vg|2008 Cavendish Teams,Match 7,I,1,9,Welland,0,Altshuler,0| rs|6HN-1,4SS+1,3CS-2,2SW+2,3NN+1,3NN+1,5CW=,5CW=,3CN-2,2HW=,3NE-1,3NE=,4SW-1,4SW-1,4SW+2,7SW-1,3HS-3,3HS-3| pn|Welland,Lev,Meckstroth,Pepsi,Altschuler,Drijver,Birman,Brink|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAQT75HAT9D962CK7,SJ86H753DAJ54C863,SK3HKQJ64DKQT7CQ5,S942H82D83CAJT942|sv|o|nt|aldek: Niestety nie mam polskich czcionek, mam nadzieje ze jakos dam sobie rade|pg|| nt|tmice: 2half: Bergen ABK - Kristiansand BK|pg|| mb|1H|nt|garden2005: x = starsza czwórka i m³odsza pi¹tka|pg|| nt|bouncer: ok lets hope ther are more dynamite in the cards now:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|garden2005: dzieñ dobry wszystkim|pg|| nt|bouncer: 4@S and a longer minor |pg|| nt|tmice: well it might be dynamite allready...:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: hoi|pg|| nt|bouncer: ER du sjef sten?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|sommer: and still -50 may be a good result for EW!|pg|| nt|bouncer: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|Walddk7: Bonjour à tous|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|bouncer: Nice shot from Molberg|pg|| nt|sten: well, probably 1 down|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Still waiting for Marstrander to lead|pg|| nt|liujing: 3@C ÅäºÏÏÔʾ½Ð|pg|| mb|p|nt|aldek: latwa koncowka|pg|| nt|bouncer: Marstrander and Andersen play very aggresiv bridge|pg|| mb|4H|nt|bouncer: who is Egil of them homme?|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: Resultats apres 7 tours: 1er Galinsky Courrias 635 2eme Malarme Chauvelot 622 3eme Grosset Chassagne 573 4eme Bessis Gaviard 565 5eme Vinay Seguineau 542|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: lot of work to do..if this can make|pg|| nt|hedyg: link for results http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/liveticker/08_04_30_team.html|pg|| nt|tmice: Both with M :)|pg|| nt|Walddk5: http://www.bridge.no/1273/Resultater.html for running scores in all four matches|pg|| nt|bouncer: yup:)|pg|| nt|Walddk5: East is Egil|pg|| nt|bouncer: ok,tx|pg|| nt|vugraph117: North thought they were using negative X|pg|| mb|5H|nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|hedyg: @c lead doesnt help|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph117: test|pg|| mb|6H|nt|Walddk5: Operator, could you pls give E-W initials? E. M. thanks|pg|| nt|tmice: Standings: http://nbfdata.bridge.no/Turnering/default.asp?Fil=10731050 before this match..|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sommer: no, it needs a misdefence ..ie @H duck:) with @HA|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Tøndel is thinking about the lead|pg|| nt|aldek: Witaj Grzesiu, Roland poslal mnie do zamknietego pokoju zeby moj polski wyprobowac|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Thanks|pg|| nt|bouncer: well,if they are in 4@S in OR u need to play careful|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|nt|tmice: well he found the J@s...|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|garden2005: znasz znakomicie, witaj :)|pg|| nt|bouncer: was easy now yes:)|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAQT75HAT9D962CK7,SJ86H753DAJ54C863,SK3HKQJ64DKQT7CQ5,S942H82D83CAJT942|sv|o|nt|sybarra: my fellow commentator is Frank Budai from Australia, guess its good evening to you Frank |pg|| nt|mcphee: and we are off!|pg|| nt|h_karluk: you may watch all rooms same time|pg|| nt|vugraph35: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/index.html|pg|| nt|vugraph35: for all results :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Guten Morgen Merle, rehi|pg|| nt|vugraph35: welcome back!|pg|| nt|vugraph35: welcome to our final segment!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: welcome back in Bonn|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good morning everyone and welcome back to Stavanger for the Norwegian Club Team Championships. Seven rounds of 32-board matches; this is the second half of a match from round 3|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to GeO Tislevoll, Thomas Nylund and Kenneth Skov, all from Norway|pg|| nt|tmice: Hi all|pg|| nt|geot: Hi frds, welcome|pg|| nt|kskov: hi all|pg|| nt|tmice: I see that Peter and Rune is out in this second halv...|pg|| nt|vugraph119: play now :)|pg|| nt|aupillon: hi all|pg|| nt|flash: http://www.cavendishinvitational.com/webcam/2/live.jpg|pg|| nt|flash: we've started the tournament with the John Roberts Teams|pg|| nt|flash: this is an invitational event, with 20 teams competing; the entry fee is a modest $US 10,000 per team; the prize pool is calculated from the entries only; there is no auction|pg|| nt|flash: 1st place - $52,010; 2nd - 37,150; 3rd - 26,748; 4th - 19,318; 5th - 13,374; $10,000 prize for best third session not in the overalls|pg|| nt|flash: pls note this last prize - it is an unusual incentive, designed to give all the teams in the event a shot at winning back their entry fee, no matter how badly things went yesterday|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Basically a 15-15 to 30-0 VP scale where at the lower end 1 imps is 1VP|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: 16VP is 25-5 so you tend to cherish the overtricks|pg|| mb|1H|nt|frankaus: g'day all|pg|| nt|flash: the defenders in this event are Gaylor Kasle - John Diamond, Drew Casen - Jim Krekorian and Neil Chambers - John Schermer; this team has returned to defend its title, but its hopes ...|pg|| nt|flash: were dealt a severe blow by a 6th-round loss to Hauge|pg|| mb|3C|nt|tmice: halv=half..|pg|| nt|westjava: hi all,good afternoon|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Your commentators are Hamdi Karluk and Andrei Varlan|pg|| nt|flash: these are 9 board matches; this is the last of 3 sessions|pg|| nt|flash: the scoring is IMPs, converted to Victory Points - for the scale being used, pls check the conditions of contest posted on the web site or in today's Daily Bulletin|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Hauge is the NPC of a Scandanavian unit comprising 3 world championships|pg|| nt|flash: screens and bidding boxes are in use; all boards in play have been duplicated across the field|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: In this session teams can in fact play a team that they played yesterday but only once|pg|| nt|flash: leaders after 6 matches: Welland (136), Altschuler (125), Berkowitz (121), Hauge and Teodorescu (106), Wold (104)|pg|| nt|flash: Welland beat Altschuler 29-1 in the 6th round, but the conditions of contest allow play-backs in different sessions|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: South in the tankhere|pg|| nt|flash: welcome to Henry Bethe (if he survived my long-winded intro)|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Game force values but no 'easy' bid|pg|| nt|flash: this match features David Stern at the keyboard...|pg|| mb|3S|nt|sybarra: Our operator is Felix Zimmerman |pg|| nt|vugraph35: E/W playing some kind of polish club |pg|| nt|h_karluk: NS are brothers|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I kind of prefer a double|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Features???|pg|| nt|flash: Altshuler-Birman were very solid in the two matches we saw yesterday|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: .|pg|| nt|Gerben42: last 8 boards of the final|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Hi all|pg|| mb|4S|nt|geot: Hi friends, and welcome|pg|| nt|westjava: here we are, Indonesian National Championships QF1 Inter Provinces, North Sulawesi(celebes) vs Banten|pg|| nt|westjava: from serpong,banten,this is semi final Ind National Champships|pg|| nt|aupillon: Thanks Roland for the job you do for the bridge community :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphh2: le mieux ds le meilleu des mondes|pg|| nt|vugraph35: for all results have a look on http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/Englisch/Englisch_00_Frame.html|pg|| nt|vugraph153: Witam wszystkich|pg|| nt|vugraph153: przed nami 5 segment z 8|pg|| nt|aupillon: Hamdi, do you know their basic system if ever ?|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 2@d or x?|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: we say g'day at all time of day - too lazy or innebriated to check if the suns out!!