3 aces guess south will bid a game at Vul.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Does 4@H make? That club suit is very interesting|pg|| nt|brolucius: Why should he expect to make game?|pg|| nt|gracelin: 6H plus 3 tricks at the side|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: is it time for some coffe here, this room is cold|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|tez: hard to stop before five level|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|gracelin: now let's see if declarer can find the intra finesse in clubs|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Well it's going to take an unlikely intrafinesse and squash of @C8 to make thjis|pg|| nt|gracelin: and he might afraid a trump promotion so will use DA to clear trumps first, after that the intra finesse is gone|pg|| nt|gracelin: essentiall declarer may just play H for no loser and CK on side|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: slam may not be unbiddable, |pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: West made the overcall, so reasonable to play him for the @CK.|pg|| nt|tez: wd|pg|| nt|tez: trust your pd:)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this auction looks like has potential for another disaster was 2s artificial|pg|| nt|fabsayc: some bid by north asking for heart honours would likely work|pg|| nt|bessi2: true... and the slam is actually quite good|pg|| nt|fann4: But if E doesn't lead a @D you cannot combine chances in the pointed suits.|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|nt|Vugraph7: claiming here|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: east said better to play it|pg|| mb|5N|nt|fann4: One extra chance of trying to bring down !Qxx first.|pg|| mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Another good reason NOT to bid 2@S (getting back to the start of this hand) - makes it too easy in the play|pg|| nt|gracelin: North shud at least be thinking to indicate he knows how to play intrafinesse but rejects it.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: thanks for the grammar lesson on double negatives, spectators|pg|| pc|c5|nt|fann4: I'm not sure if there is an operator error, but in the OR, NS on bd 25 are in 4@h with a 4-0 fit.|pg|| nt|bessi2: seeing the scorecards in both rooms i'm guessing the n-s pairs are feeling somewhat better then the ew pairs|pg|| pc|c2|nt|bjacobs: 2@S is like putting a gun to your head :)|pg|| pc|cT|nt|fann4: Seems like N was making an auto cue bid after bidding strongly with @C,a and S thought it was delayed support. Sigh!]|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|brolucius: The intra-finesse only became possible when the @C8 appeared.|pg|| nt|gracelin: H10 ruff still makes|pg|| pc|h3|nt|gracelin: ruffing with H6 is inexcusable|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes, they had to set up their diamond trick |pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Oh I don't know - suppose spades are 5-3 and West has doubleton @HJ|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Remember, West bid only 1@S :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|h5|pg|| nt|bjacobs: A 2@S bid would have been like ...|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|d5|pc|h7|pg|| nt|brolucius: West is not playing WJOs (he had 15 points for his 2@D, earlier).|pg|| pc|s4|nt|gracelin: but I thk the defense indicated 6-2 in spades. Otherwise West will shift to D|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|h6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|d7|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dJ|mc|12|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SQJ92HQT87DA942C9,SHAJ6542DJ7CAKQ62,SA764HK3D653CJ853,SKT853H9DKQT8CT74|sv|o|nt|landen: multi 2@D, bad weak 2 in a major?|pg|| nt|me argent: and we are back to where we started|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|landen: nope|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: But Rosenberg goes conservative|pg|| nt|inquiry: Team harris is a four person team that has been playing every session every day.. this is just the start of day 2 for team ekeblad that had a bye until this round... it is tough to ...|pg|| nt|inquiry: play elimination style bridge with no rest day after day....|pg|| mb|1S|nt|frajerzyna: Pan Zdziennicki powiedzia³ to jakieœ 50 lat po autorze|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|kit: just as well -- if he had opened multi, Zia probably would have driven to game|pg|| nt|inquiry: another good result in the open room for team ekelbald.. they will take the lead for the set on this hand....