vg|Gold Cup 2008,Final 4,I,1,32,Collins,60,De Botton,54| rs|,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,6DS=,6DS=,4SW-3,3SE-1,1NE+1,2SW+2,1NE+1,4HN-2,4SW=,4SW=,5DS-1,3DS+1,3NW-2,3NE-1,3SS-3,4SS-1| pn|Stuart T,Jason H,Gerald T,Justin H,Burn,Patterson,Sandqvist,Collins|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SKHA9DAQJ987543CA,SQT754HQ4D2CJ8762,SAJ962HK873DCKQT9,S83HJT652DKT6C543|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|h3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c2|pc|c9|mc|11|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SKHA9DAQJ987543CA,SQT754HQ4D2CJ8762,SAJ962HK873DCKQT9,S83HJT652DKT6C543|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|capercliff: interesting table here|pg|| nt|col3435: hi everyone|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|capercliff: teamates in Beijing|pg|| nt|bobh1: hello everyone|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hello everyone and welcome back to Peebles in Scotland for the Gold Cup 2008. Final, 8 segments of 8 boards. This is the fourth|pg|| nt|capercliff: hey folks|pg|| nt|mcphee: good day all|pg|| mb|3N|nt|ahh: hi everyone |pg|| nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg|| mb|p|nt|capercliff: hi Bob|pg|| mb|4D|nt|benjy: 3@H short suit try?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Your commentators are Cliff Gillis, David Collier and Bob McPhee|pg|| nt|col3435: my goodness, this looks like a strong jump shift, I thought those were extinct|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Our operator is Margaret Pemble|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|benjy: 4@S will make with the miracle @C layout|pg|| nt|capercliff: looks like it|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: sorry about that glitch|pg|| nt|ahh: lead of 35 only 8 boards left |pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: S thinking|pg|| mb|4N|nt|bobh1: yes not a great game but perhaps should be bid at imps|pg|| nt|ahh: big ask to get it back |pg|| mb|p|nt|capercliff: 3@h didnt exactly improve South's hand|pg|| mb|5D|nt|mcphee: was just thinking the same|pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: Townsend has a lot of wastage, but should he bid the game anyway because of his void?|pg|| mb|6D|nt|benjy: his pd does have a 13 count after all|pg|| nt|xenya: 4@H looks a bit too ambitious|pg|| mb|p|nt|xenya: as does 5@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|capercliff: if 3@c was bid by N as a natural game try, he may just|pg|| nt|ahh: should he try 4@S if he was going to bid again |pg|| mb|p|nt|bobh1: always difficult to evaluate voids but my philosophy is when in doubt bid game (at imps)|pg|| nt|mcphee: it sure fits this hand, so wonderful to have it available|pg|| pc|c6|nt|bobh1: i don't think the colors are that relevant|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|s2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s4|pc|s6|mc|12|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S9HT8543DKQ5CQ754,SKJ86HQD73CAJ9863,SAT73HA7DJ8642CK2,SQ542HKJ962DAT9CT|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s6|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|c8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|c7|pc|sK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S9HT8543DKQ5CQ754,SKJ86HQD73CAJ9863,SAT73HA7DJ8642CK2,SQ542HKJ962DAT9CT|sv|b|nt|capercliff: maybe not pushing non-vul|pg|| nt|ahh: if @D 3-1 then 4@H makes |pg|| nt|mcphee: do not recall the last time I held a 9 card suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|capercliff: this is a game they wont miss|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|ahh: might see some swing making as its now 44 and 7 |pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|capercliff: 1@d promises a 4 card major im told|pg|| nt|col3435: ok that would explain it|pg|| mb|p|nt|capercliff: double from N should show 2 fast @h losers|pg|| nt|capercliff: or maybe not...|pg|| mb|p|nt|col3435: then 2@c = 5+@c and 4@s|pg|| nt|mcphee: and 1@C is what do you know?|pg|| nt|capercliff: big|pg|| pc|dK|nt|mcphee: would like to be in game here most days|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| nt|ahh: cards lie well for declarer |pg|| nt|ahh: cant see a way to go down |pg|| nt|col3435: yes. maybe not today though.