|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=8983 Nevzat AYDOGDU Orthopedic Dr|pg|| nt|h_karluk: green sys Andrei|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: lol |pg|| nt|westjava: 8 teams : Sulut VS Banten, Jabar Vs Gorontalo, Sumbar Vs Sulsel, Jateng Vs DKI|pg|| nt|aupillon: He played it the natural way|pg|| nt|flash: Brink-Drijver represented the Netherlands in last year's Bermuda Bowl and are a very talented pair|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: That is why I prefer a double - play in my 5-3 not 5-2 fit|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Declarer wont be strained here and should make 11 tricks|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: In the OR 6@H went -1|pg|| pc|c3|nt|geot: Hegrand wants partner to bid, mayb 2D from him would have been as good a bid? But any trump E/W choose is splitting 3-3:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: ok, thanks|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ybob: 25 pts EW for 3NT but only 8 tricks|pg|| nt|mcphee: well this one is going down|pg|| nt|westjava: West Java vs Jakarta|pg|| nt|h_karluk: yw - as far as i remember from their first session|pg|| nt|aupillon: 1 spade, 1 club, 2 diamonds it seems to me|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=4860 Terje AA|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=5433 Jorgen MOLBERG|pg|| nt|aupillon: but it seems some spades the other way unreacheable|pg|| nt|aupillon: if he doubles N 'll say 3 spades|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=21189 Hohn Helge HERLAND|pg|| nt|aupillon: is he thinking, vugraph ?|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Yes|pg|| nt|h_karluk: to reopen maybe|pg|| pc|cA|nt|vugraph35: short break to get some water|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|sybarra: 3 @H looks like a retransfer |pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=21850 Fikret AYDOGDU A police Commander on HQ|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good morning to Sten Bjertnes|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|westjava: the other semi final is North Sulawesi vs South Sulawesi|pg|| nt|aupillon: he needs immediately to open the spade ruff in dummy|pg|| pc|c6|nt|vugraph35: N/S playing strong club, 1 @d preparatory 0+ @d |pg|| nt|sybarra: they had 9 tricks in NT |pg|| nt|frankaus: arrived at the right terminus - |pg|| nt|mcphee: avoided @H lead, but that will not last long|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=3746 Per Erik AUSTBERG|pg|| nt|rmac: hi all|pg|| nt|vugraph35: N doesn't look very happy|pg|| nt|sten: hi Roland|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: he has left the table|pg|| pc|d6|nt|westjava: the new comer,I think is Gorontalo|pg|| pc|dA|nt|scoubi: c bien d'avoir une opératrice si heureuse !!!|pg|| pc|d7|nt|chmitty: Le déclarant joue un peu avec le feu mais il est raisonnable de penser que Nord n'a pas 6 cartes à @s, vu la non-intervention|pg|| nt|geot: These two pairs are both very experienced, with a lot of appearances in Norw Champs finals, and E/W has also some titles|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|Gerben42: can understand he will make 5...|pg|| nt|juror1: witamy Tomka Gotarda|pg|| pc|h5|nt|frankaus: now need to negotiate the traffic - may not be easy|pg|| nt|vugraph35: west thinking|pg|| nt|sybarra: declarer might get tapped a time or 2 |pg|| pc|h4|nt|rmac: hi gerben|pg|| nt|Gerben42: welcome Ralph|pg|| nt|tomek: witam wszystkich|pg|| pc|h2|nt|aupillon: South is somewhere put in hand with no good exit card|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=3744 Erik SAELENSMINDE|pg|| nt|geot: Think diamond contract is a bit better, where you can ruff club on the shortest trump hand|pg|| nt|tomek: bardzo dobra obrona Skrzypczaka|pg|| nt|garden2005: czeœæ Tomek|pg|| nt|henryb: Hello|pg|| pc|s5|nt|tomek: cz Grzesiu|pg|| pc|s6|nt|frankaus: not easy to find the 3@D fit with these methods|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch all 4 vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|westjava: Denny Sacul-Munawar Sawirudin vs Ong Keng Hin-Very Pangkerego|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Gerben42: still to find game on these hands is not easy|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|Gerben42: 3@d = dont like @C, then what can S do|pg|| pc|sA|nt|sybarra: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/Englisch/Englisch_00_Frame.html is the link to the tournament website, German as well as English|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|h_karluk: I think 2rounds @d would not change anything|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|aupillon: So : we won't ruff spades |pg|| mc|11|nt|flash: welcome also to Phil Clayton|pg|| nt|phil: Good morning - I'll fill up some of the dead air too :)|pg|| nt|flash: not much surprise that Meckstroth-Welland bid aggressively in the Open Room|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SQT7H6DAT98CAJ764,SAKJ543HK72DQ72C9,S862HQT543DK64CK2,S9HAJ98DJ53CQT853|sv|n|nt|sommer: it became a little more interesting than expected|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: w 2 lewie @SQ|pg|| nt|garden2005: nie to, odejœcie @c jest niedobre|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: ale rozgrywajaca zawsze mogla poradzic sobie|pg|| nt|bouncer: no, i stole it from fantoni/nunes:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: 7@S on|pg|| mb|p|nt|bouncer: but i dont think they get there:)|pg|| mb|1C!|an|can be short|mb|1S|nt|andersk: Hi all|pg|| nt|andersk: are there any commentators here|pg|| nt|liujing: Õâ¸ö¾Ö¿öEW¿ª1NTÒ»°ãºÅ³ÆÊÇ10-12µÄ£¬ËùÒÔÖ»ÄÜ¿ª½Ð 1@D|pg|| mb|d|nt|vugraph117: yes you|pg|| nt|vugraph153: na drugim stole Pazur tez trafil pika wiec kwit|pg|| nt|bouncer: 6 @C now i guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|tmice: kids fighting, so i am on/off sometimes:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: but bad @C split|pg|| nt|sten: yes but will find out that it depends on the hearts |pg|| mb|2D|nt|andersk: Im not supposed to be here:) but open room, i guess we are short ofcommentators|pg|| nt|vugraph117: yes i guess so|pg|| nt|garden2005: jak pobi³a drug¹ rundê pików, to nie zawsze|pg|| nt|bouncer: dont give them sugar:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: y|pg|| nt|sten: probably with hearts as trumph|pg|| nt|bouncer: to early in the match i think,to get to grand|pg|| mb|2S|nt|tmice: to late....:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: no X with void|pg|| nt|sybarra: gm all |pg|| mb|3C|nt|aldek: EW maja razem 25 punktow, ale zadnej koncowki nie moga wygrac |pg|| nt|garden2005: gdyby dziewczyny gra³y kiery nonstop|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: he might have done it after pass, but I agree|pg|| nt|tmice: or maybe 4@H... |pg|| nt|sten: a question here when you answer the aces with west's hand is the 6th heart as good as the queen or ...|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 4@c ok|pg|| nt|aldek: poprawna licytacja G-Skrz|pg|| nt|bouncer: no he didnt:)|pg|| nt|sten: hehe|pg|| nt|sten: what do you think?|pg|| mb|p|pc|sA|nt|sommer: 5@c is very close|pg|| nt|sommer: ..so 4@C should make easily|pg|| nt|onebid: Hi again all|pg|| nt|andersk: Welcome, Judy Bramley!|pg|| nt|onebid: still close I see|pg|| pc|s2|nt|andersk: tx for helping out J:)|pg|| nt|onebid: np Anders - great bridge in this event|pg|| pc|s9|nt|onebid: 11 tricks|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Morning Shirley, welcome|pg|| nt|sybarra: ty gm Roland and all |pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|sommer: W has to run @H9 to make 5@C, I guess|pg|| nt|bouncer: now they are luckey i think.6@C is a good spot|pg|| nt|bouncer: they play 2/1 dont they?|pg|| pc|sK|nt|milaszewsk: szansa na zysk|pg|| nt|tmice: sound contract this time...|pg|| nt|bouncer: but was 3@C forcing then?|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d3|nt|sten: I think they play it as GF except with rebid of minor|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|tmice: yes i think maybe E Homme should push on with his bare A@s..|pg|| nt|bouncer: if it was,ok then.|pg|| nt|bouncer: ok|pg|| pc|s8|nt|garden2005: dla Ramondta wszystko jest ju¿ jasne|pg|| nt|garden2005: wykorzystujemy atuta partnera|pg|| nt|vugraph153: na drugim stole pazur otworzyl 2@c i ten kontrakt rozgrywa (z kontra)|pg|| nt|aldek: 2@C slabe na starszych kolorach jest po partii raczej niebezbieczne|pg|| nt|aldek: niebezpieczne dla uzytkownikow|pg|| nt|aldek: i zyskowne dla przeciwnikow, moim zdaniem|pg|| nt|vugraph153: jak na slabe otwarcie to Pazur mial bardzo duzo|pg|| nt|tmice: mm|pg|| pc|c3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|aldek: faktycznie i tez bedzie 800 kosztowac|pg|| pc|hA|nt|hedyg: W has to open in 3rd seat to make 5@c:)|pg|| nt|gracelin: srry, not readable.|pg|| nt|garden2005: Skrzypczak niepotrzebnie czas traci, ale nie ma mu jak tego przekazaæ:)|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|bouncer: next:)|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: teraz trzeba !