|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: I doubt if Meckstroth will sell here|pg|| nt|me argent: 5@Hs EW is very tough to beat|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: ale rzeczywiœcie mia³ racjê|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|kit: Rosenberg will certainly compete to 3@H, which can be beaten I believe|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s4|nt|frajerzyna: Narkiewicz gra w rozdaniu 3 ba i wygra po wiœcie w dame karo|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|kit: sorry, miscounted -- 3@H makes|pg|| nt|kit: it is 4@H which can be beaten on spade lead|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|bigtrain: i have to admit, i would have strongly considered 3@S with eric's hand|pg|| nt|kit: Rodwell might have tried 3@S knowing the hands fit well with his three small hearts, but that is difficult on a 4-bagger|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: a tu jest szansa na zapis dla NS |pg|| pc|dJ|nt|kit: Rodwell will shift to what? A trump could pick up partner's Qx, but could be right if declarer has doubleton diamond|pg|| nt|kit: or even if declarer has 3 diamonds maybe|pg|| nt|inquiry: there is a chance to go down here. the 4-0 @S split being unexpected... Got to figure @DA with EAST and probably will continue top @D however.... for ruffing finessee....|pg|| nt|me argent: stansbys pass over 4@Hs seems a little wet |pg|| pc|d6|nt|me argent: but they may well beat this 4 a big score|pg|| nt|maticm4: jak myœlicie, odbêdzie siê 6 segment?|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: no |pg|| pc|d7|nt|kit: but I think the danger of blowing a heart trick is too great, so my guess is he'll continue spades|pg|| nt|inquiry: can harris guess the @S split given EAST didn't raise @Hs? with AQx of diamonds and fairly reasonable @H support?|pg|| nt|me argent: pitching @H not best|pg|| nt|inquiry: almost ahs to be 4-0 to explain the bidding which is hard to believe anyway....|pg|| nt|me argent: @C might have worked out better|pg|| nt|me argent: declarer has entry problem,s|pg|| pc|d5|nt|frajerzyna: przynajmniej jakieœ 10 impów|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: mo¿e bêdzie jeszcze dalsza gra|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| nt|me argent: whoops|pg|| pc|cA|nt|kit: and now a club up -- Meckstrong will do what? |pg|| nt|inquiry: still under control..... |pg|| nt|me argent: bad news for declarer|pg|| nt|inquiry: can use @Ds as trump substitutes.... :)|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|dQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|mc|8|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SQJ92HQT87DA942C9,SHAJ6542DJ7CAKQ62,SA764HK3D653CJ853,SKT853H9DKQT8CT74|sv|o|nt|bjacobs: But with 5@S West doesn't really know if the third spade is cashing - he might try to cash it|pg|| nt|bjacobs: as in fact he did|pg|| nt|bessi2: won't cost them that much since they must have been on their way to 5clubs which never makes|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: ok not 100% but I thk ruffing with H10 cater for much more cases.|pg|| nt|fann4: Good point|pg|| mb|1H|nt|fabsayc: could have made 5 but perhaps claim line was wrong|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: he claimed five, but east said they get 2 more tricks seing south hand|pg|| nt|fann4: Bd 11 in the OR was full of action. After 1@C-1@H South dbled. NS were in big trouble but EW pushed on to 3NT. W could have made it, but played for @D 4-4 and went down.|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: It's all a bit of a guerssing game, and declarer has my sympathy|pg|| nt|bjacobs: not that it's worth much to him|pg|| mb|1S|nt|fabsayc: ruff twice in hand works, dummy reversall, and thanks all for georgia wins updates|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: 6NT on 2 finesses, but double 2D will be good enough to win some imps|pg|| nt|fann4: Martens's 1@D opening (which I think is automatic) will make 3NT a cinch to make, if EW get there. But they may finish up in 4@S|pg|| nt|tez: in fact player should call TD instead of "go on"after claim if has any reason to reject|pg|| mb|3C|an|5-5 15 -17 NF|mb|p|nt|fann4: Could not 2@D be 'to play', with 2@H being the clearer cue bid?|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|gosia: 3 @d now everyone will bid them :)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i doubt that will help their mood|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Get that 800 noose out|pg|| nt|gosia: I like 3d better|pg|| mb|5C|nt|brolucius: East has more than enough points for a game. That makes it a good time to play for penalties, since the extra points will bring in more (extra penalty) than they would in 3NT ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: overtricks.|pg|| nt|fann4: In fact, with 4@H only 1 down it didn't cost - but the psychological effect may be much more expensive.|pg|| nt|bessi2: indeed|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|gracelin: can get 1100 if West can use his DJ to ruff the 5th H, of course, defenders need to cash all their winners in advance|pg|| nt|tez: you can show stopper depends what suit cuebid by opp|pg|| mb|p|pc|sA|nt|brolucius: It was a debatable use of the 2@C convention, since if there was any sort of diamond fit, E-W could easily outbid them in a major.|pg|| pc|s3|nt|fabsayc: club queen?