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|nt|benjy: he needed to lead a @C to get their @D ruff|pg|| nt|ahh: i say that in the hope we get a swing to make things interesting |pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d5|nt|bobh1: a lot of imps swung on the defense|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|capercliff: West cant really move if 3@s in invitational|pg|| nt|mcphee: getting lucky game fails|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|benjy: i have a lot of sympathy with the lead|pg|| nt|xenya: unfortunately (?) he can't go down|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|s2|nt|capercliff: should Townsend bid 5@s?|pg|| nt|benjy: no|pg|| nt|bobh1: me too, but it cost 8 or so|pg|| nt|benjy: could easily have 2 aces and a @C loser|pg|| nt|bobh1: the only argument against a @s lead is that's what they were expecting|pg|| nt|capercliff: I think he is very close|pg|| nt|benjy: they weren't expecting anything they guessed to sacrifice|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|hK|nt|xenya: and he would have been quite unlucky to go down on a different layout|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|h7|pg|| nt|bobh1: they were expecting a @s lead|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|c8|nt|bobh1: so maybe that's a reason to try something else|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|mcphee: defenders trump spots just enough to beat game|pg|| nt|col3435: well he's going down in 3 now|pg|| pc|sA|nt|capercliff: had it been red vs green 5@s is clear imop|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| nt|mcphee: yes, so a great pass!|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|col3435: I would have bid game, I must admit - difficult to evaluate a 6-4 so might as well take a shot|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S94HA843DJ963CT97,S8753HJ95DT5CA542,SKJ6HQ72DK72CKJ63,SAQT2HKT6DAQ84CQ8|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d3|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S94HA843DJ963CT97,S8753HJ95DT5CA542,SKJ6HQ72DK72CKJ63,SAQT2HKT6DAQ84CQ8|sv|o|nt|vugraphzdc: no down 2|pg|| nt|xenya: no swing|pg|| nt|ahh: so 44 behind and 6 left |pg|| nt|mcphee: vulnerable for sure|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: action here |pg|| nt|xenya: and a poor score for the trailing team from the other room|pg|| mb|1C|nt|xenya: might be duplicated though... ah hardly now|pg|| nt|ahh: about to get worse as well |pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|xenya: E to rescue|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahh: in normal circumstances i would expect north to bid 4@S but he has to try things now |pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahh: game over i fear |pg|| nt|ahh: Sandgvist had no qualms about putting the boot in |pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: he found double of 5@C next door|pg|| mb|p|nt|capercliff: fun hand this|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|ahh: i need to mind my Gs and Qs|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|c7|nt|mcphee: Q@H lead cost nothing really|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d5|nt|capercliff: X 5@d would have been the winning action|pg|| pc|d2|nt|xenya: the double is hardly obligatory here, but if N was trying things it looks more than appealing|pg|| nt|ahh: over 3@S i might have bid 3nt to try something in a hopeless cause |pg|| pc|dQ|nt|benjy: Impossible to do that though|pg|| nt|capercliff: indeed|pg|| nt|benjy: Would you guys have biud 3@S with Jason's hand over 3@D?|pg|| nt|benjy: it is very close in my opinion|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|col3435: well it has given West more entries|pg|| pc|dA|nt|capercliff: i would|pg|| nt|mcphee: looks like 10 tricks were possible if he ran the @C to the Q|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|s3|nt|capercliff: depends how constructive they play it|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S6HK985DJ62CKT842,SA43H762DT7CAQ965,SK9752HAQT4DK94CJ,SQJT8HJ3DAQ853C73|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|h2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c4|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c8|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S6HK985DJ62CKT842,SA43H762DT7CAQ965,SK9752HAQT4DK94CJ,SQJT8HJ3DAQ853C73|sv|n|nt|mcphee: no lead was attractive from N that hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|hedyg: hello:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bobh1: unless 2n is GF it is a v risky bid|pg|| nt|capercliff: 1@h here?