vg|2008 Vanderbilt Final - #12 vs #22,2nd Quarter,I,17,32,Rubin,34,Team Poland,36|
rs|2SE+1,2SE+2,2CW=,4SW=,4SW+1,4SW+1,1NW=,2SN-2,4SN+3,7SN=,3NS=,3NS=,2HE=,2HE-1,3NN=,5CNx-1,2NE=,2DW=,4HN=,4HS=,3NW-1,4SW=,3NW=,3DE+1,4HS=,4HS=,3NW-2,3NW-2,4SE+1,4SE+2,3DE=,|
pn|Jansma,Gierulski,Verhees,Skrzypczak,Martens,Lesniewski,Jassem,Weichsel|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3S2HKT32DAJ542CJT3,SQ9876HAJ8D9CA986,SJT53HQ96D63CQ742,SAK4H754DKQT87CK5|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Gierulski is always West, Shirley|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So you can safely insert the names|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If you can spell East's, that is :)|pg||
nt|vugraph9: none of the letters go together for me  (naturally) |pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: Skrzypczak|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Look carefully Shirley|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|chmitty: A vos souhaits :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|mareczek: if EW are Gierulski - Skrzypczak we will see the classic Polish Club|pg||
mb|p|pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: Gierulski is West, he is tall with a moustache|pg||
nt|Walddk2: You see that Shirley?|pg||
nt|mareczek: slightly more agressive - with 2@h/@s weak twosuiters, with side suit possible 4-cards, while Polish standard is 5-5|pg||
nt|vugraph9: yes I face him |pg||
nt|chmitty: Probably 10 tricks here|pg||
nt|vugraph9: actually they both have mustaches|pg||
nt|calabres: lol|pg||
nt|mareczek: 1@c is 12-14 PC balanced, natural 15+PC or 18+PC, aby distribution|pg||
nt|mareczek: as far as I know, they open 1@d in full range - 12-21 PC|pg||
nt|Walddk2: They even write 19+ on their CC, Marek|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/ys4qh3   Gierulski-Skrzypczak|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|nt|mareczek: it simplifies rebids after 1@c openings (when 18-21 PC with 5+@d is eliminated from 1@c opening)|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|chmitty: You see that, on a @d lead you can ruff @d : 5@s + 1@h + 1@c + 3@d = 10 tricks|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|nt|mareczek: yes, 19+, but they open 1NT 15-17... so with balanced 18 surely open 1@c|pg||
pc|s4|pc|dT|pg||
nt|chmitty: On another lead, you can play @c |pg||
pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: http://www.msc.com.pl/cezar/index.php?s=&mycl=0&tmt=5&p=21&r=4250&s_r=0&s_nz=Gierulski&s_off=0|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Here is a photo for you Shirley|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|mareczek: 2@s does not seem to be streched|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|s6|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
nt|mareczek: there are rumours that the names of Polish players are not written because the pronounciation is too diffiult :)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|d8|pc|s8|pg||
nt|chmitty: We must admit that "west" and "east" are easy to spell |pg||
mc|11|nt|chmitty: This event is the last one for Jansma and Verhees as a partnership|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Ignore 2006 on the banner (top). We know we are in 2008. It's a typo|pg||
nt|chmitty: They have decided to break a long lasting one|pg||
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qx|c17|st||md|3S2HKT32DAJ542CJT3,SQ9876HAJ8D9CA986,SJT53HQ96D63CQ742,SAK4H754DKQT87CK5|sv|o|nt|atlantajon: of his own making ...not acting over 2@d|pg||
nt|othered1: Somehow being given a free run from 2@H on should have let them investigate more efficiently.  Or maybe you need to spend more time on continuations after your very definitive ...|pg||
nt|othered1: leaping Micheals call.|pg||
nt|petergill: This Round 9 match is the most vital clash of the 2008 Camrose|pg||
nt|petergill: A NS slam to begin. |pg||
nt|granguru: hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Hello Cornelia and Jon. Good luck!|pg||
nt|Walddk4: John I mean|pg||
nt|granguru: tks Roland..same to u|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|galadriel: Can someone give me a link to the ccs?|pg||
nt|atlantajon: Agreed Ed|pg||
nt|petergill: 6@C looks easy, but 6@H looks hard to make, with the bad heart break.|pg||
nt|petergill: 1NT 14-16|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 6H needs a good view in trumps|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|didev: http://www.bridgeur.be/teams07/|pg||
nt|galadriel: cheers :-)|pg||
nt|petergill: This transfer to clubs is be a good way to ensure that hearts is not the final contract. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: 6@C maybe|pg||
nt|vugraph14: a little think from West|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: Hello Roland, and John!|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru: HI CHICK|pg||
nt|granguru: EW did well to stay out of the bidding|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|nt|petergill: I think 3@C is the positive reply, showing a good fit in clubs, but I'm not sure. |pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|nt|atlantajon: North needs to find the @c lead|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|othered1: @C lead is pretty important here|pg||
nt|atlantajon: much better contract in the closed room....4@s by east....|pg||
pc|hA|nt|atlantajon: -1|pg||
nt|othered1: Would you have taken a slower auction as west?  Still would get the @S in the wrong hand.|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I would have bid 2@s over 2@h raise...then you get to 4@s....still from wrong side|pg||
pc|h6|nt|mmmakela: normally 2 NT shows pos|pg||
nt|petergill: 5NT was "pick a slam". A good auction. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: easy now|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h2|nt|granguru: now they need to cash the 2 round aces and 3 trump tricks|pg||
nt|granguru: which looks pretty easy|pg||
nt|granguru: from here|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|didev: open majors by 4 and easts plays 4@s|pg||
nt|atlantajon: or souths opens 1nt with his 15 hcp...then west shows the majors....and east plays a @s contract|pg||
nt|granguru: done|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|cT|nt|petergill: 920, a good start for Ireland. After 8 of 10 matches, England lead on 160 VPs, Ireland 2nd on 141 VPs. Ireland need a good win. |pg||
pc|c8|nt|mmmakela: H 10 the vital card|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|petergill: This is the second half of the Round 9 match.  |pg||
pc|s8|nt|didev: what happened with the @c lead?|pg||
nt|othered1: nice @H pips to have in dummy|pg||
nt|galadriel: How well do you know the teams Dirk?|pg||
nt|galadriel: Would BCOB be the fancied team?|pg||
nt|stevedr: yes|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|didev: i played them the last 2 years|pg||
nt|didev: but it was my last year:(|pg||
nt|didev: BCOB won the final the last 5 or 6 years|pg||
nt|galadriel: Ah, so they are very experienced|pg||
nt|didev: Amsel is new on the team|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|nt|petergill: In Round 10, Ireland play Northern Ireland who are coming last, whereas England have a slightly tougher draw in CBAI, Ireland's 2nd team (the host country has two teams to prevent ...|pg||
nt|petergill: a bye). |pg||
pc|d2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|nt|didev: and Cornelis and Dedonder were new last year|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SQH96DAQT92CQT632,SJ972HKQ72DK85CK4,SAT86543HJTD4CJ75,SKHA8543DJ763CA98|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Oh, we have names :)|pg||
nt|mareczek: I think we see the different board then they bid|pg||
nt|Walddk2: East's name will earn you 1 zillion points in Scrabble|pg||
mb|p|pc|d9|nt|othered1: auction seems a tad out of phase|pg||
nt|mareczek: even after correction does not seem to be sensible|pg||
nt|Walddk2: East's name is pronounced   "Sktcheeptchak"   clear as ink|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|h4|pg||
nt|mareczek: unprobable...|pg||
pc|c8|nt|mareczek: Gierulski has choosen 2@c instaed of 1@s...|pg||
nt|othered1: pe;rhaps it was south who opened 1@D and west overcalled?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Are you sure this is the auction and final contract, Shirley?|pg||
nt|vugraph9: will wait to claim this one |pg||
nt|chmitty: You are right Ed|pg||
nt|mareczek: and Skrzypczak feared of his own brave round earlier?|pg||
nt|chmitty: the 1@d opening was by South|pg||
nt|mareczek: result from the other table is consistent with distribution|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 7 Europeans and 1 American at the two tables. Very unusual, especially when all the Italians are knocked out|pg||
nt|mareczek: 1@d opening by S creates interesting bidding problem for W|pg||
mc|8|nt|mareczek: 1@s is unesthetic|pg||
nt|mareczek: would you bid it as the twosuiter?|pg||
nt|vugraph9: double checked that was the contact   2 c making |pg||
nt|mareczek: Gierulski - Skrzypczak can also use raptor 1NT|pg||
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qx|c18|st||md|4SQH96DAQT92CQT632,SJ972HKQ72DK85CK4,SAT86543HJTD4CJ75,SKHA8543DJ763CA98|sv|n|nt|didev: championship|pg||
nt|didev: final of trial|pg||
nt|galadriel: Ok thx :-)|pg||
nt|didev: in a week or 2 weeks|pg||