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c2|pg|| nt|gracelin: 4th H|pg|| nt|pitiful: terence reese would not approve of north "opening his mouth" with north's hand|pg|| nt|fabsayc: even with this lead 5@C is tough|pg|| nt|bessi2: this was a very friendly lead.. he can make it now i think|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I wouldn't bother debating it myself - there is no upside to coming in with that North hand|pg|| nt|brolucius: Particularly as he then went on to say something.|pg|| nt|gracelin: they have set up the occasion for the uppercut|pg|| nt|gracelin: East must duck the DQ play, though|pg|| nt|gracelin: must not|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|c4|pc|h8|pg|| nt|fabsayc: take it back marcin :)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cA|nt|gracelin: discard|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Now East can get a promotion! |pg|| nt|brolucius: Now declarer can pitch a loser. That was Patrick's point about cashing the black-suit winners first.|pg|| nt|gracelin: not if North discard a spade|pg|| nt|bjacobs: If he pitches a spade, then 3 rounds of clubs kills him - East will get 3 trump tricks|pg|| nt|bjacobs: East wins @DA, then 2 spades and the deadly 4th club|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|bjacobs: If he pitches a club,then the same procedure applies in spades|pg|| nt|gracelin: true. if declarer pitch club that's no good either|pg|| pc|cK|nt|gosia: and who r u ?|pg|| pc|c5|nt|bjacobs: But the defence might not be found|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|bjacobs: Gee E/W are mean and nasty players|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dT|nt|brolucius: Yes, they have done well. West's club switch was excellent.|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| nt|gracelin: so it will soon break the 100 imps mark|pg|| nt|bessi2: if jansma had played a diamond at trick 2 he could have made it.. 7 club tricks 1heart 1spade and 2 diamonds|pg|| pc|dK|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SJ7654HK63DJ9CAKQ,SQ3HAQ987DAQT3C95,SAKHJ52DK6CJT7432,ST982HT4D87542C86|sv|n|mb|1H|nt|frajerzyna: tu jest szansa na punkty|pg|| mb|2C|nt|inquiry: ekeblad has wiped out the huge session lead, and now leads 31 to 29 for the boards today|pg|| mb|p|nt|me argent: another good OR result for eke|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: szlem pikowy po partii |pg|| mb|3N|nt|landen: lightning fast in this room....surprising|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Close 4@H here -- probably depends upon picking up the queen of hearts|pg|| nt|me argent: EW make 3 or 4 @Cs|pg|| nt|maticm4: z pewnoœci¹ ns powinni ruszyc do ataku|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: probably a support double -- but might show a strong notrump -- anybody know?|pg|| nt|landen: both, I guess|pg|| nt|kit: this time, yes both|pg|| nt|landen: support with strong notrump or equivalent distribution|pg|| nt|inquiry: I predict they will not get to play 2@H here....|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: now for sURE|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|kit: Rodwell probably not worth a raise with weak shape|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: mow 7 pik|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: proszê|pg|| nt|maticm4: heh:)|pg|| pc|c2|nt|maticm4: ooo|pg|| pc|c6|nt|frajerzyna: i dosta³em bitkê|pg|| pc|cA|nt|inquiry: any reasonable way to avoid 5 losers in @hs? set @d up for @C pitch, but that is not going to happen|pg|| nt|me argent: EW pushed their opponents just high enough|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: o sorry to by³ priw|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|inquiry: and too late now anyway|pg|| nt|maticm4: moze siê zacz¹æ:)|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: brawo MIcha³|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: musia³ us³yszeæ|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: mam donoœny g³os|pg|| pc|cK|nt|kit: I guess the double didn't guarantee 3-card heart support, or Rosenberg's 3@D call would be strange|pg|| nt|landen: I'm told Zia plays it shows strong notrump, says nothing about heart support|pg|| nt|kit: A lot of pitfalls this hand -- even if Rosenberg gets the hearts right, he has problems|pg|| nt|kit: and he may take two spade finesses, which would be bad|pg|| nt|kit: he is worried about his third club -- he fears a 6-2 split after the overcall|pg|| nt|kit: But Meckstroth did pass as dealer, which places a lot of cards in Rodwell's hand and makes it more likely clubs are 5-3|pg|| pc|c9|nt|frajerzyna: mia³ powa¿ne przes³anki|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: w pikach wyd³u¿enie|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|frajerzyna: KD kier i partner obieca³ kontrole w m³odszych|pg|| pc|cQ|mc|9|nt|inquiry: eight tricks... is the limit|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SJ7654HK63DJ9CAKQ,SQ3HAQ987DAQT3C95,SAKHJ52DK6CJT7432,ST982HT4D87542C86|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: or continue with cross ruff|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|bessi2: true.. south could have taken the diamond ace and switched to clubs.. a spec informed me that only ace of heart heart ruff followed with a low diamond from dummy allows 5clubs to ...