|pg|| nt|ahh: hi Hedy|pg|| nt|xenya: hello Hedy|pg|| mb|2H|nt|hedyg: good evening all|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|bobh1: with that good a hand, how can you not drive to game?|pg|| mb|4H|nt|benjy: why is it risky? it is a normal limit bid|pg|| nt|capercliff: with 9x @s as well|pg|| nt|bobh1: no it had to be forcing--otherwise why would N bid on?|pg|| mb|p|nt|xenya: declarer facing a nasty distribution here|pg|| nt|hedyg: my where to start?|pg|| nt|ahh: played other way round on @C lead would be more testing |pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: you have a bad 15 with no source of tricks and if pd can hold this kind of hand why is it so wrong?|pg|| mb|p|pc|c7|nt|mcphee: this is going down quickly|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: error on the way i claimed last, scosre cosrrected 10 trix|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|bobh1: can you explain why N bid 3n?|pg|| pc|dT|nt|hedyg: going there.....|pg|| nt|xenya: jolt|pg|| nt|ahh: ah well declarer found the @C lead |pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| pc|d4|nt|xenya: no way to make it now|pg|| nt|ahh: this is what we need another 4 boards like this |pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|nt|benjy: It is possible that Gold reasoned that Townsend would need the @S for 2NT so he bid 3NT, who knows|pg|| nt|bobh1: i think it's much more likely they play 2n as forcing which is not a bad idea|pg|| nt|capercliff: 3N not really an option for me, why not 3@d or even 3@s?|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|hedyg: wishing he had the @d lead|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|hedyg: ruffed*|pg|| pc|d3|nt|ahh: 2 off makes swing 11 |pg|| nt|ahh: 1 off is 10|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h2|nt|benjy: 3@S may well be to play as they play strong jump overcalls|pg|| nt|capercliff: 3@s may promise 6, but 5@d is a possibility|pg|| nt|hedyg: playing @H cant be right with all the ruffing he needs to do|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|capercliff: Tom certainly had @h stopped:)|pg|| pc|h4|nt|xenya: declarer coud hardly expect the @CA would be ruffed, especially after the @D9 lead|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|hedyg: -2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3S43HAJ6432D542CQ8,SAKJT865H9DAT96C7,SQ7HQ7DKJ83CAJ954,S92HKT85DQ7CKT632|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3S43HAJ6432D542CQ8,SAKJT865H9DAT96C7,SQ7HQ7DKJ83CAJ954,S92HKT85DQ7CKT632|sv|b|mb|1C|nt|capercliff: strange N didnt bid 3@d in the other room|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|4S|nt|ahh: the difference is now the answer to everything so only 10.5 imps per bd for a tie |pg|| nt|hedyg: only :)|pg|| nt|ahh: aint going to do it playing in 1nt |pg|| nt|hedyg: might go for cause needs imps|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|capercliff: after 2NT much easier |pg|| nt|hedyg: no 10.5 imps here|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h4|nt|ahh: and thats half the battle to get 42 back 1st you need the boards to be swingy 2nd you need to create swings |pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahh: normal actions arent enough |pg|| nt|ahh: that is likely to be flat boards|pg|| nt|hedyg: needs 1 @s trick to make this if @cs dont roll|pg|| nt|mcphee: this can make with careful play|pg|| pc|h7|nt|mcphee: trump looks best from up here in the gallery|pg|| pc|h8|nt|capercliff: 6 is cold, but not biddable|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c7|nt|bobh1: amazing that S gave up so easily|pg|| pc|cA|nt|xenya: yes, it seems N should have tried for 3N|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ahh: so you need to mix it up and pray usually it means you lose by a barrell load but once in a blue moon the caeds cooperate and you get very very drunk in the bar |pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: sorry lost this one|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok Margaret np|pg|| nt|xenya: not that it ever makes, with both minors 4-2|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|mcphee: powerful 9@S delivered from Collins|pg|| pc|c9|nt|capercliff: im told they are in 6 in the other room!