mb|1D|nt|boltonian2: hi all|pg||
nt|granguru: HI Alex|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: 1@C = 11-13 balanced or 17+ any. |pg||
nt|chick: Hello Alex welcome :)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|didev: BCOB also favourite for trial for Europ champs|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|galadriel: Both sides have a double fit, may see a competitive auction|pg||
nt|didev: Cornelis Amsel were by far first in the butler of the round robin of the championship|pg||
mb|d|nt|chick: Patterson-Rees play a 14-16 NT |pg||
nt|granguru: so a in-between NT|pg||
mb|4S|nt|petergill: 1@H = common expert practice to overcall on a  strong four card major if the hand is unsuitable for a t/o dbl. |pg||
mb|p|nt|mmmakela: wow N took a big chance imo|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru: tough to beat 1N here|pg||
nt|granguru: probably only a @C could have done it|pg||
mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h5|nt|granguru: with a @H return if declarer ducked|pg||
pc|hK|nt|atlantajon: 590 is this score|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|galadriel: Well, S didn't find out about the double fit|pg||
nt|galadriel: Which may have influenced his decision|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|mmmakela: ag many 11-13 game is on|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|benjy: Good afternoon|pg||
pc|h9|nt|petergill: 3NT fails by a trick or more, so this looks like a good stop by the Irish pair. |pg||
pc|hT|nt|granguru: The lead of AQJxx is most desirable against 3N but no so much against 1N|pg||
pc|sT|nt|boltonian2: declarer has a lot of options though, which could lead to mistake, discards might be difficult|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|dA|nt|atlantajon: looks like 2 rounds of spades then @c's is the only play|pg||
pc|d6|pc|hQ|nt|petergill: Hi Ben  |pg||
nt|granguru: because you need 7 tricks to defeat the contract (vs only 5 in 3NT)|pg||
nt|chick: bad move, he needed the diamond trick|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|mmmakela: hi Ben|pg||
pc|d2|nt|boltonian2: now he has pitched a diamond from dummy it should be fairly straight forward|pg||
pc|d8|nt|petergill: 1@S was alerted because it was not forcing. Yes, North took a calculated risk, and has survived. |pg||
pc|s4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|sJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||
nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 172, IRELAND 159, WALES 145, SCOTLAND 126, CBAI 113, N-IRELAND 82 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  12   18  IRL **** SCO 19  11 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI 15  15 WAL***|pg||
nt|boltonian2: @S switch would have put this off|pg||
mc|10|nt|petergill: Glyn Liggins correctly does not overruff. |pg||
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qx|o19|st||md|1S53HA9DQJ987CA972,ST9862HKJ7632D5C8,SAK7HT84D63CKQJT5,SQJ4HQ5DAKT42C643|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Thanks Shirley. What about board 1?|pg||
nt|mareczek: I am not sure if they use it also after 1 in a minor opening|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|chmitty: 2@c has a lot of benefits at the end of the year|pg||
mb|d|mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: You sure it was 9 tricks, not 8?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I double, to get all three suits in|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Verhees was thinking |pg||
nt|othered1: What did the first double indicate?|pg||
mb|3C|nt|chmitty: x or 2@h ?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: East balancing now|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: When 1@C is almost always a minimum balanced hand|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: What is the Polish defence to Polish Club, Marek?|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|mareczek: one school is to treat double as the equal to 1@c Polish opening|pg||
nt|mareczek: then it is not necessary to have both majors fit|pg||
nt|vugraph9: West studyning dummy |pg||
nt|mareczek: second - is to play take out double with Herbert negative|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|chmitty: Best line of play is not obvious|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h8|nt|mareczek: there is also third - as play Balicki - ¯mudzinski - combination of Badger convention with Lambda strong pass openings|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d5|nt|mareczek: you pas 1@c with balanced hands (it often gives possibility to penalize opponents)|pg||
nt|mareczek: dbl = 1@h overcall, 1@d=1@s overcall|pg||
nt|mareczek: 1@h, 1@s, 1NT are alternative twosuiters at least 5-4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|cT|nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/ys4qh3   Gierulski-Skrzypczak|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|c3|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1S53HA9DQJ987CA972,ST9862HKJ7632D5C8,SAK7HT84D63CKQJT5,SQJ4HQ5DAKT42C643|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: 1@S 10-16, 5+ spades|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2C!|nt|petergill: 1NT 6-12 semi-forcing|pg||
mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|granguru: EW could have made 2@D most probably..but never entered|pg||
mb|4S|nt|boltonian2: this 1NT looks even less likely to make|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: 2@S looks touch and go. Will probably make, but we will see. |pg||
nt|benjy: i don't think it can make with accurate defense|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|atlantajon: a few more imps for E/W|pg||
nt|didev: some imps for Uccle|pg||
nt|mmmakela: EW has a shot at 3@C so 2@S made good|pg||
pc|d8|nt|galadriel: Oh well EW going to go plus|pg||
pc|dK|nt|benjy: Crouch will need to play ace and another @D at somepoint to defeat this|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|petergill: The club attack is best. The defence needs to shorten South to three trumps before the 13th heart is set up. |pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|granguru: almost impossible|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|galadriel: 1NT an interesting choice by S|pg||
nt|granguru: nice if -1|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|petergill: Sorry, you are all right - a diamond attack at some time does better. |pg||
pc|sA|nt|granguru: a good result against 2@D +90|pg||
nt|chick: he'll be lucky (or good) if he can get 5 tricks|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|nt|galadriel: I suppose it was natural?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c4|pg||
nt|galadriel: Could he have been suggesting the minors after the redouble?|pg||
pc|hK|nt|atlantajon: might have been|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SAK73HQJT9DQ875C5,STHA743DAK963C943,SQJ94HK82DCAKQT82,S8652H65DJT42CJ76|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|mareczek: In Polish Club 1@d is opened on 4 cards only with unbalanced - 4441 or 4@d 5@c|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mareczek: 1NT - 12-14 balanced without 4@s|pg||
pc|c3|nt|othered1: And what might NS's defense to @C be?|pg||
nt|vugraph9: nice spades. buy everyone  around the table|pg||
nt|mareczek: I do not know how they play in Netherlands against Polish Club|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h7|pc|cA|nt|Walddk2: They treat it as the weak NT. Double is just general take out|pg||
nt|mareczek: "short club" style - 1@c with 12-14 balanced even with 4 diammonds is quite popular in Netherlands|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cJ|nt|chmitty: Interesting to see that Jansma dit not balance with 2@h on this board|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SAK73HQJT9DQ875C5,STHA743DAK963C943,SQJ94HK82DCAKQT82,S8652H65DJT42CJ76|sv|b|nt|boltonian2: this could be interesting|pg||
nt|boltonian2: NS can make 5@H EW, will struggle in @S|pg||
mb|1C|nt|didev: well stopped in 5 in the closed|pg||
nt|benjy: 1Nt - 14-16 in this position|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|nt|granguru: NS can make 6@H guessing @D right|pg||
nt|boltonian2: if N overcalls 1@H, which seems normal, S will not stop short of 5@H|pg||
nt|chick: K-R 1C is 10+ but maybe only 2 clubs|pg||
nt|boltonian2: 2 A's?|pg||
nt|granguru: ooops sorry|pg||
nt|boltonian2: 4@C from patterson?|pg||
nt|chick: can make 12 tricks right after the oops take their 2 :)|pg||
nt|granguru: everything said was to make 5@H not 6|pg||
nt|granguru: :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: :)|pg||
mb|2S|nt|benjy: north would do very well to lead a @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: Yep..good old RKCB|pg||
nt|benjy: but a @S is normal|pg||
nt|granguru: good chick|pg||
nt|chick: hehe :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: this wont impress N overly greatly|pg||
nt|chick: been there done that :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: I imagine will just bid 4@H, such good clubs don't bode well, although opposite a singleton might not be too bad|pg||
nt|granguru: I said it just to see how many kibitzer are awake hearing us...|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk4: http://www.cbai.ie/camrose/standings.html  for standings before the last round|pg||