|pg|| nt|bessi2: make according to deep finesse|pg|| mb|2H|nt|fabsayc: cover right if south had 10x|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: what is this auction|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Difficult defence to break this contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: More like impossible: @DQ at trick 2|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: endplayed into bidding 3nt|pg|| nt|fann4: Well - on bd 26 in the OR, NS in a no-play 6@D. That is going to cost RUB 17 imps.|pg|| pc|dA|nt|olien: fortunately can't misguess @d :)|pg|| pc|d6|nt|gracelin: West needs to shift to DQ after the first H to beat 1NT, I guess|pg|| pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: too strong for invite if that was intent (IMHO)|pg|| nt|fann4: I agree. If W has a weak NT, even with 12pts, there must be a play for game.|pg|| nt|fann4: Imps have been flying all over the place this set. It has not been the usually high standard of a Major final.|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: i can read of the alert of 3d 9-11 + 3 of top 5 d|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|bessi2: Martens-Jassem having a very solid session here so far|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|olien: big swing coming on board 26 as OR is in 6@d|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SK8HK7642DA65CJ32,S94HAJ3DK843CQT74,SAT632H85DTCA9865,SQJ75HQT9DQJ972CK|sv|b|nt|landen: so much for the "sporting double"|pg|| nt|inquiry: was down one correct?|pg|| mb|2S|an|2 suits|nt|me argent: of course ther are almost 50 hands left in this match so harris can still come back the problem of course is that other team is playing very well|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: something funny happened at the end on that claim I think..|pg|| mb|3C|an|pass or correct|mb|p|mb|p|nt|me argent: @D lead might well set this|pg|| nt|inquiry: ok something in the play must have been wrong|pg|| nt|me argent: nothing else will|pg|| nt|inquiry: earlier|pg|| mb|p|nt|me argent: VOILA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|kit: This is an easy 4@H for N-S. E-W have good 5@D save, but they have to get the suit in to find it|pg|| nt|landen: another Zia 1NT psyche, about 1 every 10 boards it seems|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|kit: And opening 1NT is not the way to do that|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|inquiry: this will be down... |pg|| nt|me argent: good start for NS|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|me argent: and 13 imps back to HARRIS|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|c3|nt|me argent: NEXT|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c5|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c6|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SK8HK7642DA65CJ32,S94HAJ3DK843CQT74,SAT632H85DTCA9865,SQJ75HQT9DQJ972CK|sv|b|nt|brolucius: You would probably play on, to avoid appearing in the record books. |pg|| nt|olien: which is destined for down 1 on any play|pg|| mb|2S|nt|fann4: But Rubin is a 6 man squad.|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: And it happened in Taiwan more than 20 years ago that a team led more than 100 imps at half time and eventually lost the trial.|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Painful memory for you.|pg|| mb|p|nt|gracelin: for local specs who might still remember it's Nan-Lian beat Hei-Zhao|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|fabsayc: for those who missed it earlier, jassem-martens playing two systems depending on vulnerability|pg|| nt|fann4: And by that, I mean all men.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| nt|gracelin: Hei Zhao is a team consisted of the famous Chang's brother in the 70's and 80's|pg|| nt|gosia: I know - Rose put up a valiant battle, but lost yesterday|pg|| nt|fann4: This could get passed out in the other room (though no-one seems to pass 3rd in hand on anything anymore).|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| nt|gosia: I first played 2 systems with Dorothy Truscott in 1984|pg|| pc|c5|nt|gosia: Anyway before that ?|pg|| pc|hT|nt|gosia: Anyone before that ? Kibbitzers ?|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|fabsayc: needs to play to set up side suit and is|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s2|pc|d2|nt|Vugraph7: 28 minutes left in the clock|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: jassem left the room|pg|| nt|gosia: strong club when opponents vul I think, and polish club when not|pg|| nt|fann4: Looks like 1 down.|pg|| nt|fann4: On bd 27, OR in 3NT (where 5@C was played here, down 1)|pg|| pc|c9|nt|gracelin: declarer can make 4 with a good guess in heart, which he will probably not|pg|| nt|fabsayc: if jansma allowed to win this trick must play a trump|pg|| nt|tez: rehi all|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h2|nt|brolucius: North seems to have disguised his diamond holding, to encourage declarer to misguess in hearts.