|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|d6|pg|| nt|capercliff: he will still have 1@s in dummy after ruffing a @d|pg|| nt|capercliff: but he would probably play for the drop anyway|pg|| pc|d7|nt|capercliff: 3@c must have shown a minimum|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|s3|nt|mcphee: wd|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|mc|10|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SAK75HA5DK98632C2,S6432HKJ94DT5CAQ6,SQJ8H732DQJ4CKT85,ST9HQT86DA7CJ9743|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SAK75HA5DK98632C2,S6432HKJ94DT5CAQ6,SQJ8H732DQJ4CKT85,ST9HQT86DA7CJ9743|sv|o|nt|capercliff: David went on regardless of minimum|pg|| mb|p|nt|capercliff: in the other room|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|bobh1: this, along with 25, makes 2 boards where conservative bidding by NS may be costly|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|capercliff: 6@s again anyone?|pg|| nt|capercliff: 5@d can make on a non @h lead|pg|| nt|mcphee: 2@S a big bid|pg|| nt|capercliff: or 4@s for that matter probably|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|col3435: that's odd isn't it|pg|| pc|h4|nt|col3435: you'd think if South showed a good hand, North would be delighted|pg|| nt|mcphee: i thot 3@D created a GF|pg|| nt|capercliff: N didnt think 3@d was being passed|pg|| pc|h2|nt|col3435: maybe North thought that too|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|nt|capercliff: if N had a 4th @d this would be trickier|pg|| nt|hedyg: nonslam|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|capercliff: 6 that is|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|mc|11|nt|hedyg: @c finesse|pg|| nt|capercliff: good lead to hold it to 10|pg|| pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SJ8HKT9542D7CT543,SATH83DAQJ652CK76,SQ9542HJDKT94CAJ9,SK763HAQ76D83CQ82|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|s6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|mc|7|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SJ8HKT9542D7CT543,SATH83DAQJ652CK76,SQ9542HJDKT94CAJ9,SK763HAQ76D83CQ82|sv|n|nt|benjy: looks like he did take the ruff|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: no I must have got play wrong|pg|| nt|capercliff: must have|pg|| nt|hedyg: only 10 yes|pg|| nt|hedyg: cannot ruff 2 losers with 1 @s|pg|| nt|capercliff: oh 11?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: score correct|pg|| nt|capercliff: looks like 3N|pg|| nt|col3435: 11 seems unlikely, doesn't it. let's say it was 10.|pg|| mb|2N|nt|col3435: so in this system, 2@d shows an opening hand and denies a 4-card major|pg|| nt|mcphee: i suppose 2@D denies a 4 card major |pg|| nt|capercliff: we have seen these 2m last set, intermediate|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|capercliff: tx Margaret|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: these guys v fast|pg|| nt|capercliff: yes:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzdc: 1i was 10 sorry|pg|| pc|h5|nt|hedyg: the lost @c|pg|| nt|capercliff: and yes, no 4M|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|benjy: declarer will probably make 10 tricks here|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|benjy: 9 after the @H ruff|pg|| nt|mcphee: @H lead costly this time|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mamos: sorry all the late mike amos|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ahh: al over now our congratulations to the De botton team comiserations to Townsend and co i am sure they will be back |pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d8|nt|benjy: spec points out that 3NT by e/w would also make 9 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: certainly!|pg|| nt|capercliff: a 1c lead was best, but even that wouldnt break this|pg|| pc|h4|nt|capercliff: good morning Mike:)|pg|| nt|capercliff: @c|pg|| nt|mcphee: not clear as it seems to be in trouble now|pg|| pc|dA|nt|benjy: looks cold to me, but how to get there?