mb|p|pc|s6|nt|benjy: he can make this if he guesses the @C suit|pg||
nt|benjy: looks like a pure guess to me|pg||
nt|mmmakela: won't guess it is my bet|pg||
nt|petergill: @S2 = 4th best - so North lacks a five card suit - so North might have some club length, so North more likely to have @CQ - perhaps? Perhaps not?|pg||
nt|benjy: North looks like he is 4333 or two 4 card suits, assuming they are playing 4th highest|pg||
nt|benjy: but that makes no difference to the odds|pg||
nt|petergill: 1NT 14-16 in 1st and 2nd seat. |pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|mmmakela: so S more likely to have 4c clubs and the Q|pg||
pc|d2|nt|othered1: can anyone decode this?|pg||
nt|petergill: I just printed out Peter Crouch and Glyn Liggins Convention Card - all 12 pages of it!|pg||
nt|granguru: EW abandoned the fight early|pg||
nt|chick: low diamond?|pg||
nt|granguru: probably it will not work after W openend the hand|pg||
pc|d3|nt|granguru: lets see|pg||
nt|vugraph14: he heard u :-)|pg||
nt|granguru: At least S is thinking...|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|atlantajon: 2@c is a game frocing relay asking for more info...I think 2@h is good hand with @h shortness|pg||
nt|othered1: It's always nice to know what information is available to the players to see how they deal with it (and if system provides room they need to make accurate decisions)|pg||
nt|atlantajon: after that I think we have continued relay asks....|pg||
nt|stevedr: probably 4c-4s all pass|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|atlantajon: that would end it Steve|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|nt|atlantajon: 3@c..control of clubs...3@s  first round....4@c re-ask.....4@d first and second|pg||
pc|d4|nt|benjy: i know it all Peter so you don't need it|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|ybob: Hi Y´all  :)|pg||
nt|didev: hi Rob|pg||
nt|galadriel: Hmmm, now they can't check up on keycards|pg||
nt|atlantajon: hola roberto|pg||
nt|galadriel: Hello :-)|pg||
nt|othered1: 5@C is natural?|pg||
nt|atlantajon: must be|pg||
nt|othered1: odd, if south has been the relayer|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I agree|pg||
nt|atlantajon: pass or XX would be the responces over 4@hX...pass confirms stiff...XX shows void|pg||
nt|ybob: is 2@H any min hand without 4@H ?|pg||
pc|d6|nt|petergill: South has to be very careful NOT to ask for a diamond switch - tricky!|pg||
pc|d5|nt|atlantajon: good choice|pg||
nt|othered1: Looks like south made the right decision.  I wonder what were the key considerations|pg||
nt|atlantajon: get out of an auction that has gone astray...as soon as you are in a playable place|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I think the response to 4@hX threw him|pg||
nt|ybob: 4@H X ; pass no control , bid = 2º control , XX first control|pg||
nt|atlantajon: yes|pg||
nt|othered1: How do you know a relay auction has gone astray, unless partner has made an impossible bid.|pg||
nt|stevedr: lol|pg||
nt|atlantajon: but I think that he already knew about the stiff...as I think 2@h showed Non-min with heart shortness|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I think he knew partner had made the impossible bid with 5@c|pg||
nt|atlantajon: choices, if the stiff is known, are pass showing stiff....XX showing void|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: 2@H was @S  and a minor 3@S was short @H 4@D was min or exactly singl @H 5@C nat|pg||
nt|othered1: Thank you!|pg||
nt|atlantajon: thanks|pg||
nt|didev: must leave- good evening all|pg||
nt|atlantajon: you are great frederic  :)|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: West had in the same problem|pg||
nt|granguru: Fortunatelly I didnt bet that Coke|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|h4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|c3|pc|h3|pg||
nt|benjy: down 1|pg||
pc|c9|nt|petergill: @H2 was encouraging. even = encouraging is how NS play their first discard. |pg||
pc|c6|nt|mmmakela: good def|pg||
nt|petergill: Many Souths would wrongly have asked for a diamond switch. John Carroll did well to work out that a heart switch will always beat 1NT, whereas a diamond switch might not.  |pg||
nt|petergill: Of such things are winners made, at bridge. |pg||
nt|benjy: well, if he had pitched a @C then wouldn't south had switched to a @H?|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|benjy: suggesting equalish holdings in the reds?|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|c4|nt|benjy: north rather|pg||
pc|h7|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SAJT7HK5DAQ62CK92,S62HT93DKT4CJT765,SK954HAQ862D5CQ83,SQ83HJ74DJ9873CA4|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mareczek: nice 7@s|pg||
nt|chmitty: Will they reach it ? Let's see|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|othered1: Will the limited nature of north's hand help here?|pg||
mb|3D!|an|max 6/4|nt|chmitty: If South makes the decision he must know the 3 aces and a stiff @d|pg||
nt|chmitty: If North makes the decision, he must know KQ@s and Q@c|pg||
nt|chmitty: K@c and stiff @h sry|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|othered1: south is captain here?|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2@c is a relay here and 3@d shows short @d probably|pg||
mb|3N!|an|6214|mb|p|mb|4C!|an|rkc|mb|p|nt|mareczek: if he knows partenr is 6421, then info about @cQ is most important|pg||
nt|Walddk2: www.geocities.com/gerben47/conventioncards/jansma-verhees.pdf  for the Dutch convention card|pg||
mb|4D|nt|chmitty: I'm told 3@d shows good 64 and 3NT short @d|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|othered1: Limited opening lets north treat this hand as a confident maximum.  A good feature.|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: It's a perfect fit|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chmitty: Circuit break|pg||
pc|d4|nt|othered1: if north had shown a maximum and 0 or 3 keys, how can south have signed off?|pg||
nt|vugraph9: has been misunderstanding re rkc |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Apparently|pg||
mc|13|nt|Walddk2: They missed an almost laydown slam|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Even grand slam is not bad|pg||
nt|othered1: Grand is good enough to bid, even if opps are in game|pg||
nt|chmitty: Grand is more than  90 %|pg||
nt|chmitty: ruff a @h if @s are not 40 or @d 33|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Gierulski is out of the room |pg||
nt|vugraph9: Veerhees is pacing |pg||
nt|vugraph9: all taking places again |pg||
pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SAJT7HK5DAQ62CK92,S62HT93DKT4CJT765,SK954HAQ862D5CQ83,SQ83HJ74DJ9873CA4|sv|n|nt|granguru: S thought but N was the declarer!|pg||
nt|granguru: :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: surprised he didnt get that right, but made little difference|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|petergill: Since South can calculate that a heart switch will ALWAYS defeat 1NT, even if it gives declarer a cheap trick with @HK, South should take charge and demand the heart switch. Good ...|pg||
nt|petergill: defence. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: E must find a bid now|pg||
mb|4H|nt|galadriel: Probably get a @C lead and only make 10|pg||
nt|atlantajon: yep|pg||
nt|ybob: 1@D = 11/15 ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|stevedr: y|pg||
nt|atlantajon: must be..|pg||
nt|othered1: a transfer bid at the 4-level got north to 4@H in the other room, avoiding the @C lead|pg||
nt|galadriel: UCCLE need a few bigger swings though|pg||
mb|5S|nt|mmmakela: saved by S|pg||
mb|p|nt|atlantajon: more than a few....:)|pg||
mb|6C|nt|boltonian2: S seems to have taken a view|pg||
mb|p|mb|7S|nt|benjy: i cant stand X with the south hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|benjy: if you are going to bid then surely 1NT is right|pg||
nt|petergill: John Carroll was opposite a Passed Hand, so he might conceivably have passed out 1@S. |pg||
nt|chick: don't see anything in their cc about canape|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: The Irish style is to get in there and bid a lot, do lots of t/o dbl's, not a winner this time....|pg||
nt|mmmakela: pass seems best ag passed pd w 4333|pg||
nt|benjy: and he will pay for his protection as this looks like it will make|pg||
nt|petergill: Would everyone have opened 1@S?|pg||
nt|mmmakela: little to win but lots to lose|pg||
nt|benjy: 100% 1@S|pg||
nt|benjy: do you think you are worth a game force?|pg||
nt|benjy: and you will never get all of your suits across opening 2@C|pg||
nt|mmmakela: 1@S for me too|pg||
mb|p|pc|d6|nt|petergill: After 3 passes, and thus with a huge chance of being passed out, I would have opened 2@C, because all my suits can then be conveniently bid, i.e 2@C does not destroy our auction. |pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|benjy: As a spec points out a @C lead would have given declarer a lot of problems|pg||
nt|petergill: 2@C - 2x - 2@S - 2NT or 3x - 3@H - 3x - 4@D - I have bid all my suits, and shown my strength. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: playing 4c majs might consider 2 @C|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hT|nt|benjy: well if pd bids your void you might well opt for 3NT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SQT52HQ9DA4CJT654,SK863HAT3D82CA732,SAHKJ8742DKQJ93CQ,SJ974H65DT765CK98|sv|e|nt|vugraph9: the misunderstanding started with 3 @S on last hand apparently |pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chmitty: Note that 1NT in this specific situation does NOT promise a @s stopper|pg||