|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: @C|pg|| nt|bouncer: anyway strange bidding|pg|| nt|sten: about the play nothing much to say|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: odwrot w @S niezrozumialy|pg|| nt|vugraph153: ale dalej nie ma jak wygrac|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: 3@H, 2@S, 2@D i @C lub 3@D|pg|| pc|s5|nt|hedyg: EW play strong @c and he would have had to open 1@d.......|pg|| nt|tmice: yes|pg|| pc|d4|nt|hedyg: not an attractive idea|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Bonjour à l'expert de la peche a la ligne|pg|| nt|chris3108: bonjour:)|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Little Touftouf|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|milaszewsk: rzeczywiscie po @HA odwrot @H oblozy|pg|| pc|c6|nt|chris3108: reprise de la selection des moins de 28 ans pour pékin |pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cJ|nt|milaszewsk: teraz juz nie oblozy|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|garden2005: kibice bardzo czêsto prosz¹ komentatorów o analizê i pisanie rzeczowe, a jak widaæ nie jest to proste, szczególnie w rozdaniach skomplikowanych|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SQT7H6DAT98CAJ764,SAKJ543HK72DQ72C9,S862HQT543DK64CK2,S9HAJ98DJ53CQT853|sv|n|nt|sybarra: can not believe E would not lead a @H |pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.bbotv.com/v2/client_v10/bbo.php?m=n&v=y Anyone may watch other rooms same time for VUGRAPH events|pg|| nt|Gerben42: other room in 4@S|pg|| nt|westjava: jeffrey moningkey-yanny couple with henky lasut-eddy manoppo in OR|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: 1@D (1@H) 1@S (2@H) 3@S|pg|| nt|westjava: 20-20 hcp now|pg|| nt|aupillon: this is a good 7 (seven) Hearts !|pg|| nt|h_karluk: slam..@s or @h ? :)|pg|| nt|flash: but it's at a cost of 11 IMPs|pg|| mb|1C|nt|vugraphh2: classement apres le huitieme tour|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: 1er Grosset Chassagne 678|pg|| mb|1S|nt|frankaus: i can sympethise with the 4@S choice here|pg|| nt|sybarra: maybe only 8 tricks in nt |pg|| nt|mcphee: I am pleased to see Renouard did not open |pg|| mb|d|nt|frankaus: last that is |pg|| nt|sybarra: right, still talking about that also |pg|| nt|geot: but likely a push, of course|pg|| nt|phil: blame it on system - Welland couldnt agree hearts at a lower level and Meck had to guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|sten: With both AQ in diamonds in north he was home|pg|| nt|tomek: Ciezkie, praktycznie niemozliwe, 4@S do wygrania na WE|pg|| nt|westjava: 4 imps for Jakarta was carry over|pg|| nt|aupillon: let's see if they'll find the 4/4 fit better than ANYTHING |pg|| nt|flash: slams off 2 aces aren't a favorite with neither hand having a void|pg|| mb|2D|nt|westjava: normal lead|pg|| nt|8252: pourquoi il est pas mis sur internet|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: 2eme Galinsky Courrias 677|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: 3eme Malarme Chauvelot 662|pg|| nt|flang: bonsoir à tous|pg|| nt|phil: so is 2@d a reverse here? |pg|| mb|2S|nt|vugraph117: NS play pretty natural with 5 card maj|pg|| nt|vugraph117: So do EW, but 5-4 in majors|pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: well place honors and nice fit here for N/S, so 4S will make|pg|| nt|kskov: cant see a way to avoid 9 tricks here... |pg|| mb|p|nt|ybob: with @D lead -2|pg|| nt|Gerben42: this wont be fun for EW|pg|| nt|aupillon: 3 clubs/ 3 hearts now|pg|| nt|henryb: I do not think so|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Well he doesnt have reversing values so I am guessing not - maybe not after a neg double|pg|| nt|flash: looks natural - and assumes partner might have 4 or 5 @Ds for his neg X??|pg|| nt|phil: not for me either but for some it is|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: ugly to face a difficult choice on the first board|pg|| nt|kskov: so lets hope the next board is a bit more interesting|pg|| nt|h_karluk: to AA 4 queens are missing|pg|| nt|voldenuit: bsr à tous |pg|| nt|henryb: Partner showed @h and @d|pg|| pc|cK|nt|frankaus: this looks like good chance|pg|| nt|sten: they play with 5c spades and 4c hearts|pg|| nt|westjava: for info: Prananta-Taufik Nasution was 4th rank in National Selection last month|pg|| nt|kotstak: hi|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Hi Takis, welcome|pg|| nt|kotstak: to 2 koupes tha einai ena kalo skor giati an brethei h dysh sto reopening oi E/W tha synagonistoun mallon sta karo opote to pithanotero einai -50|pg|| nt|kotstak: gia E/W|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: 4eme Vinay Seguineau 658|pg|| nt|voldenuit: ce tour là ils vont souffrir grosset chassagne ils jouent contre bessis gaviard et la ligne EO est très forte |pg|| nt|vugraphh2: 5eme Volcker De Tessieres 629|pg|| nt|flang: toutefois une paire d'outsiders à ce stade c'est déjà une belle performance|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: 6eme Bessis Gaviard 628|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Double dummy can make 10 tricks but I will guess 9 or even 8 if safely played|pg|| pc|c3|nt|sten: Smith-Evjen|pg|| nt|westjava: trappy deal with 20-20|pg|| nt|garden2005: têpe 4@s|pg|| nt|flash: no @D ruff for the defense; the suit is frozen; no trump loser on a finesse; the @HQ where it belongs...|pg|| pc|c6|nt|Gerben42: but might gain imps if other room plays 3NT from other side|pg|| nt|aupillon: queens are for gentlemen, not for bridge players...:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: come on, now...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: what can i say when my friend Andrei tells so :)|pg|| nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: in addition @c A and @h K|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|chmitty: Dupraz a voulu indiquer un bicolore mineur, mais le message n'est pas passé ... à juste titre d'ailleurs d'après moi|pg|| nt|scoubi: bonjour, nous sommes de retour pour le dernier segment de cette selection, où tout est encore possible !!!|pg|| nt|phil: 10 involves double hooking the heart or some magic in the endgame I think|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Altshuler just dis something I dislike at the table - if you have a choice of playing the 7 6 or 4 wurely it must be the 7 or the 4 not the 6|pg|| nt|flash: we start with North having to provide some help here?|pg|| pc|hT|nt|h_karluk: if they ve some methods to investigate all then all ok|pg|| nt|phil: club is best|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Now 10 looks likely|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|h_karluk: nice hold up|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but can that be bid?|pg|| nt|garden2005: brak cue@h|pg|| nt|tomek: Powinien byc maly zysk, przeciwnicy na drugim stole przelicytowali|pg|| nt|aupillon: No, no, let me take a beer. Sorry folks. No good|pg|| pc|h6|nt|sybarra: plays ace and sp and should be home |pg|| nt|henryb: that is help|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|h_karluk: @c 3 ok to discard|pg|| nt|scoubi: les resultats sont disponibles sur le site de la FFB : www.ffbridge.asso.fr|pg|| pc|s9|nt|geot: If he believes the hearts are 5-3 he may go wrong...but as the first tricks went they look to be 4-4|pg|| nt|aupillon: 13 tricks later they'll be a little bit angry about this|pg|| nt|cindy: hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Cindy Marshall from USA|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Not expressing it, Molberg_ Aa very disiplined at the table|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|chmitty: 2SA est plutôt du genre xxx D10x RVX Vxxx je pense |pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|kskov: could have been interesting with @s 4-2 and the 4th @s with A of @c, but here he can't go wrong|pg|| nt|westjava: for info: sacul-munawar + lasut-manoppo is runner up of senior world champship at shanghai 2007|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|vugraph35: E is thinking|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the 1@H minipsyche stole the board :)|pg|| nt|garden2005: 2@s wyjaœni³aby teraz sprawê:) nierealne marzenie|pg|| pc|c5|pc|sT|pg|| nt|mcphee: here comes the @S|pg|| pc|s3|nt|frankaus: yes seeing his lordship fall is nice|pg|| nt|westjava: @h and @H again...|pg|| pc|s8|nt|h_karluk: in th tank for sure |pg|| nt|h_karluk: easy 9 now|pg|| nt|Gerben42: other room: East 1@D, West 1@H...