|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h9|nt|gracelin: declarer play safe for 3, in 4S he needs to give up the trump first|pg|| nt|gosia: The trick was to be able to put it all on a single convention card - took me 2 months :)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h7|nt|fann4: These days it takes 2 months just to write out the agreements over 1@C.|pg|| mc|7|nt|Vugraph7: Jansma "yeahhh we went plus"|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SA2HA6DA65CAJ8752,SKQ43HT9432DQ87C9,SJ96H87DKJ43CKQ43,ST875HKQJ5DT92CT6|sv|o|nt|kit: depends on what you call a psych. Zia probably thinks his hand is worth 12 points|pg|| nt|landen: let's call it offbeat then, OK?|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: two more boards in this set....|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kit: Not sure why Zia didn't just bid 2@H -- maybe that would show 5?|pg|| mb|3N|nt|me argent: making 2@Hs wont be easy without a little help|pg|| nt|me argent: that lead didnt help|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Rodwell knows the hand is mis-fittish, so he won't be competing I don't think|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: wow -- Zia passed 2@D. That is quite a positin|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|bigtrain: @C2 is another standard card|pg|| nt|landen: it appears that's what his partner hoped for|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|genesaxe: that makes more sense.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| nt|inquiry: @S5 ?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|kit: Looks like declarer has 6 unavoidable losers|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|bigtrain: Jeff was hoping to force michael to trump a losing @C with the @DK building another trump trick for himself|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h4|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|c8|pc|s4|pg|| nt|inquiry: we must have missed a @H shift in here on the redo... |pg|| pc|c7|pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| nt|poohbear: are we crashed?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: looks like it|pg|| nt|landen: can't tell, smoke break?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SA2HA6DA65CAJ8752,SKQ43HT9432DQ87C9,SJ96H87DKJ43CKQ43,ST875HKQJ5DT92CT6|sv|o|nt|brolucius: 'Only a part score', but a full 8 IMPs changed hands.|pg|| nt|gosia: It was Benito Garozzos idea , he said after strong club, opponnets frivolus to interfere if not vulnerable|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|r|nt|fabsayc: this slam unlikely to be bid|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|brolucius: The ideal result in a final trial is that one team crushes the other. The country can then be happy that their strongest players will represent them. Not the same after a 6-IMP ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: win.|pg|| nt|gracelin: true|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i believe jassem actually has two convention cards|pg|| mb|p|nt|tez: jansma and verhees very well played i think in this tourney|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|fann4: A normal but hopeless 3NT, which W is playing in the OR.|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: their defense has been really solid|pg|| pc|h2|nt|brolucius: 2NT was an alternative for East (unless that is played as a forcing relay). He must care for the heart fit being 4-3. West has now said 'No, I hold four hearts, but only a minimum ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: hand.'|pg|| nt|brolucius: ...cater for...|pg|| pc|h7|nt|gracelin: even with 4-H I might pass 1H with the West hand though I normally will give a raise with 4|pg|| nt|Walddk3: I gave you the link to both convention cards earlier|pg|| nt|Walddk3: They play differently, depending on vulnerability|pg|| nt|fann4: Maybe EW play something different here - normally 1NT is 18-19.|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Polish Club and Precision|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|nt|fabsayc: lost them roland, give us them again|pg|| nt|fann4: Wonder what 2NT opening shows with these guys?|pg|| nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/ynk8p2 Martens-Jassem NV|pg|| nt|Walddk3: http://tinyurl.com/2cvxfj Martens-Jassem VUL|pg|| nt|fann4: GIB says this can make, double dummy maybe. Declarer has to play a @C now.