|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|capercliff: de Botton team pulling away this set|pg|| nt|bobh1: for one thing, E could bid again with full opening values and a fit for his pd's suit|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|capercliff: odd for the Hackett's to pass the W hand|pg|| pc|h8|nt|vugraphzdc: Nick thinking|pg|| nt|mcphee: Nick is in deep do do|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d2|nt|capercliff: 10x 10x must have persuaded him not to|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|capercliff: -1 now|pg|| pc|c5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s9|mc|8|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SQJT82HAJDA9752C6,S9HKQ75DQT43CKT95,S653HT9864DCAJ842,SAK74H32DKJ86CQ73|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|sT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c9|pc|h9|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SQJT82HAJDA9752C6,S9HKQ75DQT43CKT95,S653HT9864DCAJ842,SAK74H32DKJ86CQ73|sv|e|nt|benjy: consider the hacketts open anything i don't think justin's hand is even close to moving|pg|| nt|ahh: thx to Margaret Pemble our great operator in Peebles thanks to Vladimir Ivanov and Hedy Grey for their comments our appreciation to BGB and the SBU for setting up this broadcast ...|pg|| nt|ahh: the final is tomorrow morning between De Botton and Collins 10 am UK 11am Paris 2am Los Angeles 5am New York 9 pm Sydney|pg|| nt|hedyg: only 8 i think|pg|| nt|hedyg: and to you Jim!|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, just 8 tricks|pg|| nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: thanks everyone - nice to see you at Peebles|pg|| nt|hedyg: Margaret bd 31 2@H=|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: pls correct it|pg|| mb|p|nt|capercliff: right|pg|| nt|bobh1: they are in a conservative mood in the British isles this morning|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|mcphee: a raise coming|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: quite a 2@s bid|pg|| mb|4S|nt|vugraphzdc: they all badly want to win this match - much needle|pg|| nt|mcphee: oh 3@S a bit heavy perhaps|pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: Erichsen opened the hand in the Open room and so they bid game and 8 imps to Townsend|pg|| mb|p|nt|capercliff: some might say that this IS the final, as the winner will be heavy favorites to win it all|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: yes indeed|pg|| nt|mamos: along history of favourites losing the final|pg|| nt|capercliff: sure Mike, anything can happen|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: seer you soon|pg|| nt|Walddk4: This was quick|pg|| nt|xenya: quite a double|pg|| nt|capercliff: so is 4@s|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|nt|hedyg: did Erichsen really double?|pg|| nt|ahh: notice the top heavy 2@S response its because they open such rubbish |pg|| nt|mcphee: wonder if he is expecting a 4th trump|pg|| pc|h4|nt|xenya: sure|pg|| nt|capercliff: trump lead was required|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| nt|capercliff: this might sneak home now|pg|| nt|mcphee: some kibs feel E might have dbled |pg|| nt|mcphee: which might have attracted a trump lead|pg|| nt|capercliff: i can only count 9 tricks|pg|| nt|col3435: you mean West?|pg|| nt|capercliff: if S starts a cross ruff|pg|| nt|col3435: East has nothing like a double|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg|| nt|col3435: South could have a much better hand|pg|| nt|mcphee: I do not think Collins should dble|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|s3|nt|vugraphzdc: i may not have the auction wuite right but N in 3H - everything happened at once here|pg|| nt|hedyg: he cant be thinking|pg|| nt|xenya: looks like -2 here -- for a push|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty all|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: thanks everyone|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|capercliff: another @h may have given fefence a problem|pg|| nt|capercliff: defence|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|s8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|s6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|capercliff: undo|pg|| nt|mcphee: the end of the road has been reached |pg|| nt|mcphee: i do not think Patterson failed to win the @H|pg|| nt|vugraphzdc: nor do I|pg|| nt|capercliff: had declarer ducked trick 1, would W have continued?|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|h8|pc|sA|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphzdc: restart 15:10|pg|| nt|capercliff: if 1@d showed at least 1 4M, then W would know it must be @s|pg|| nt|mcphee: i am not clear what 3@S was supposed to be, generally played as pre-emptive|pg|| nt|mcphee: and N does not look pre-emptive to me at all|pg|| nt|mcphee: thkx all|pg|| pg||