nt|vugraph9: the 3 @H call I should have said|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|chmitty: Therefore the 2@s cue-bid asks for confirmation|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The Poles just bid the grand slam on board 5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 17 IMPs coming soon|pg||
nt|vugraph9: everyone looking at trick,  no card turned over yet|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|h6|pg||
nt|chmitty: when both declarer and defence play the same suit it means one of them is wrong|pg||
nt|mareczek: Gierulski is known in Poland as the deliberate player|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SQT52HQ9DA4CJT654,SK863HAT3D82CA732,SAHKJ8742DKQJ93CQ,SJ974H65DT765CK98|sv|e|nt|benjy: Yes, it would have defeated the contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: Starting to see some results now, the 5 imps is from board 1|pg||
mb|1N|nt|boltonian2: dont agree with the double I am afraid|pg||
nt|granguru: dont agree with S double|pg||
nt|granguru: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|atlantajon: anyone know about 2@s...I have used it as a minor preempt...but with 4@h's?|pg||
nt|ybob: weak 1 minor ?|pg||
nt|stevedr: 6-4|pg||
nt|atlantajon: if so...it gives up on too many hands that @h's are the better place to place|pg||
nt|granguru: it is usually wrong to ask for suit(s) if you have a one-suited hand|pg||
mb|2C|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 170, IRELAND 161, WALES 148, SCOTLAND 126, CBAI 110, N-IRELAND 82 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  10   20  IRL **** SCO 19  11 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI 12  18 WAL***|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: England misguesed the hearts on Bd 1 in 6NT, so Ireland are getting closer to England's lead in the overall standings. |pg||
nt|granguru: the x and a second round suit normally shows a Gosh hand...|pg||
nt|granguru: from 17 up|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|chick: They play transfer responses over 1C (presumably the same over 1C X?)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|petergill: Thanks diumraid|pg||
nt|boltonian2: think this will end in 3N|pg||
mb|p|nt|atlantajon: this is a good place|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: 3 @C was @S and 3N 6 @D and 4 @H|pg||
nt|atlantajon: you were right Steve|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: was not 6-4 but 6 @D and maybe 4 @H never @S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: For the website, go to www.cbai.ie/camrose - it has the scores up to Round 8. |pg||
pc|d5|nt|benjy: what is north thinking about? Doubling?|pg||
nt|benjy: that would be madness|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|othered1: This is just an exercise in taking top tricks, likely 9 of them|pg||
nt|mmmakela: at pairs dbl tempting|pg||
pc|dK|nt|boltonian2: but maybe not|pg||
nt|boltonian2: probably wise|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|ybob: the best def  but cant defeat  |pg||
nt|othered1: with 4-3 @C break, it's easy|pg||
nt|galadriel: Good try by EW|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c4|nt|benjy: as long as the defense refrain from playing on @D this will not make|pg||
nt|petergill: The slightly lucky 5 imps to Ireland on Bd 2 makes the contest even closer, allowing for England's lead before this match. |pg||
nt|benjy: J of @C must be right here|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|benjy: declarer cannot have the Ace on this auction|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s4|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h3|nt|petergill: England would right now be about 6 VP's ahead of Ireland overall, and England have the tougher last round match later today. |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|h4|nt|benjy: no hope for declarer now|pg||
nt|petergill: looks very much like -1. |pg||
pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|mc|9|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SQJHAQT2DJ9763CT5,SK2HJ4DT85CAK7632,ST975HK53DAQCQJ94,SA8643H9876DK42C8|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: The 17 IMPs from board 5 scored now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Would you all open in the balncing seat?|pg||
mb|1N|nt|chmitty: A reasonable rule for light openings in 4th seat is : add HCP and the number of cards you hold in @s|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Doesn't meet the requirements of the Rule of 15|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|chmitty: If less than 15 : pass|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|an|min and no 3 sp|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|chmitty: But here I must admit I open ...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Also known as Pearson's Rule|pg||
mb|p|pc|h6|nt|chmitty: Opening was right choice here : 8 or 9 easy tricks|pg||
nt|chmitty: rather 9|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://homepage.mac.com/bridgeguys/Conventions/Rule15.html|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|othered1: There's a difference between a doubtful opening and one based on a good suit and a couple of quick tricks.|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|chmitty: @c shift reduces to 8 tricks|pg||
nt|chmitty: you can open a ruff before declarer unblocks trumps|pg||
nt|vugraph9: verhees pondering,  |pg||
pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|h7|pc|c4|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SQJHAQT2DJ9763CT5,SK2HJ4DT85CAK7632,ST975HK53DAQCQJ94,SA8643H9876DK42C8|sv|b|mb|1C|nt|othered1: UCCCLE has now won imps on 5 consecutive boards, but has not dented the BCOB lead.  |pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: it hard to come back...losing double digits and only winning single's|pg||
nt|petergill: 1@D = 4+ @D, 10-16 unbalanced |pg||
nt|petergill: 3@D weak |pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: Bold 3@H by Crouch. |pg||
nt|benjy: would you all bid on the west cards?|pg||
mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dQ|nt|atlantajon: there are 6 to take for N/S....|pg||
nt|mmmakela: that's heroic|pg||
pc|dK|nt|galadriel: Looks like a flat board|pg||
nt|mmmakela: never|pg||
nt|chick: pretty frisky with 12 points and a ragged spade suit|pg||
nt|boltonian2: W may pass, N will be very happy|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|galadriel: albeit in different contracts|pg||
nt|atlantajon: unless they try to clear spade suit|pg||
pc|cT|nt|benjy: i think i might pass as my @Ds look like they might be in the wrong place, although 1@D is not natural i think it is very close|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|galadriel: maybe not...|pg||
nt|petergill: West is a passed hand, and his partner has 2 diamonds at most, so 3@H cannot really backfire too much, I think. |pg||
nt|petergill: unless partner takes it as fit-showing!!!|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|mmmakela: excactly|pg||
nt|benjy: even if he does, surely 4@H is the call|pg||
pc|h6|nt|atlantajon: this will tell|pg||
nt|boltonian2: maybe not for too long, looks to be 1 off?|pg||
nt|granguru: S is glad to see the @H10 I expect|pg||
nt|boltonian2: 2@Hs, 1@S, @S ruff, @d|pg||
nt|boltonian2: hmm, maybe not|pg||
pc|h4|nt|atlantajon: score it up|pg||
nt|benjy: Pd can always correct|pg||
nt|petergill: 3@H alerted by West as fit-showing, but not thought to be by West, I think. |pg||
nt|benjy: One for the system agreements team|pg||
nt|vugraph8: He thought it was fit showing|pg||
nt|petergill: @SA?????|pg||
nt|petergill: no, not at all. |pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|petergill: West feeling not too good, as his diamonds turn to dust.  |pg||
nt|petergill: Reluctant to open up the club suit in case declarer has @CAQ, North switches to his heart. |pg||
nt|petergill: Glyn Liggins is one of England's greatest players. |pg||
nt|benjy: this will surely be another big swing to the Irish|pg||
nt|mmmakela: after @SA he'll swith to clubs|pg||
nt|petergill: England has fielded five pairs so far in the 2008 Camrose. Ireland have used three pairs. |pg||
nt|benjy: I am afraid i have to leave, enjoy the rest of the show everyone (COme on England!)|pg||
nt|petergill: Win @H9, spade to king, then what? That is what Glyn is thinking. But what else can he do?|pg||
nt|petergill: Bye Ben|pg||
pc|c9|nt|mmmakela: 2 now lavinthal|pg||
nt|chick: has to return @D for his ruff|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|nt|galadriel: At last...a double figure swing|pg||
nt|boltonian2: well, it is off, now|pg||
nt|chick: well, not if decl finesses the club :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: yes, not been Patersons match so far|pg||
pc|h5|nt|galadriel: Should N switch to a top @H?|pg||
nt|galadriel: Maybe not so easy|pg||
nt|ybob: i open N hand 1@H in 3º with any system|pg||
nt|atlantajon: yes...so do I|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I want a heart lead|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|nt|petergill: This Ireland team have done lots of barnstorming finishes - the 2008 Yeh Bros Cup a month ago, the last European Teams Championship in Warsaw, will this be another big Irish ...|pg||