|pg|| nt|tomek: Gracz S nie powinien za duzo kombinowac, tylko czekac spokojnie na swoje dwie lewy|pg|| pc|d3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Back to 9 as worried about heart ruffs I guess|pg|| nt|henryb: except declarer will be afraid of a @h ruff and bang out trumps|pg|| nt|phil: why would you shift to the 10 looking at that dummy? |pg|| nt|flash: South's turn to provide help :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Not needed now though as can hook up the heart for 9|pg|| nt|henryb: no more help needed|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: South will show out on the King|pg|| nt|phil: NS did well to give up; the OR did not fare so well|pg|| nt|flash: they can cash the @Ds for 9; a @C here is ten or (if strange play in @Hs is matched by the @CJ here) 11|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|westjava: oops|pg|| nt|garden2005: wiadomo ale serce moje podpowiada³o pomarañczowej koszulce, skuœ:)|pg|| pc|d6|nt|westjava: Ong Keng Hin - Very Pangkerego is 5th rank of national selection open last month|pg|| nt|h_karluk: when plays rounds @s it is time to push board|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|Gerben42: both rooms bid 1@H, must be me but I wouldn't think of it|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Hi Gerben, hi all|pg|| nt|sten: Vidar Smith in south is a very good matchpoint player|pg|| nt|geot: he may try to get 4 tricks in spade the wrong way....but that will be on a bad day.... I guess he just play clubs?|pg|| pc|cA|nt|geot: he can finesse in spades Kenneth?|pg|| nt|kskov: yes|pg|| nt|geot: Spade ace dropping the ten, spade to the Q....:) and....|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c2|nt|geot: but didn't hearts look like 4-4? |pg|| nt|kskov: hehe, but he went for the @c's :-(|pg|| nt|flash: these minor-suit aces look alike...|pg|| nt|phil: back to 10|pg|| mc|10|nt|mcphee: still looks to be 2 in the dumper|pg|| nt|h_karluk: * three rounds @s|pg|| nt|henryb: another imp for Altshuler|pg|| nt|flash: so only 1 IMP away|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Yep I gave up predicting outcomes many moons ago|pg|| nt|flash: remember that Welland thrashed Altshuler 29-1 in the last match|pg|| nt|phil: then you wouldnt make a good bookie David :)|pg|| nt|flash: the format is a bit unusual in allowing play-backs|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SKQ62HK9DAKT9CKT4,ST754H753D732CQ95,S983H642DQJCAJ632,SAJHAQJT8D8654C87|sv|e|nt|sommer: great result here for NS close room|pg|| nt|tmice: 4@h - 4@s|pg|| nt|tmice: 5@h - 5@s :)|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Yes 3 club was forcing|pg|| mb|1C!|an|can be short|nt|tmice: ok tx|pg|| nt|bouncer: This is the 3time Ksand is in the finals in 3 year.Strong!|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: "some" might miss 4@H here and there|pg|| nt|garden2005: Ewa rz¹dzi podawaniem kart i tempem zmiany - robi to jak b³yskawica|pg|| nt|vugraph153: a mimo to 4 rozdania w 40 minut|pg|| nt|chris3108: entame @s contre 3 sa pas une bonne idée sur cette donne :(|pg|| mb|1N|an|alerted by S |nt|hedyg: lets see.......|pg|| nt|sommer: not here of course:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@D=@H|pg|| nt|tmice: yes thats strong, but they have good players to:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: Been big cards E/W,last match as well|pg|| nt|sten: partscore swing on the first board|pg|| mb|2H|nt|hedyg: 5+@Hs|pg|| nt|sommer: the problem is 7 losers at S|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@H will show 4 card fit|pg|| mb|3N|nt|hedyg: 4@H as well LOL|pg|| nt|garden2005: ale przynajmniej tu nadrabia:)|pg|| nt|tmice: would you pass 2@d Per?|pg|| nt|bouncer: Not so big club. about 6-8 tabels are playing i think|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|sommer: wd|pg|| nt|garden2005: w pokoju otwartym jednostronna licytacja w tym rozdaniu|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: maybe E should have raised @cs with 4 cards|pg|| nt|onebid: nice agreement to have|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|hedyg: though.........|pg|| nt|hedyg: 5@c was -2|pg|| pc|hK|nt|bouncer: this mean min and 4card support|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|onebid: too high|pg|| nt|aldek: dobry szlemik, na podwojnym ficie|pg|| nt|garden2005: coœ Skrzypek nie ma wêchu z @d KDx|pg|| nt|tmice: i was watching Kvangraven in the Youth Team World cup in France, and he has been a very good player after finishing the youth period to!|pg|| nt|chris3108: l enchere de 3@c montre une main de 2 eme zone avec une belle couleur 6 me |pg|| pc|cK|nt|johnp: We hope all of you are prepared for to morrows marathon-bridge from Norway. From 09:00 - 22:00. |pg|| nt|scoubi: bjr stephane|pg|| nt|chris3108: 3 sa un peu poussé chez poulat mais bon pour gagner il faut trouver le roi de @c placé second ou sec ! |pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|hedyg: bidding vulnerable 3@c not very appealing|pg|| nt|garden2005: no i co po takiej licytacji winien jest Gierulski?|pg|| nt|bouncer: on a @D lead,u have a lot of work to do|pg|| nt|sten: should be 9 tricks now|pg|| nt|chris3108: salut step :)|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|cT|nt|kalliste: l'entame@h livre la 9ème|pg|| pc|c9|nt|bouncer: yes he is classplayer|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|sommer: yes, but a @Csupport might have made the job easier for S ..and hard to sacrifice|pg|| nt|hedyg: specs suggesting 3NT in W with @d lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: though i dont see why N wouldnt lead pds suit|pg|| nt|andersk: Welcome to john Stewart from canada. tx for joining us|pg|| nt|onebid: notice Geir's unblock to retain trump entry if needed|pg|| nt|stewball: hi everyone|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SKQ62HK9DAKT9CKT4,ST754H753D732CQ95,S983H642DQJCAJ632,SAJHAQJT8D8654C87|sv|e|nt|sybarra: another 4 @S hand |pg|| nt|mcphee: no way he went up ace|pg|| nt|ybob: easy 4@S NS here|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 22 vs 18|pg|| nt|chmitty: Ca leur fera un sujet de discussion pour le diner|pg|| nt|h_karluk: it's a nice spot to use alert card about unusual calls, anyway most TDs believe if partner is also deceived then no foul.|pg|| nt|geot: He could have cashed two spades though....see if jack drops|pg|| nt|kskov: that is the best play|pg|| nt|westjava: 22-18 hacp now|pg|| nt|westjava: hcp|pg|| nt|aupillon: Remark, when you play 4, you do what to want to not annoy partener|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i hope other room has more lively auction|pg|| nt|aupillon: keep us in touch if you can.|pg|| nt|flash: the only restriction is no play-backs in a single session|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I would love to understand Hebrew after the exchange which just took place under the screen|pg|| mb|1D|nt|mcphee: yes|pg|| nt|h_karluk: likely 4@h for EW|pg|| nt|h_karluk: likely 4 @s for EW|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: how many 1H by N ?|pg|| nt|mcphee: possible to over reach |pg|| nt|garden2005: Holendrzy graj¹ zaje.. pomarañczowych koszulkach, ra¿¹cych w oczy a na sercu maj¹ przyklejone bia³e trzylistne koniczynki:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: 2 diamonds i s multi 4441 and all|pg|| mb|1N|nt|frankaus: @H|pg|| nt|sybarra: N opens some form of weak H! |pg|| nt|sybarra: @H |pg|| nt|rmac: rehi|pg|| nt|h_karluk: hi Ralph|pg|| nt|westjava: we dont see imp compare...>|pg|| nt|voldenuit: chauvelot malarme ils ont perdu beaucoup au tour précedent donc |pg|| nt|aupillon: This is a junior multi, I guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: multi works here, will see E treatment of defense to multi here |pg|| nt|geot: 25hcp, 3NT will make since the one with the heartshas no entry. But will they get there?|pg|| nt|kskov: dbl now from Allard?|pg|| nt|kskov: invitational|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 spades, yes , with no much hard work|pg|| nt|flash: Jacek led the @HQ against 3NT in the Open Room - certainly best for the defense|pg|| mb|2N|nt|rmac: hi hamdi|pg|| nt|westjava: for info: 8 teams : Sulut VS Banten, Jabar Vs Gorontalo, Sumbar Vs Sulsel, Jateng Vs DKI|pg|| nt|tomek: Troche pechowo dla biolo-czerwonych. Normalnie powinien byc duzy zysk z przelicytowania zawodnikow holenderskich|pg|| nt|cindy: 5C good save|pg|| nt|voldenuit: 2@h c'est 5@s 4@h 6/9 |pg|| nt|aupillon: Can someone tell me if I comment in French or English, please ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: D= invite for game|pg|| nt|geot: now Hegrand entered. And N/S should be out of it. E/W in trouble|pg|| nt|westjava: 27 hacp NS|pg|| nt|aupillon: 3 down, yes|pg|| nt|kalliste: re bonjour:)|pg|| nt|flang: bsr:)|pg|| mb|3N|nt|aupillon: Bon. Je vais faire les 2. I'll try in both, so|pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: if North had overcalled 1NT it would probably have ended the bidding, now they will bid it I think|pg|| nt|kskov: 4@c is risky from Hegrand|pg|| nt|geot: Yes, with singleton heart it seems a bit risky, and no reason to bid. Then better bid 2C the first time|pg|| nt|kskov: Allard taking his time, will he pass. 4@s is not a good bid now in my opinion|pg|| nt|kskov: better to double again then|pg|| nt|geot: Wests hand is a litte to weak for a direct overcall, maybe....but I like it. Bidding 2C over 1S, and you are not unhappy if partner jump to 3NT for excample...