|pg|| nt|gosia: I had 3 - one for each system - and 1 for the combined|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Impossible to get it right single dummy|pg|| nt|Walddk3: It is even difficult to spot with all cards in view|pg|| nt|fabsayc: yes club to king and diamond hook, later heart hook|pg|| nt|gosia: martens needs to cover |pg|| nt|Walddk3: AQ@C (overtaken by the K), J @D, then @D, J@C, @H twice and a diamond. Virtually impossible|pg|| nt|fabsayc: works if south has any doubleton honour|pg|| nt|Walddk3: But that is the winning line|pg|| nt|Walddk3: The defence will duck @DJ of course|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s8|pc|cA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|sT|pg|| nt|Walddk3: In the other room Gierulski played for North to have Kx in hearts|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s4|nt|Walddk3: So @HA and a small|pg|| pc|s6|nt|Walddk3: At least he got the 4-2 right|pg|| nt|fann4: It's a complicated hand, but certainly a case to play N for 3@D with 1 honour and 5@S.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: if they duck diamond you can hook hearts and endplay north|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SKQ4HKQ95DJT2CAT2,S92HAJT2DA764C654,S7H8763DQ5CKQJ973,SAJT8653H4DK983C8|sv|n|nt|me argent: AND LAST|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|me argent: anoyher slam|pg|| mb|2C|mb|4S|nt|me argent: t|pg|| nt|inquiry: they will not allow impossible claims, as played that one could not be down one.. so I think Lew won the club and shifted to a @H to get it down one....|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|inquiry: 2@D is the huge hand for NS|pg|| nt|me argent: it certainly is|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: jeff's 1NT is 14-16|pg|| pc|hK|nt|Vugraphu3: Both tables are finished, but we are leaving this up to try to enter the results from the other room. Will start again at 4:00 NY time|pg|| nt|Vugraphu3: Play has concluded for the morning here. We will restart at approximately 4:00 NY time. We are leaving this table up to try to get the results from the Closed Room entered|pg|| nt|inquiry: 2@D is 22+ hcp in their method|pg|| pc|hA|nt|inquiry: with at least: (a) a 5+ card major or, (b) a 6+ card minor and shortness somewhere. Rarely it’s stronger (10+ tricks in your own hand, at least 5-5 in @ds plus a Major). Never ...|pg|| nt|inquiry: 4-4-3-2 or 4-3-3-3|pg|| nt|inquiry: mabye chip didn't bid 5@S|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|me argent: maybe|pg|| nt|inquiry: A kibitzer pointed out never seen 5 keycards...and the trump queen response to blackwood.. me neither if that is what this is......|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|c8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c4|nt|inquiry: this is a lot of spades... but it can make.. now will it|pg|| nt|me argent: this should make with carefull play|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s3|mc|9|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SKQ4HKQ95DJT2CAT2,S92HAJT2DA764C654,S7H8763DQ5CKQJ973,SAJT8653H4DK983C8|sv|n|nt|brolucius: South knows, from the lack of a club continuation, that North is out of clubs. But in fact the defenders would have scored a trick more on a passive continuation. |pg|| nt|gracelin: it seems NS has lost interest in this game|pg|| nt|brolucius: I said that I would commentate on session 8, but I don't think I will need to set my alarm clock tomorrow. |pg|| nt|fabsayc: but all double dummy|pg|| nt|tez: the penultimate board|pg|| nt|tez: last one|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|gracelin: No David, likely not|pg|| mb|2C|nt|brolucius: Both teams can enjoy a glass of Taiwanese whisky after two more boards (for different reasons).|pg|| nt|gosia: They'll probably take a 10 break |pg|| mb|4S|mb|d|nt|gracelin: it's a habit in Taiwan, if one team concede in the trial, the other team shud treat them with a real nice dinner|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 4@D is very pushy|pg|| mb|p|nt|pitiful: i would prefer competitive double |pg|| nt|gracelin: and I am bidding 4H with the North hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Perhaps spades should be better for that.|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|nt|fabsayc: this looks to be down 1 but maybe there is a sqeeze|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bjacobs: There might be an accident on lead now|pg|| nt|gracelin: DA lead wll see 4H home|pg|| pc|h3|nt|fann4: The Multi, it seems, is becoming increasingly popular - quite a few pairs used it this event.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: is popular at the highest level, raises eyebrows at other levels since not generally allowed in NA|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|pitiful: but how else can you get to 3N when partner has Ax Kx xx KQJxxxx|pg|| nt|fabsayc: or even a squeeze|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|nt|fann4: Don't see it.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|brolucius: Bidding 3@H and then 4@H is not standard tactics. North had some reason to fear a minor-suit game for E-W. |pg|| nt|tez: please notice that just changing @C queen into the king makes GRAND slam a good contract...|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|gracelin: no conceding, Nan Yuan will surely play tomorrow ater this gain. Only need about 11 of this size to turn around|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: then west would likely have found some other bid over 3@S|pg|| pc|d4|nt|fann4: There are so many different ways to play the Multi. |pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, Peter makes a good point about 3NT. I remember reading some learned book about using a double in that way.