nt|petergill: finish?|pg||
nt|petergill: To ruff or not to ruff?|pg||
nt|diumraid: **** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ****  ENGLAND 179,  IRELAND   179,  WALES  168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 123, N-IRELAND 100 **** INDIV MATCHES *****  CBAI 18  12 ENG  *****  N-IRL  15 15  ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: IRE  *****  WAL  15  15  SCOT  *****|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d8|nt|petergill: North is worried that declarer surely has @CAQ for the jump to 4@S. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: @H K was a bad play, shd see the situation|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d5|nt|granguru: @S8 asked for a @D|pg||
pc|s2|nt|petergill: Hence this defence. |pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|boltonian2: it was probably off anyhow|pg||
nt|granguru: which was obvious|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|nt|petergill: the time has come for a club - now. |pg||
pc|s6|nt|petergill: @CA to block the clubs might have been better. |pg||
nt|petergill: South has to infer that North's last spade is the jack, not a small one |pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|petergill: otherwise the play would have gone differently |pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2S9H743DT763CKJ872,SK8653HAJT2DJ9C43,SJ742HK86D42CQT95,SAQTHQ95DAKQ85CA6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1D|nt|Walddk2: Here the variation with clubs, 15-18 for them|pg||
mb|1H!|an|spades|nt|Walddk2: 1@H = spades|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|mareczek: probably they play "I show" the stopper when opponents have bid two suits|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|chmitty: whoever plays in 3NT will be pleased to drop Q@c so easily|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Nice treatment|pg||
nt|chmitty: well done|pg||
nt|Walddk2: When the opponents have bid *one* suit, a cue *asks* for a stopper; then they have bid *two*, you bid the suit with a stopper. NT if you stop them both|pg||
nt|vugraph9: discussion between Skrz and  verhees |pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|Walddk2: Verhees can use Skrz as a stepping stone to his 9th trick|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Onece clubs come in|pg||
pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: This was the early stepping stone so to speak|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But there was nothing he could do. He would have been put on lead with @SA and another once clubs have been cleared|pg||
nt|chmitty: Verhees knows long @c are by East from the bidding|pg||
nt|chmitty: 5@d only, 1@h, certainly not 5@s ...|pg||
nt|chmitty: so at least 3@c|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|nt|chmitty: and the danger is to loose 3@d 1@c and 1@h|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|chmitty: if you take the @dK|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: oops, now he can't make it any more|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|Walddk2: Pitching a spade was an error|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|chmitty: it was ... and the defence did not miss the opportunity|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|d7|nt|mareczek: defense made declarer's life as hard as possible |pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|c9|nt|mareczek: but if he decided to play @c from the top, should take @dK|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|h8|pg||
nt|Walddk2: another oops|pg||
mc|9|nt|mareczek: not to the last moment|pg||
pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2S9H743DT763CKJ872,SK8653HAJT2DJ9C43,SJ742HK86D42CQT95,SAQTHQ95DAKQ85CA6|sv|o|nt|petergill: hence South finds the best play of another club, not a heart. |pg||
nt|boltonian2: even after the @C switch|pg||
nt|boltonian2: hmm, another interesting one|pg||
nt|granguru: EW makes 3@D|pg||
nt|boltonian2: NS dont seem to be able to make much of anything|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: when Irish eyes are smiling ... beware the English |pg||
nt|boltonian2: although maybe they can make 3@S if they read the position right|pg||
nt|boltonian2: was never likely to be played at the 3 level this hand though|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|1D|nt|mmmakela: 4 @S now?|pg||
nt|granguru: 3N can be made if the defense dont cash @Cs immediately |pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2C|nt|mmmakela: lame|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: 4@S does not make. |pg||
mb|2H|nt|petergill: Good stop by the English. |pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: good stop|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|petergill: Only three apparent losers, but only 8 or 9 tricks in reality. |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|mmmakela: at least 3 and look at W's opening,dead minimum|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|boltonian2: @S switch is very obvious here unfortuntaely|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|d2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|cT|nt|petergill: At Trick 2, South's @C2 was suit preference for diamonds - neat, eh?|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|h5|pg||
nt|mmmakela: in the long run 4 @S THE bid|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|hT|mc|10|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SA98HQJT4D76432C8,SKJ54HA652DJ5CJ76,SQ62HDAKTCAKT9432,ST73HK9873DQ98CQ5|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|an|=1n|nt|Walddk2: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/  for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Open one browser window per table|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chmitty: and now ?|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|chmitty: 3rd seat opening can be done with nothing ... so you have to balance|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Especially non-vul vs vul|pg||
nt|chmitty: No de didn't lol :)|pg||
mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: Good evening to David Burn from England|pg||
nt|dburn: Hello|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Anything is possible because partner won't kill you, being a passed hand|pg||
nt|chmitty: hello david|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mareczek: I think dbl of 1NT would be superior to 2NT|pg||
nt|chmitty: Gierulski took the view that he wanted to try for vul game rather than collecting a penalty|pg||
nt|vugraph9: tray in strange place for  me sorry all |pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
nt|dburn: not quite clear why Verhees bid 1@s - isn't that a transfer in his methods?|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|chmitty: it is ... but Jansma decide to pass anyhow !|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
nt|chmitty: after his light 3rd seat opening|pg||
nt|dburn: maybe not by a passed hand|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c5|nt|dburn: by an unpassed hand, 1@h would show spades and 1@s would show hearts|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|chmitty: Verhees @c return makes life easy for declarer who will finesse @d10|pg||
nt|chmitty: if a @s is returned at trick two, declarer loses control by lack of entries to his hand|pg||
nt|dburn: but I guess it doesn't make sense to play that by a passed hand|pg||
nt|chmitty: "should" finesse @d 10 ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The Poles playing four-handed. Rubin - Ekeblad sitting out for the other team|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|Walddk2: Swing coming to Rubin in a minute|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SA98HQJT4D76432C8,SKJ54HA652DJ5CJ76,SQ62HDAKTCAKT9432,ST73HK9873DQ98CQ5|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: nothing but pain here for N/S|pg||
nt|petergill: Discipline by the English. No rushes of blood even after the disaster on Bd 7|pg||
nt|mmmakela: N has normally dbl stop in hearts|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|atlantajon: or E/w for that matter|pg||
mb|d|nt|petergill: 20-22|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: looks like lose a total of 300 for UCCLE....-100 other table and -200 here...does anyone see an 8th trick?|pg||
nt|petergill: East's values look too "soft" to try for slam. |pg||
nt|petergill: no aces, no tens, 4333, junk. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: most wd still look if 6@H might be on|pg||
nt|chick: 3N will be very lucky for N, E will likely lead a spade and then W with all the entries can't return them|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: maybe Rees figured that out :)|pg||
nt|boltonian2: yes this looks lucky on many levels, hearts breaking aswell|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|galadriel: No..it looks hopeless|pg||
nt|galadriel: With both hands balanced 24 hcp not enough for game|pg||
nt|chick: needs care here, the Q@C is his only entry to the hearts if W holds up|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|petergill: 10 = either J10xx(x) or HJ10x(x)|pg||
pc|cT|nt|galadriel: I can understand them bidding it though|pg||