|pg|| nt|westjava: quarter final Ind National Chamship|pg|| nt|westjava: hcp|pg|| nt|phil: here's where the event stands: http://www.cavendishinvitational.com/2008/TEAMS2-FINALS.htm |pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: X here may be passed out|pg|| nt|sybarra: true|pg|| nt|frankaus: should not be off course|pg|| nt|geot: I think Allard has shown enough, and so do he|pg|| nt|kskov: agree, better go get in early in the auction, less risk|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 1@c , 2 @d and 2 @s doubled -3 = 500 vs 620|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: hi everyone|pg|| nt|Gerben42: please welcome Hedy Grey, Switzerland|pg|| nt|hedyg: hello:)|pg|| nt|sten: absolutely GeO ... I should know because we have played on the same team for about 15 years I think|pg|| nt|aupillon: you are so right; maybe Aa could have said 4 clubs to provoke the pre-emptive|pg|| nt|voldenuit: volcker va trouver facilement le sing @s de son part |pg|| nt|kalliste: qui n'a pas voulu l'entamer|pg|| nt|voldenuit: oui il a pas voulu prendre son part en fourchette|pg|| nt|henryb: and Meckstroth guessed the @c|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I am not a fan of 2NT - I would hate for partner to pass|pg|| nt|flash: Meckstroth had little choice but to take the @C hook for his contract|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|frankaus: nice bid|pg|| nt|rmac: wont quite fetch|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Ralph do you agree with Hanlon's cue here ?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: in the category "you never know!|pg|| nt|rmac: very much so|pg|| nt|h_karluk: stopper ask i think|pg|| nt|Gerben42: I dont like 3@H, after unfav. 2@C overcall pd heard you the 1st time|pg|| nt|rmac: of course asking|pg|| nt|rmac: spade rates to be onside so looks like a very gd shot to me|pg|| nt|h_karluk: this is a nice spot that most bridge player should recognize at events. My partner is not a blind one |pg|| nt|geot: North showing 18-19|pg|| nt|westjava: easy landing|pg|| pc|h7|nt|chmitty: Un flanc attentif devrait battre ici|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|aupillon: Bonjour. Excusez du retard mais je commentais en salle ouverte !|pg|| nt|mcphee: 4 or 5 depending on the @D guess it seems|pg|| nt|ybob: bj :)|pg|| nt|tomek: Ostre otwarcie wykluczylo z licytacji pare WE, pomimo przewagi sily|pg|| nt|tomek: poprawna obrona powinna zakonczyc sie wpadka|pg|| nt|h_karluk: +3 IMPs|pg|| nt|phil: well your choice is a glub guess or 4-4 hearts|pg|| nt|henryb: I am a big fan of 2N: it shows 18-19 balanced and allows partner to bid things other than 3N|pg|| nt|phil: club :)|pg|| pc|cK|nt|rmac: ducking is a waste of time|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Mesbur probably could have bid 2NT with the correct hand for 3NT|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 2NT would not be natural with 3 players bidding|pg|| nt|h_karluk: partner saw 2 @c card and preferred to use 3@c, then i do not understand to ask @h stopper at 3 level while 2 NT not seen there...|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 spades est à l'abri de balles. 4 spades is clearcut|pg|| pc|c5|nt|sybarra: so single @D lead, |pg|| nt|frankaus: nice dummy PD !!!!!!!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Wladow also bid 3@H|pg|| nt|rmac: he has the right hand for 3nt but the spade king is off|pg|| nt|Gerben42: maybe he bid it because he felt Hanlon would try it being 40 behind|pg|| nt|geot: surprised East didn't try a heart lead, but nothing will be threat anyway|pg|| nt|westjava: normal lead (rusinov)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|hedyg: and now?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: EW escaped here... 3@H was, well, down|pg|| nt|hedyg: way down:)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: anyway 3NT is an easy contract|pg|| nt|hedyg: what a pd! i bid 3@h and he leads @d!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: only a small @C gives you more than the 3 Aces|pg|| nt|vugraph35: E is thinking|pg|| nt|hedyg: i would too|pg|| nt|tomek: Rozgrywajacy moze uskrobac tylko 7 lew, 3+2+1+1|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: A bit more interesting if East had the @C9|pg|| pc|cT|nt|sybarra: I never bring these to my pard |pg|| nt|frankaus: may yet go off|pg|| nt|sybarra: we had discussion in a match yesterday re passing first 2 @D bid, and double after, being stronger than initial dble (as played by some) |pg|| pc|c9|nt|phil: depends how light you like to respond, at these colors North could have just about anything|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Would everybody pass 1NT with the East hand?|pg|| nt|henryb: and could easily have a very long club suit and shortness in a major|pg|| nt|phil: I wouldnt|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Birman fiddling with his bidding box while thinking what to do|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Now sipping his coffee|pg|| nt|phil: those heart spots make it about impossible to get doubled|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Folded arms nodding to himself|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Puts his cards on the table and strokes his chin|pg|| nt|henryb: on this hand you could easily go for 800 against nothing|pg|| nt|flash: in the Open Room, Pszczola thought it worth a 2@H call|pg|| nt|phil: Drijver is certainly up to the semi normal false card from 9-7-5|pg|| nt|phil: you could Henry but its not clear to me who would x it|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|frankaus: ooooooooppppppppppps|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|mcphee: i just bang down AK@D on these hands, as if the Q fails to fall you endplay someone|pg|| nt|hedyg: maybe should have taken last @s and played another|pg|| nt|garden2005: witamy Karola Mykietyna - "kamyk" :)|pg|| nt|tomek: Ladne podegranie damy przez Bogusia|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Gerben42: if not @CK off, maybe @CK is off?|pg|| nt|henryb: well, against a non-vul game here, but if partner had the @cJ it would not help your cffense, but would stop their game|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|Gerben42: one of them is a @S|pg|| nt|kotstak: den brethike i antam alla to - 1 mallon tha einai to pithanotero|pg|| nt|kalliste: Fred imagine sans doute un honneur sec @s|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|hedyg: bd 9 1NT +6!!!!|pg|| pc|c6|nt|h_karluk: true|pg|| nt|flash: this seems to be a overly long think just to preserve a position in the post mortem...|pg|| mc|10|nt|rmac: poor play lead 10 and unblock 7 is best|pg|| nt|westjava: 6@D,1@C and 3@H|pg|| nt|phil: I'll go out on a limb and predict a push here|pg|| nt|flash: a play like that has sometimes been greeted with 'what took you so long?'|pg|| nt|henryb: I would, just suggesting a strong hand with no clead direction|pg|| nt|henryb: clear|pg|| nt|flash: with daring like that, Phil, i'd assume you're ready to place a small wager on the Kentucky Derby|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S92HQJ942DAKJ85C6,SKJ4H76DCAKQT9743,SAQ863H85DQT93CJ8,ST75HAKT3D7642C52|sv|b|nt|sommer: maybe not|pg|| nt|sommer: coffee-4@S?|pg|| nt|garden2005: a jednak te¿ 4@h:)|pg|| nt|vugraph153: na nasze szczescie Gosia sclaimowala dwie lewy i rozdanie sie skonczylo|pg|| nt|tmice: 3NT N/S|pg|| nt|scoubi: re bjr stephane !|pg|| nt|kalliste: bonjour Christophe, bonjour à tous|pg|| mb|1C|nt|onebid: OK you can have the ace of trumps|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|garden2005: ³atwo mo¿na wypuœciæ, gdy¿ partner mo¿e posiadaæ jednego "dobrego" króla|pg|| nt|bouncer: 2@S looks like a push|pg|| nt|vugraph117: ..|pg|| mb|2C!|an|!ds|nt|hedyg: After the conclusion of the Round Robin the leading teams from each group will play a final of 3rounds of 8 boards|pg|| mb|5C|nt|bouncer: I bet that Sveidal and Kåre K is in 6@C|pg|| nt|bouncer: on nr 2|pg|| nt|kalliste: 3@c, 4 atouts dans une main limite|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: At the same time the remaining 18 teams will play 3 more rounds of 8 boards in a swiss style|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|hedyg: no rematches with teams from their own group|pg|| nt|onebid: 2NT some serious try?