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|d6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d5|mc|9|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SJ87HA9543DKJT75C,S2HQ87DQ864C96542,SK5HJT2DA3CKQJT73,SAQT9643HK6D92CA8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2H!|an|= spades|mb|3D|an|transfer if motions read |mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SJ87HA9543DKJT75C,S2HQ87DQ864C96542,SK5HJT2DA3CKQJT73,SAQT9643HK6D92CA8|sv|e|nt|gracelin: last board today. The next set will start 13 hours and 15 minutes from now. |pg|| nt|Vugraph7: finally the last hand if this first quarter, hope to see you all in some minutes for the second!!|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Last board of the first set now|pg|| nt|fabsayc: but the lack of a cuebid makes multi tough to defend|pg|| nt|fabsayc: good defense breaking up any possible squeeze|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk3: Many thanks to Catalina Robles, our hard working and very capable operator in Detroit. Well done!|pg|| nt|fann4: Yes, on many hands you have to wait to find out their suit and then enter.|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|2S|nt|tez: 2@d gf 2@h inv right?|pg|| nt|tez: if verhees pass|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: last hand here of this second quarter, hope to see you all here in 1 hr 45 min for the last 32 boards :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|gracelin: 4H ison with SK unexpectly being on side and DQ drops. Even the singleton D lead won't hurt|pg|| nt|gracelin: but 3NT will not be a success|pg|| mb|3N|nt|Walddk3: Also thanks to our many excellent commentators for guiding us through the 16 boards|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tez: ty all:)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Finally, our appreciations to ACBL and Rick Beye in particular for ensuring that this prestigious event is brought to BBO vugraph and inviting us to participate|pg|| nt|bessi2: verhees will presumably lead the ace of spades|pg|| pc|sA|nt|fann4: In the OR, W was able to compete with 3@D with only 3 trumps. Not sure how or why.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade queen tempting but a disaster|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|brolucius: South rightly prefers 4@H, holding no top heart honour and four-card support.|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|fabsayc: for those of you sending me messages in polish, all i can answer is with a :)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Our estimate is that there will be a break for about 15 minutes|pg|| nt|gosia: Poles will pick up 2 so lots of excitement to come !|pg|| nt|gosia: My favorite handicapper picked poles by a fraction :)|pg|| nt|gosia: imps|pg|| nt|fabsayc: but added footnote, if they dont fall asleep|pg|| nt|gosia: u were paying attention last night :)|pg|| nt|fann4: The Polish Club promises 4!+D.|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Often 5|pg|| nt|fann4: 4+@D|pg|| nt|Walddk3: can be 3 with 4441 or 4 diamonds and 5 clubs|pg|| nt|Walddk3: can be 4 I mean|pg|| nt|Walddk3: But it is always an unbalanced hand|pg|| nt|tez: q of @s:)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|d6|nt|brolucius: Patrick predicts that the concession will be held up for a session ot two, until the losers are ready for their excellent free meal.|pg|| nt|brolucius: If I had a free meal for every match that I conceded, I would be a happy man indeed.|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Balanced hands are opened 1@C|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|Walddk3: We know there is a typo on the banner (top)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: This is NOT a recording; this is live bridge from Detroit|pg|| nt|tez: Ew playing udca, @s 8 to lead appeared as big|pg|| nt|tez: udca=up side down attitude|pg|| nt|Walddk3: I am getting about 109 private messages a minute at the moment. Please understand that I can't respond to all of them. Thank you|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: 1 minute in the clock|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|tez: udca=Up side Down Count & Attitude|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Might be useful to mention that once a board starts being bid it cannot be taken away anyway, time violation or not.|pg|| nt|fabsayc: yesterday they played only 14 of 16 in last round because of slow play|pg|| nt|fann4: The defence seems to be grinding here. A simple COUNT card in @D makes it so easy.|pg|| nt|gosia: I think it was the day before they took away 2 boards|pg|| nt|fann4: Cash a 2nd @D and play a @S, forcing W to overtake.|pg|| mc|6|nt|fann4: By eall|pg|| nt|fann4: all|pg|| nt|bessi2: thanks all|pg|| nt|Vugraph7: bye all !!|pg|| nt|tez: bye all|pg|| nt|fabsayc: thanks to all|pg|| pg||