nt|othered1: There are many different defenses to multi-type openings.  EW's here wasn't effective.  Others might have gotten EW a plus (on defense)|pg||
nt|vugraphu1: 2 @D show 6 @S or @S and a minor never @H|pg||
nt|atlantajon: I agree.....the system I use...would call for a pass with the west hand...then when it gets back to me @@ 2@s...I think I have a clear pass|pg||
nt|atlantajon: ok...thanks|pg||
pc|c9|nt|granguru: @H|pg||
nt|granguru: oopps|pg||
nt|chick: thanks John @H|pg||
nt|granguru: was private intended|pg||
nt|granguru: now everyone knows|pg||
nt|chick: hehe|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|petergill: Looks like 12 tricks. |pg||
pc|d3|nt|chick: I appreciate the helpful suggestion :)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|nt|othered1: Mine would double 2@D on west's hand.  but it might not be the best against this particular multi's possibilities, all of which involve @S type hands.|pg||
nt|atlantajon: agreed..|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
pc|c7|nt|granguru: yw|pg||
nt|chick: tough choice for rees ... if he ducks in hopes his pard has another spade, he won't get his spade tricks|pg||
nt|granguru: If he takes ..What should he continue?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|atlantajon: this might get deeper if west doesn't cash out|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||
nt|petergill: England are actually ahead, leading Ireland by 19 VPs coming into this match, and by 7 VPs right now, until Bd 7 is scored when it will be closer. |pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d9|mc|8|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SAKJ2HKDQJ754CKQ2,S7653H752DKT9CT94,S4HQJT963DA83CAJ6,SQT98HA84D62C8753|sv|b|nt|dburn: worked out rather well, this - if West had been playing 1NT, he might not have made it on a club lead|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Board 8 where 3NT made (it should not have in the end game). In the other room Jassem - Martens bid to a hopeless 5@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|2D!|an|hts|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|vugraph9: verhees,  "that pretty good"n|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s2|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
nt|chmitty: 11 tricks, thanks to the @d finesse created by the J@d lead|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sQ|mc|10|nt|chmitty: 10 only ??|pg||
nt|vugraph9: did not take @D finiesse |pg||
nt|chmitty: ok|pg||
nt|chmitty: strange|pg||
nt|vugraph9: only 10 double checked |pg||
nt|chmitty: ty shirley|pg||
pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SAKJ2HKDQJ754CKQ2,S7653H752DKT9CT94,S4HQJT963DA83CAJ6,SQT98HA84D62C8753|sv|b|nt|petergill: Sorry, I missed that - he did make 12 tricks in the ending, well done  |pg||
nt|mmmakela: cig br brb|pg||
nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 171, IRELAND 160, WALES 149, SCOTLAND 125, CBAI 109, N-IRELAND 83 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  11   19  IRL **** SCO 18  12 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI 11  19 WAL***|pg||
nt|petergill: Ordinary results by the Irish EW on Bds 4 and 5 put England ahead by 11 VPs. But Ireland have the easier draw in the last 32 board match, later today after this match ends. |pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|galadriel: Should be a straightforward 3NT|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|petergill: On Bd 9, 6@S or 6NT is somewhere around 50% chance, I guess. So the Irish EW, who will have a strong club style of auction, might bid it. |pg||
nt|petergill: 2@C perhasps a transfer to diamonds - I'|pg||
nt|petergill: m guessing. |pg||
nt|chick: diumraid has been popping around from room to room keeping us all up to date on the scores for this whole event.  The next time he pops in, we should all give him a big thank you!|pg||
nt|vugraph14: its a long walk between these rooms|pg||
mb|p|nt|mmmakela: so why not 3 @D?|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|chick: Hi Brid!  You're sure doing a great job as operator, keeping up with all of this :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: Even if NS don't lead clubs, I think North's 65 of spades will stop this contract from making. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: -1|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: What would you lead? A trump? A club? |pg||
nt|boltonian2: well this will enable a @C discard|pg||
pc|s4|nt|boltonian2: although, @C return might make things awkward|pg||
pc|sK|nt|galadriel: W leads the major without the A|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SQJ92HQT87DA942C9,SHAJ6542DJ7CAKQ62,SA764HK3D653CJ853,SKT853H9DKQT8CT74|sv|o|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: The bridge has been a little wayward in this set I think it's fair to say without offending anyone|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|r|nt|mareczek: rdbl=3 cards in hearts|pg||
mb|2D|mb|3D|mb|d|nt|mareczek: NS in trouble ...|pg||
nt|vugraph9: that is what is in the tray |pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|mareczek: 2@d doubled obout 4 down|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Maybe Gierulski will settle for 3NT, knowing that spades break badly|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: He did|pg||
nt|chmitty: you can make 3NT but not so easily|pg||
nt|vugraph9: Skrz,   reloooking at cards, has not passed |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chmitty: two ways available : make 4 tricks in @h which is quite reasonable on the bidding|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Excellent abbreviation, Shirley|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Try to pronounce it too   Skrz|pg||
nt|chmitty: or endplay south in @d so that he is forced to underlead K@s|pg||
nt|vugraph9: thx no way to type that everytime |pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dA|nt|chmitty: one option lost ...|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Gierulski should have a pretty good picture of the layout, so I think he will make it|pg||
nt|chmitty: Agree|pg||
nt|chmitty: if he plays @c now, and gets @d return he will first finesse the Q @h and come back in hand to finess the 9|pg||
nt|chmitty: and if he plays @h now he will underlead @cA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
nt|chmitty: as the J@h has been covered communications are easier|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|Walddk2: oops|pg||
nt|chmitty: we were wrong Roland|pg||
nt|Walddk2: He thought diamonds were 4-4 apparently|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: The free 2@D bid by Verhees|pg||
nt|vugraph9: just asked how many clubs|pg||
nt|chmitty: true that North bid 2@d free ... he did not expect with 3 cards only|pg||
nt|vugraph9: diamonds that is |pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SQJ92HQT87DA942C9,SHAJ6542DJ7CAKQ62,SA764HK3D653CJ853,SKT853H9DKQT8CT74|sv|o|nt|boltonian2: well played for a possible big loss|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|boltonian2: 4@H looks good|pg||
nt|boltonian2: may end in 3NT by E tho|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|petergill: He needed four spade tricks, so finessing the spade was the best play. |pg||
nt|petergill: 1Nt 14-16|pg||
mb|2D|nt|petergill: 2@C Stayman|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: Paterson-Short play a multi 2D that only shows a weak major, no strong option |pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|mmmakela: thought S would pass|pg||
nt|petergill: Passing 2@D - cute!|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: 1NT shows 5c @D|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: what else if u choose to bid 2 @C|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|petergill: I would have tried 2@H over 2@D, expecting partner to convert to 2@S if 3-2 in the majors. |pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|petergill: However, with the singleton queen, I think your idea of passing 1NT is probably best. |pg||
pc|c6|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 169, IRELAND 162, WALES 148, SCOTLAND 124, CBAI 109, N-IRELAND 84 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  9   21  IRL **** SCO 17  13 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI 12  18 WAL***|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***  ENGLAND 182,  IRELAND 180, WALES  168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 120, N-IRELAND  99 *** INDIV MATCHES ***  CBAI 15  15 ENG  *****  N-IRL  14 16  IRE  ***** ...|pg||
nt|diumraid:  WAL  15  15  SCOT  *****|pg||
nt|granguru: tks diumraid for all your effort|pg||
nt|boltonian2: S had little choice but to hope partner had the A@S, or Q at least, without it he knew the @Cs were running|pg||
nt|boltonian2: thank you|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|petergill: The anticipated 14 imps on Bd 7 reduce England's lead to about 5 VP's overall, with about 40 boards to go in this exciting Camrose. |pg||
nt|petergill: Make that 7 VP's|pg||
nt|petergill: England are stil,the favourites to win the event. The odds are about England 1.80, Ireland 2.18, I am told. |pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d7|nt|petergill: I cannot see any successful defence to beat 2@D|pg||