|pg|| nt|bouncer: small @C lead|pg|| pc|d2|nt|tmice: well you dont get any bets from me, when thoose "kids" are bidding:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|tmice: well a good contract for K BK|pg|| nt|sten: or J of hearts|pg|| nt|bouncer: or jof@H:)|pg|| nt|sten: hehe|pg|| mc|11|nt|hedyg: 4@c RKC|pg|| nt|hedyg: nice spacesaver|pg|| nt|vugraph153: wszystkie pary na sali oprocz dwoch zagraly koncowke|pg|| nt|vugraph153: jedna z par kobiecych 4 karo|pg|| nt|garden2005: wyj¹tkowo brzydka karta po splinterze, nie pozosta³o z niej prawie nic ...:)|pg|| nt|vugraph153: a Kalita-Kotorowicz 7@d !|pg|| nt|garden2005: m³odoœæ:) odwaga:) nastrój:)|pg|| nt|vugraph153: a latwo nie mieli bo holendrzy tez blokowali 3@c i 4@c|pg|| nt|Walddk7: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch 8! vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Open one browser window per table|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2S92HQJ942DAKJ85C6,SKJ4H76DCAKQT9743,SAQ863H85DQT93CJ8,ST75HAKT3D7642C52|sv|b|nt|frankaus: S can lead a SP card but will N beleive it |pg|| nt|mcphee: 4@S a good save|pg|| nt|h_karluk: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/liveticker/08_04_30_team.html|pg|| nt|kskov: no, for Vikersund :)|pg|| nt|voldenuit: ca revient au même de toute façon |pg|| nt|aupillon: Bonjour à une grande championne. Elle va parler in English et moi, in French|pg|| mb|1C|nt|sybarra: 4 @S+1ns likely here |pg|| nt|ybob: 10 tricks in @H NS, 9 in @S EW|pg|| nt|mcphee: if E bids it at once it will get interesting|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1@H in 3rd seat|pg|| nt|kskov: but could he loose anything on pitching the @d?|pg|| nt|kotstak: 3 NT to pithanotero kai kalytero symbolaio |pg|| nt|voldenuit: 3Sa en EO |pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: good hands give the dealing machine operator a raise |pg|| nt|Gerben42: only 1?|pg|| nt|hedyg: i think so|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so 3NT needed: @CK onside, @SK onside and South cannot have 3@C |pg|| nt|aupillon: 3NT on route..../ on the way :)|pg|| nt|henryb: He is betting brown all the way|pg|| mb|1H|nt|mcphee: and there you have it|pg|| nt|mcphee: places a problem to S and N|pg|| nt|geot: A normal 4H here, but will be problematic to win as the cards lay|pg|| nt|aupillon: 6 clubs in our furious dreams |pg|| nt|h_karluk: slammish..such as 6@c for NS..needs a good endplay|pg|| nt|aupillon: En avant pour un chelem mineur ? Slam minor possible|pg|| nt|fifee: good afternoon andrei :)|pg|| nt|aupillon: Good afternoon Patricia. Welcome|pg|| nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| nt|fifee: ty :)|pg|| nt|fifee: yes minor slam possible but hard to reach after 1NT opening|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphh2: theone before claimed and gives one D|pg|| nt|chmitty: le top à 6SA mais déclarer 6@h serait très bien|pg|| nt|hedyg: no|pg|| nt|rmac: david greenwood, north at other table, is a frequent commentator his login is jtr|pg|| nt|westjava: sry for incovenience...just set the computer|pg|| nt|flash: overcall by Meckstroth in Open Room|pg|| nt|flash: the upside is decent suit and pre-emptive value of the call|pg|| mb|2N!|an|6+ !C 15+ HCP|nt|sybarra: seems to be stuck on @S games |pg|| nt|mcphee: i doubt they defend|pg|| nt|cindy: that might help|pg|| nt|aupillon: as you perfectly say|pg|| nt|h_karluk: for now west has not bright chances to get rid of his hig cards..so potential thrown in play line there|pg|| nt|cindy: control in all side suits|pg|| nt|h_karluk: *high|pg|| nt|voldenuit: 2@c est fort au moins 11 pts (SMI) |pg|| nt|aupillon: Seeayez de trouver la sequence pour 6 carreux . Le fit 4/4 est en géneral meilleur|pg|| nt|flash: the downside is if partner takes you seriously|pg|| nt|phil: 2N presumably some sort of force|pg|| mb|p|nt|ybob: now 5@H -1 ?|pg|| nt|rmac: as it happens, yes|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 24 vs 16 Hcp|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 3NT - 3 was a push|pg|| nt|westjava: fantastic score in the OR..!|pg|| nt|westjava: even NS bid small slam here|pg|| nt|henryb: he has the 6+ clubs|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: 6+@C and 15+ points|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: If my eyesight isnt as bad as I think it is|pg|| mb|3C|nt|mcphee: wd from Perez|pg|| nt|mcphee: very hard to pass a dble of 4@S as N when hand is all offensive|pg|| nt|ybob: agree|pg|| nt|hedyg: multi 2@D|pg|| nt|kskov: 4@s the superior contract here|pg|| nt|stoffers: 4 top loosers...|pg|| nt|aupillon: On 3NT rebid, I don't know. Ah !|pg|| nt|aupillon: South cannot stop now, I guess|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 diamonds|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 hearts|pg|| nt|h_karluk: maybe 4 @c minorwood|pg|| nt|aupillon: Blackwood|pg|| mb|p|nt|kalliste: 2@h descriptif , pas d indication de force|pg|| nt|aupillon: essaiez = try to look for a sequence that lead you to a minor slam|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: 6nt?|pg|| nt|aupillon: ok. Now it's important|pg|| mb|5C|nt|h_karluk: 20 vs 20 hcp|pg|| nt|chmitty: le choix de l'ouverture va fluidifier la séquence|pg|| nt|chmitty: s'ils jouent cette convention, 3@s serait demande de contrôle, avec réponse en écho à 3SA|pg|| nt|chmitty: qui indiquerait alors un contrôle @s en Sud|pg|| nt|Gerben42: that's fine by me, dont really like 1@H there|pg|| nt|hedyg: dont like 2@D either|pg|| nt|hedyg: like 2@d less|pg|| nt|aupillon: 6NT, too, but in teams of 4 ? You a raison ( i speak franglish ) :)|pg|| nt|fifee: i love it :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I would suspect 4@C may be a stronger action and would expect Brink to pass here|pg|| nt|henryb: I suspect the bid of a new suit would be stronger|pg|| mb|p|nt|tomek: Rozdanie raczej bez historii|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: X is some form of card showing, (but I am not an expert on their system) |pg|| nt|h_karluk: hard to land 3@c|pg|| nt|aupillon: one key|pg|| nt|voldenuit: intervention agressive dans l'autre salle à 1@s |pg|| nt|vugraphh2: tous les resultats bientot sur internet ils sont en train de les rentrer|pg|| nt|voldenuit: 3@c par Est ne serait forcing dans leur système probablement |pg|| nt|phil: maybe a probe toward 3N|pg|| nt|flash: we've all been in worse slams...|pg|| pc|dT|nt|garden2005: ciekawa 7@s zupe³nie niepolska|pg|| nt|kotstak: opou ean oi E/W paixoun deftero spathi h dysi sto 4o karo einai skouiz se koupes kai ton @sK gia 11 lebe|pg|| nt|aupillon: ça y est = becomes to be good|pg|| pc|d2|nt|frankaus: quick 11 here|pg|| nt|kskov: yes, with best def|pg|| nt|stoffers: I they csh them that is|pg|| nt|kotstak: alla me tin antam pika.........|pg|| nt|aupillon: take it slower now|pg|| pc|dK|nt|Gerben42: this 3N seems to require less |pg|| nt|Gerben42: but bad @D break isnt helpful|pg|| nt|westjava: sry all,lost my conn|pg|| nt|cindy: cue bidding it looks like|pg|| nt|aupillon: yep|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 keys|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4NT and du-te la slem ( this one was in Romanian, my origins :)|pg|| nt|fifee: grand amount of info exchanged so far|pg|| nt|aupillon: come on, vas'y, bagà...|pg|| nt|aupillon: 1 minute please, I had to record a north correan film. Une minute je vais enregistrer un film nord-coréen :)|pg|| nt|fifee: lol|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|Gerben42: as it is, doesnt matter what you do|pg|| nt|hedyg: no|pg|| nt|geot: with the trump length West does not lead his singleton|pg|| pc|cA|nt|sybarra: cash'em or you dont get 'em |pg|| nt|garden2005: du¿a iloœæ par ma ustalenie ¿e w kolor partnera pierwszy wist jest naturalny|pg|| nt|aupillon: 03/14|pg|| nt|aupillon: Hi Cindy. Welcome !)|pg|| nt|cindy: hi :)|pg|| nt|fifee: good bridge sometimes requires patience :)|pg|| pc|c8|nt|scoubi: bonjour michele|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @SA and a @H to lose|pg|| nt|stoffers: argh, the 1L coke having an effect on my keyboard now!|pg|| pc|c2|nt|chmitty: S'ils ne jouent pas cette convention, alors le 4@d de Sud devrait indiquer un contrôle @s par inférence|pg|| nt|rmac: and will get less|pg|| nt|westjava: yes,they are|pg|| nt|h_karluk: in addition without 2 controls 4@c should not be minorwood--i wld prefer 3 @h|pg|| nt|aupillon: with no heart second stopper say 6 clubs|pg|| nt|aupillon: please|pg|| nt|cindy: think 5S asks for kings|pg|| nt|aupillon: or grand slam force, I am afraid|pg|| nt|cindy: no need for grand slam force|pg|| nt|cindy: N knows S has AK of clubs|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|hedyg: i would play small @s:(|pg|| nt|hedyg: just in case|pg|| nt|h_karluk: still hold on is Ok--because obvious @s stopper|pg|| nt|westjava: very friendly @C distrb...