nt|chick: Thanks again diumraid!!  @H@H|pg||
pc|c5|nt|galadriel: So I guess it is safe to use 2@C as you wont be playing in a 3-2 fit|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|galadriel: I'm not sure I understand their methods!|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SJ7654HK63DJ9CAKQ,SQ3HAQ987DAQT3C95,SAKHJ52DK6CJT7432,ST982HT4D87542C86|sv|n|nt|chmitty: so let's give the credit to Verhees 2@d bid ?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I don't know what to say. I am a little disappointed with the play in a final like this|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Where all the best players in the world are gathered|pg||
nt|vugraph9: stilll discussing   diam and sp dbl |pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|vugraph9: Jansma telling Gierulski,  dont worry you have +17 imps|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2@D is natural, positive. 2@H natural, 2@S I don't know|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Maybe 4th suit of some kind|pg||
nt|mareczek: 2@d natural, GF|pg||
nt|mareczek: 2@s stopper, denies club stopper|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|mareczek: W must not have clubs after 1@c - 2@d - 2@h, can have @cxx|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|chmitty: Friendly @c position now|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|Walddk2: Curtains, diamonds breaking|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Next case|pg||
nt|chmitty: Sometimes after @c10 and @c9, south plays Ace, King etc ...|pg||
nt|chmitty: but not this time :)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dA|nt|Walddk2: Oh well, just made then|pg||
pc|d7|nt|Walddk2: He pitched a winner|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But to be fair, he did not know|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|nt|chmitty: Declarer could have played As @s and next @s to the !k : that creates an automatic @h@s squeeze|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c4|mc|9|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SJ7654HK63DJ9CAKQ,SQ3HAQ987DAQT3C95,SAKHJ52DK6CJT7432,ST982HT4D87542C86|sv|n|nt|petergill: so the Irish survived that little excursion into the 4-3 fit. |pg||
nt|petergill: Tommy Garvey and John Carroll have been in top form in this set, so far. |pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: Yes, a difficult choice for Amsel|pg||
nt|galadriel: I sympathise with 1NT|pg||
nt|galadriel: You don't really want to pass out 1@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: A bold preempt by Peter Crouch. |pg||
nt|chick: Kurbalija-Rees 2D shows either 6 diamonds or 5-5 minors|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|atlantajon: nice landing place|pg||
nt|ybob: win 2@H , lost 1NT|pg||
nt|petergill: a good idea as it happens, to push around an opponent who has a 19 count. |pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|petergill: North will surely bid 3@S. |pg||
pc|cA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|s6|nt|petergill: 3@S is doomed. Without the preemptive 3@D bid, NS would surely have gone plus on the board. |pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|petergill: A spade to the six is surely not going to happen, in real life?|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|petergill: 1@D showed 5+! D or 4441, making the 3@D preempt easy to find, at the suitable vulnerability. |pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hT|nt|galadriel: The room has filled with specs now and I'm getting lots of interesting comments...sorry if I can't reply to them all :-)|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|s5|nt|boltonian2: Rees can put short on the guess imediately here, by playing the @C, avoids any revealing discards |pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|boltonian2: not that they will discard anything revealing of course|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|mc|10|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SK8HK7642DA65CJ32,S94HAJ3DK843CQT74,SAT632H85DTCA9865,SQJ75HQT9DQJ972CK|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|d|mb|r|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Sigurbjörn Haraldsson from Iceland|pg||
mb|p|nt|bessi2: hi all|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|chmitty: If you go back to board 11, Jansma passed first hand a better hand than Verhees opened here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|vugraph9: verhees explained he liked his hand |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Jan will take his time here. This is not plain sailing|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Again, we do know that the banner is marked with 2006; apologies, but it's not the end of the world|pg||
nt|chmitty: some players like any 13 cards they have|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|chmitty: Meckwell for instance|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I didnd't matk it, but I am happy to take responsibility if that helps specs who seem to be annoyed|pg||
nt|chmitty: I've got to go now guys ... enjoy the show :) tx all :) |pg||
nt|mareczek: we do as much as possible for the joy of kibitzers, Roland :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Bye Pierre and thanks|pg||
nt|vugraph9: gierulski,  hand on head,  now looking at cards again |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Gierulski's line in 3NT before cost 10 IMPs|pg||
nt|vugraph9: the discussion after the hand was about the 2 @D bid |pg||
nt|Walddk2: I can imagine|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Declarer was absolutely certain that Verhees had four diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraph9: "we" are sill thinking here...|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|mareczek: still thinking or silly thinking? :)|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|bessi2: well defended by gielruski not giving declarer any help.. although it wont make any difference|pg||
pc|d3|mc|10|nt|vugraph9: sorry he took the ht hook|pg||
pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SK8HK7642DA65CJ32,S94HAJ3DK843CQT74,SAT632H85DTCA9865,SQJ75HQT9DQJ972CK|sv|b|nt|atlantajon: BCOB is going to Lap UCCLE if they are not careful|pg||
nt|petergill: Hi --- |pg||
nt|petergill: A little triumph for the English, their first one for a while. |pg||
nt|boltonian2: problem with pausing and not playing a club is that Short may have expected a @C switch straight away from a person that had the A@C|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|galadriel: This isn't the kind of board UCCLE are looking for|pg||
nt|mmmakela: w 3-3 majs maybe S shd just give up|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|mmmakela: on previous 3 @D |pg||
nt|petergill: Good thinking Markku, but highly risky - you might miss a vul game. |pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|petergill: I think playing @S10 from dummy would be a better play. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: despite the points playing strength wasn't good|pg||
nt|petergill: well, unless East plays the bare jack on it!|pg||
nt|petergill: Yes, and Qx in their suit was a good holding for defending. |pg||
mb|2N|nt|chick: The Camrose Trophy is competed for annually among the countries of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland under the auspices of the British Bridge League. The 1939 series ...|pg||
nt|chick: was not completed due to war. The Camrose re-started in 1946, so the series ending in March 2008 was the sixtiy-fifth. This makes the Camrose the most-played international bridge ...|pg||
nt|chick: series in the world.|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: Oh I thought they might get to @D |pg||
nt|atlantajon: I also|pg||
mb|3D|nt|galadriel: Seems no-one can bid @D naturally|pg||
nt|atlantajon: lol|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: Perhaps John Carroll played a bit fast there. He wanted to be in dummy to take the club finesse. |pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   ENGLAND 169, IRELAND 162, WALES 151, SCOTLAND 122, CBAI 107, N-IRELAND 86 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  9   21  IRL **** SCO 15  15 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI  9  21 WAL***|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: this time if they try to clear @h then its a maker|pg||
nt|petergill: If one thinks that @C7 is high, denying the king, then playing @CJ or @CQ from hand is better.  |pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
nt|petergill: I am being very picky - I can see all 52 cards and he can't, and he expected the opening bidder to have @CK. |pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|c6|nt|galadriel: We lost @C already now @Ds are on the way out|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d5|nt|petergill: -200, it seems|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s6|nt|mmmakela: 100|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|s7|mc|10|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SA2HA6DA65CAJ8752,SKQ43HT9432DQ87C9,SJ96H87DKJ43CKQ43,ST875HKQJ5DT92CT6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 3NT with serrious problems|pg||
nt|mareczek: now he can bid 2@h 19+,5+@h|pg||
nt|mareczek: or 1NT 18-21 or 2NT 22-23|pg||