|pg|| nt|westjava: Taufik thinking...|pg|| nt|flash: the position was far more clear in the Open Room after Meckstroth's overcall?|pg|| pc|cK|nt|frankaus: I like K asks for count solves lots of cash out problems|pg|| nt|sybarra: saving the uptrick if not cashed |pg|| nt|vugraph35: a asks for count i think|pg|| nt|chmitty: et le 4@h de Nord devient alors très pessimiste|pg|| nt|sten: correct by north to bid 4h, but not a very promising game with the lay-out of the cards ... also impossible to stop before game here|pg|| nt|garden2005: dalej ju¿ odmiennie|pg|| nt|aupillon: cannot be an asking bid for the queen of clubs. he has it !|pg|| nt|cindy: 5H would be Q ask|pg|| nt|aupillon: Now, pard : make it|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Molberg thinking|pg|| nt|aupillon: AÏE !|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Partner opens 1D. In Lawrence style, the auction 1D-2C does not set up a game force. Responder may have invitational values for this bid.|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Note: The Hardy style specifies that 1D-2C is forcing to game, but since the Forcing Notrump response is not available over 1D, this makes it |pg|| nt|h_karluk: impossible to describe an invitational hand with clubs. If you want to use 1D-2C as a game-force, it's a good idea to also play that 1D-3C is invitational (10-|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 11 pts., 6+-card suit). |pg|| nt|aupillon: Specs. I have bad news : at the other table they went down in 7 hearts. Mon Dieu :(|pg|| nt|cindy: he cant possibly bid 7|pg|| nt|aupillon: Hamdi, your knowledege about the American System impress me much :)|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|kskov: hehe, coke error|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 54 af de 56 tilskuere er fra Norge i dette rum, så dere er velkomne til at kommentere på norsk i stedet for hvis dere foretrækker|pg|| nt|fifee: best spot with long @Cs to sluff losers if they need them (but they don't ) :)|pg|| pc|c5|nt|chmitty: mais bon tous les chemins mènent au chelem|pg|| nt|chmitty: ils ont beaucoup de jeu|pg|| nt|geot: then trumps....and heart J...should be possible?|pg|| nt|westjava: sry,prananta|pg|| nt|kamyk: na BA w kolor niepoparty z dubla gór¹ , a z trzech i wiecej - najnizsz¹ - taka jest ostatnio tendencja|pg|| nt|kotstak: +2 |pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|sybarra: I do too Frank |pg|| nt|stoffers: jaaaa|pg|| nt|stoffers: :)|pg|| nt|geot: wd|pg|| nt|Walddk4: OK, norsk da|pg|| nt|cindy: S could have bid 5N with an outside king|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i am a poor novice dear friend:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: right back, suis revenu|pg|| nt|henryb: 5@d would have been a good save|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|Gerben42: you want to be in dummy for @H|pg|| nt|garden2005: tak, ale sk¹d 7-ka?:)|pg|| nt|garden2005: ja wyszed³bym 2@s|pg|| pc|d9|nt|kskov: jau|pg|| nt|aupillon: Don't say that. Anyway it 'll be a terrible board. Let me look if he's got 1 chance|pg|| nt|cindy: no chance|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i have a different idea-sorry|pg|| nt|h_karluk: preserve @s k at table|pg|| nt|h_karluk: cash @h A|pg|| pc|d4|nt|mcphee: N knows he is not going to get what he needs|pg|| nt|geot: and 3NT would also have failed|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Vienna coup|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|hedyg: can go there with @c|pg|| nt|garden2005: kamyk zapewne te¿:)|pg|| pc|h6|nt|h_karluk: run trumps|pg|| nt|aupillon: YES|pg|| nt|aupillon: all ok, bien joué for une equalité|pg|| pc|h5|nt|sybarra: gin |pg|| nt|stoffers: nice defence|pg|| nt|westjava: nice finess @D right,@C left...|pg|| pc|hA|nt|vugraph35: E/W prefer count everytme|pg|| nt|vugraph35: the next round will be journalists vs england (after germanygermany here)|pg|| nt|sybarra: I like count early in hand, on all suits, since I am blonde|pg|| nt|westjava: prananta is bbo'ers with nick 'MASKIO"|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|aupillon: He can. Did he play that well ?|pg|| pc|s5|nt|voldenuit: c'est agréable pour le déclarant après 43 donnes et 2 jours de bridge de jouer une donne comme cela :) |pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|flash: checking for lurkers in the trump suit...|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|aupillon: trump, samall diam ruff|pg|| mc|11|nt|Gerben42: i dont disagree with you |pg|| nt|westjava: 9 tricks on @C finess|pg|| nt|phil: anyone surprised both NS were quiet in the auction? |pg|| nt|henryb: I suspect 2@c by Welland was a transfer, and Meck did not bid|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SK854HJ76DAT65CT4,SJ62HKT952DJ974C5,S93HQ84DQ32CAKQ72,SAQT7HA3DK8CJ9863|sv|n|nt|garden2005: trudne rozdanie, ale ostra gra pozosta³¹|pg|| nt|bouncer: I remember 1 time in Italia,think is was in EChampions 2001.I was recording behind AA-Grøtheim.It was the last match against France.|pg|| nt|mgchat: bonjour a tous|pg|| nt|kalliste: Ouest, pouvait relancer par 5@c et reclamer ainsi le contrôle @s et conclure s'il pouvait à 6@d dans le fit 4 4|pg|| nt|kalliste: bonjour Michèle|pg|| mb|1C|nt|onebid: Of course, RKC could have been better after 2@S|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d!|nt|stewball: running scores available at http://live.bk2000.org/Team.aspx|pg|| mb|2S|nt|hedyg: disciplined pass by W|pg|| nt|bouncer: 2@H |pg|| mb|3C|nt|liujing: 2@H = 4@S + 5m|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|onebid: another chance here|pg|| nt|minnie lee: hello again:)|pg|| nt|onebid: Hi Minnie|pg|| nt|stewball: lots of finesses:)|pg|| nt|minnie lee: hi Judy|pg|| nt|minnie lee: hi John|pg|| nt|stewball: 4nt-6nt looks a possibility|pg|| nt|onebid: and 2 work - not a great slam, but after last one who knows|pg|| nt|stewball: hey Minnie|pg|| nt|liujing: 4M+5m|pg|| nt|mgchat: ce chelem tient neanmoins a l'impasse @c|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Jim Hay from Scotland|pg|| nt|bouncer: And they have used a veeeeery long time for 12 boards,and french call the cops.|pg|| pc|hA|nt|garden2005: rozd.4, jednym ze sposobów przed bezpoœrednim dogoleniem koñcówki jest zabezpieczenie sobie wistu|pg|| nt|ahh: hi all |pg|| nt|bouncer: Hoi Jim:)|pg|| nt|tmice: Hi Jim|pg|| nt|bouncer: And Terje look like a soccerplayer who had done nothing:)LOLOl out whit his arms asked ,Who me!!!|pg|| pc|h6|nt|hedyg: lead?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|sommer: @H4 for me|pg|| nt|hedyg: will get a trump promotion here|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|stewball: or not|pg|| nt|aldek: Pazur wypuscil te cztery piki na drugim stole|pg|| nt|ahh: this is my kind of contract Jim proof |pg|| nt|bouncer: 9tricks|pg|| nt|sten: he might win this contract|pg|| nt|sten: what did the judge say?|pg|| nt|bouncer: yes,look that way|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|nt|stewball: lots of great spots in that W hand,,maybe E is tiptop max so W didnt even try|pg|| nt|minnie lee: a slam on 2 finesses? never great|pg|| pc|hK|nt|hedyg: unlikely to play 7@H|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: actually N now ordered the 10 of @Hs from the table and W followed low|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|tmice: :)|pg|| nt|liujing: ¿´ÀîÀÏʦÄÜ·ñ´ò³ÉÁË|pg|| nt|liujing: ¿ªÊÒһֱû¶ÒÏÖ @CA ×îºó¶ÒÏÖ²»µ½ÁË|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|nt|sten: or TD|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|hedyg: oh noooooooo|pg|| nt|hedyg: E played K?|pg|| nt|kalliste: en salle ouverte, Grosset a fait une tentative de manche à 3@h que le partenaire a refusé avec un jeu minimum et deux pts slmt dans les couleurs rouges|pg|| pc|c3|nt|onebid: but they just missed one with 12 tops|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|garden2005: mo¿an 4@h poprzedziænp. rebidem @c... a dopiero potem 4@h, uk³ad wistowy by³ na oczywisty wist @c ale w innych przypadkach takie zagranie odnosi pozytywny skutek|pg|| nt|bouncer: 8|pg|| nt|bouncer: if @D back|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|bouncer: but he asked for @C|pg|| nt|ahh: can play @d then 4th @S stops overtrick|pg|| nt|bouncer: He ask me:) and i say maybe littel time they haved use.We won the match 23-7 i think'|pg|| nt|sten: well done by decl|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|minnie lee: it's a question of statistics...one can get lucky|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|minnie lee: can only play @c to not give anything away|pg|| nt|mgchat: a juste raison, il semble|pg|| nt|kalliste: a le choix de jouer A@d, D@d et @d en lob ou @d la dame et atout|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|c4|nt|onebid: Roald Ramer points out that from East, statistics favor it|pg|| nt|garden2005: stara szko³a np. Jurka Zaremby|pg|| nt|liujing: ÏÖÔڰѽ«ÅƵ÷ÁË£¬¶¥¸ö @H ¾Í¹»ÁË|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ahh: reverse attitude signals ?