nt|Walddk2: serious  even|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|mareczek: I bet for 2NT|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: He has to keep Jansma off lead, and I think he can|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But it takes a special dummy play|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|mareczek: @cAQ - overtake, @dJ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes|pg||
nt|bessi2: he can definately make it double dummy but must take an extraordiary view in the play|pg||
nt|mareczek: they must duck, then heart finesse and @dA and a @d?|pg||
nt|mareczek: and @h finesse, gives 9 tricks|pg||
nt|mareczek: it is difficult to find single dummy|pg||
nt|mareczek: percentage play is for @h 3-3 and @hK at N hand|pg||
nt|mareczek: I think|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The clubs are not high if he overtakes, as some specs point out. He will leave the jack stranded in the dummy|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is a very complex hand|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Natural line in my view|pg||
nt|othered1: he's taking your line, Marek.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Can't fault declarer for choosing it|pg||
nt|bessi2: i wonder what he can be thinking about now|pg||
nt|vugraph9: back in thought,  and not particulary happy face |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Karen Allison from USA|pg||
nt|kareno: Hi to all from Las Vegas.  Roland :)|pg||
nt|vugraph9: has had several cards out of hand then puts them back |pg||
nt|kareno: Shirley :)  |pg||
nt|bessi2: to late to change his line now|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|nt|kareno: I haven't seen you in this role, Shirley - what a pleasure!!|pg||
nt|mareczek: full blooded|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|mareczek: decided to play fo @hKx at N!|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|c5|nt|bessi2: aha..... gutsy play by gielrulski.. he did get the distribution of the hearts correctly at least|pg||
nt|kareno: Marek :) Sigburbjorn :)|pg||
nt|mareczek: hi :)|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SA2HA6DA65CAJ8752,SKQ43HT9432DQ87C9,SJ96H87DKJ43CKQ43,ST875HKQJ5DT92CT6|sv|o|nt|petergill: @S10 at Trick 1 and he would have gone -1, -100, I think. So no big deal. |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|petergill: 2@S = 5+ spades, weak|pg||
mb|3N|nt|petergill: 4@S = perhaps I am not so weak after all. |pg||
nt|mmmakela: doesn't look very weak to mee|pg||
nt|mmmakela: yet another bal to making game|pg||
nt|petergill: The Irish liking for bidding has helped EW reach two 4@S games now.  |pg||
nt|petergill: North thinking of saving!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: 5@D costs 300. |pg||
pc|s8|nt|petergill: Now he will safety play the spades, ace and another , for 420. |pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|mmmakela: almost criminal weak 2 imo|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|chick: ugh, short found a great switch and paterson didn't follow through|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|cT|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d7|nt|atlantajon: Looks like this is the last board for this session in the open room....thanks all|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d8|nt|atlantajon: Thanks Roberto, Anne, Ed and Steve  :)|pg||
nt|galadriel: Thanks to everyone, especially specs :-)|pg||
nt|ybob: thx all :) bye|pg||
nt|galadriel: Bye for now|pg||
nt|atlantajon: any red card will get N/S another trick|pg||
nt|atlantajon: thanks Anne|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1SKQ4HKQ95DJT2CAT2,S92HAJT2DA764C654,S7H8763DQ5CKQJ973,SAJT8653H4DK983C8|sv|n|mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|kareno: Looks like 4@s should make e/w.  n/s a little outgunned vul to compete.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|kareno: Declarer will have to be careful but ten tricks should be there.|pg||
nt|mareczek: the simpliest way is to take the ace and play @dA, small @d to prepare the ruff, for \safet cash one round of trumps earlier|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|nt|bessi2: he must be thinking about the overtrick i suppose|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|c5|nt|kareno: Yes, exactly.  Play diamonds before trumps.. can ruff with the king.|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|kareno: Now it's even easier for declarer.  Pull trumps and concede a club.,|pg||
mc|12|nt|Walddk2: Last board of the set coming up|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thanks to Shirley Ybarra, our wonderful operator in Detroit!|pg||
nt|kareno: This really should be a push.  |pg||
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qx|c31|st||md|1SKQ4HKQ95DJT2CAT2,S92HAJT2DA764C654,S7H8763DQ5CKQJ973,SAJT8653H4DK983C8|sv|n|nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg||
nt|petergill: The 20 imps to Ireland on Bds 9 and 10 makes the overall scores very close now.  |pg||
nt|vugraph14: Penultimate board here now |pg||
nt|chick: Thanks for a great job, Thomas @H|pg||
mb|2D|nt|Walddk7: 15 and 16 in this room first; then comparisons from the closed room when we roll over to board 1|pg||
nt|Walddk7: Hello Anne, Ed and Dirk|pg||
nt|didev: hi|pg||
nt|atlantajon: Hello all|pg||
nt|Walddk7: and welcome to Jonathan Slaney from USA|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|Walddk7: 2@C weak with both majors we assume|pg||
nt|boltonian2: thanks|pg||
mb|p|nt|didev: agressive youngsters|pg||
nt|diumraid: *** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***  ENGLAND 183,  IRELAND 180, WALES  168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 119, N-IRELAND  99 *** INDIV MATCHES ***  CBAI 14  16 ENG  *****  N-IRL  14 16  IRE  ***** ...|pg||
nt|diumraid:  WAL  15  15  SCOT  *****|pg||
mb|4S|nt|Walddk7: Maybe not since Cornelis went for hearts|pg||
nt|othered1: Wonder why the jump in the shorter suit?|pg||
nt|granguru: NS could have made 2@H|pg||
nt|boltonian2: i think S should bid 2@H|pg||
nt|vugraph14: If could not open it is it not dangerous to bid vul v non now?|pg||
nt|boltonian2: although, I would also open that hand|pg||
nt|chick: I dunno, broken suit vul|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: 4 Hearts seems a lot|pg||
nt|petergill: England led by 19 VPs before this match, and are now losing 6-24 or 5-25. Bookies would say: Ireland 1.75, England 2.25, Wales 20.00 to win the Camrose now. |pg||
mb|p|nt|didev: prob conventional|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES *****   IRELAND 166, ENGLAND 165, WALES 151, SCOTLAND 123, CBAI 107, N-IRELAND 85 *****   INDIV MATCHES ****  ENG  5   25  IRL **** SCO 16  14 N-IRL ...|pg||
nt|diumraid: ****  CBAI  9  21 WAL***|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s3|nt|galadriel: Good afternoon all :-)|pg||
nt|atlantajon: Hello Anne|pg||
nt|didev: hi Anne|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|petergill: At those odds, the audience want to back England. |pg||
pc|d6|nt|galadriel: EW can always makw 4 of a minor I think|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pg||
nt|galadriel: So good start for NS|pg||
nt|didev: yes prob more IMPs to BCOB|pg||
pc|cA|nt|atlantajon: correct 2@h and 1@s only|pg||
pc|d3|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|s7|pc|h6|pg||
nt|petergill: @HJ fooled someone - not the intended victim!|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SJ87HA9543DKJT75C,S2HQ87DQ864C96542,SK5HJT2DA3CKQJT73,SAQT9643HK6D92CA8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|Walddk2: and to our many excellent commentators who guided us through the 16 boards|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|kareno: Thanks always to Roland Wald, our tireless organizer, for filling the rooms with expert commentators for you!!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Finally our appreciation to ACBL and Rick Beye in particular for ensuring that this prestigious event is brought to BBO vugraph and inviting us to participate|pg||
mb|2H|nt|mareczek: now NS can be too high in hearts|pg||
nt|mareczek: 7 tricks is the limit |pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Light opening useful for lead direction and competition.|pg||
pc|hK|nt|Walddk2: We can't be certain when the 2nd quarter will start, but my estimate is 15-20 minutes aftrer the last board has been played in the room that finishes last|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Hope to see you all back then|pg||
nt|bessi2: very well done by Gielruski to compete here to the making 3d|pg||
nt|mareczek: 3@d makes|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
nt|kareno: Nine tricks will be eked out with the useful placement of a couple of cards.|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|kareno: South knows that  north played his LOWEST heart on the second trick, suit preference for clubs.|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
nt|kareno: Now there's only to hope diamonds split (and they do) and claim.|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|mc|9|nt|Walddk2: Thanks to all spectators for much useful information; much appreciated|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Bye for now, back soon|pg||
nt|kareno: Don't give up your seats, specs :)|pg||
nt|vugraph9: see you soon |pg||
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