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|sommer: against preference contrackts it's often good to lead a trump ..so here (too) I would lead @h4|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hedyg: @D was fine, K@H wasnt|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|h5|pg|| nt|sten: sorry|pg|| nt|kalliste: en bon joueur de tennis il choisit la première option:)|pg|| nt|mgchat: ca c rigolo|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|minnie lee: discard a @d|pg|| pc|c9|nt|minnie lee: ooooooo|pg|| nt|onebid: we can learn a lot from watching Helgemo play his cards - watch the spots|pg|| pc|d5|nt|kalliste: 1 imp|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|sten: down now|pg|| pc|d6|nt|sten: after playing hearts in trick 2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SK854HJ76DAT65CT4,SJ62HKT952DJ974C5,S93HQ84DQ32CAKQ72,SAQT7HA3DK8CJ9863|sv|n|nt|frankaus: no real advantage what ever your agreement as long as A ask for one , and K ask for the other|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 22 vs 18 HCP kinda partscore battle|pg|| nt|Gerben42: not always...|pg|| nt|hedyg: LOL|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 1NT 3NT you lead?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: next chance for 3N|pg|| nt|rmac: better stratedy by the isirh is to play tight bridge wo hoping for miracles|pg|| nt|westjava: operator..?|pg|| nt|westjava: K@C from prananta..?|pg|| nt|flang: sans intérêt en effet :)|pg|| nt|aupillon: that is the donnes que I like 8/4's|pg|| mb|1C|nt|fifee: much better than 74 :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: poor N/S getting some hard decision hands|pg|| nt|rmac: irish|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 6@D er en god kontrakt|pg|| nt|flash: from what we saw yesterday, N-S are relatively conservative|pg|| nt|flash: they seem not to press to get involved|pg|| nt|phil: I love 1@s on the E cards|pg|| mb|1D|nt|frankaus: another 11 in @S |pg|| nt|sybarra: will W let them play 4, or push them to 5?|pg|| nt|hedyg: 10@c|pg|| nt|kskov: blir no vanskelig å melde|pg|| nt|kotstak: 6@h gia B/N|pg|| nt|scoubi: ca y est, les résultats sont sur www.ffbridge.asso.fr|pg|| nt|8252: 12 levées noires ici|pg|| nt|flang: les @c 3/3 offrent 12 levées à est ouest |pg|| nt|flang: mais statistiquement pas un très bon chelem|pg|| nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| nt|ladyda: nous aurait-on réservé qqes spéciales pour ce dernier segment?|pg|| mb|1H|nt|sten: n/s do not play 2/1|pg|| nt|kskov: nok|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Det tror jeg også|pg|| nt|kskov: det dør nok ut i 3NT|pg|| nt|aupillon: certesainly . ( danielle, je parle franglais t'affole pas) :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: note on bd. 1 3 nt played in the other room |pg|| nt|frankaus: minor save will earn a few imps but is it really value?|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Our next match will feature Estonia and Sweden, in about 55 minutes|pg|| nt|rmac: only 37 down, not 137|pg|| nt|Gerben42: I much prefer 1NT over Dbl|pg|| nt|aupillon: at the other table they played 3NT. Because they are on the beach, bronzing|pg|| nt|flash: as did Pszczola :)|pg|| nt|henryb: I am not a believer in 4 card overcalls|pg|| nt|phil: why not Henry? |pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: East;s credentials http://worldbridge.org/people/person.asp rated 48th in the WBF rankings|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: http://worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=3391|pg|| mb|2C|nt|frankaus: save does not look attractive to E|pg|| nt|rmac: and i much prefer 2d|pg|| nt|geot: Still a danger of getting to high here for N/S after the light opening bid. Most players open on such a hand though|pg|| nt|westjava: strong opening from west|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: have no reason to lead @s nor to lead for my weak pd|pg|| nt|Gerben42: now @S have been bid, 3NT certain to go down now|pg|| nt|hedyg: i have 3 entries to my hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: ah thats different|pg|| nt|geot: good pass by S|pg|| nt|sten: expecting a pass now on 2h|pg|| nt|geot: ja, etter 2H åpningen er det vanskelig, og i alle fall når han hoppet til 3N. Som vel er ganske normal melding|pg|| nt|stoffers: det som er med onkel wirkola (hegrand), er at det er LITT vanskelig å vite hva han har....|pg|| mb|2H|nt|mcphee: 3@H a bit skinny|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hegrand's hånd er måske for god til en direkte 3NT. Hvad med dobler først fulgt af 3NT?|pg|| nt|kskov: synest Hegrand har for mye her for å hoppe til 3NT. 23 hp.|pg|| nt|cindy: S has no bid there Q of spades is worthless|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: they dont play that one|pg|| nt|rmac: ah|pg|| nt|kotstak: sxetika efkolo symbolaio|pg|| nt|westjava: slam here|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: would be nice if N/S had some sort of invite mthods|pg|| nt|geot: E/W will play ok on diamonds, but will go down. Maybe Smith bid 3H|pg|| nt|aupillon: On appreciera beaucoup la présence de Danielle Avon, une grande championne française|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: hi kibs|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Ralph McNeal|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Men Wirkola hopper altid, ikke sant? :)|pg|| nt|kskov: men det blir nok vanskelig uansett|pg|| nt|stoffers: Regelen er at: når onkel hopper skal han spille det, det er vel de eneste systemavtalene de har!|pg|| nt|geot: hvis han dobler hopper vel øst til 3S|pg|| nt|westjava: 6@H made by S|pg|| nt|westjava: try to go,denny..?|pg|| nt|westjava: 5-4 fit on ur @D|pg|| nt|aupillon: I mean : You play 4 hearts instead of 6 or 7. Now you play 7 clubs instead 6. Are the Norwegian nerves as tight ? In france or italy, 47 infarctus on these 2 boards !|pg|| nt|fifee: bonjour Danielle :) |pg|| nt|aupillon: With an eight card suit the only question you ask yourself is : What is my lho openning lead|pg|| nt|aupillon: Avec une couleur 8 eme in faut jouer et non défendre|pg|| nt|fifee: bienvenue :)|pg|| nt|henryb: Partner canot judge how far to compete, and neither can you as you owe a trump to the "LAW"|pg|| nt|flash: overcalls in 4-card suits have been known to throw off the calculations of LTT adherents :)|pg|| nt|phil: very true|pg|| nt|flash: both as partners and opponents|pg|| pc|cA|nt|mcphee: and it seems they do|pg|| nt|Gerben42: wow, good decision there|pg|| nt|Gerben42: very unusual in Europe to play a W2 in @D|pg|| nt|Gerben42: some play 2@C = W2 @D or strong|pg|| nt|garden2005: G-S licytuj¹ naturalnie po 2@d|pg|| nt|kotstak: kai efkola agorazomeno|pg|| nt|voldenuit: oui ce chelem est à 38%|pg|| nt|phil: of course the opponents have that disadvantage as well|pg|| pc|c3|nt|sybarra: @S being 3/0 just a small pain |pg|| nt|rmac: tx roland|pg|| nt|geot: så 3NT|pg|| nt|garden2005: 2@d sztuczny GF|pg|| pc|c4|nt|mcphee: 2@C a relay to 2@D so they can show this sort of hand|pg|| nt|geot: Tromsø picking up some imps, so it looks like a soccer match, 3-0|pg|| nt|sten: starting with a trumph|pg|| nt|tomek: odwrotki jeszcze sie nie nauczyli:)|pg|| nt|kotstak: alla an paei gia 13 mpazes tha exei problhma|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|mcphee: my bet is this shows poorish trumps|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@s: that will teach you to overcall with nothing!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Irish South opened THREE @D|pg|| nt|fifee: lucky lead|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: West http://worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=16819|pg|| nt|flash: i would imagine Larry is still discussing that point in the other room :)|pg|| pc|cK|nt|frankaus: if W can make only 1 bid then should it be 5NT?|pg|| nt|kotstak: giati oi pikes kakostekoun |pg|| nt|flang: Je suis curieux de savoir ce qui va se passer dans l'autre salle...|pg|| pc|c6|nt|Walddk5: and welcome to Rob Brown|pg|| nt|geot: that solved the diamonds for him, still there are five losers|pg|| pc|cT|nt|ybob: not sure , 2@C any CB, 2@D = no 3@H |pg|| nt|westjava: 32 total hcp...the same contarct in OR|pg|| nt|fifee: for declarer :)|pg|| nt|aupillon: l.h.o. = left hand opponent ( I am asked) en français ca pourrait etre mon ennemi de gauche|pg|| nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|mcphee: uh oh|pg|| nt|ybob: this is french style i think|pg|| nt|mariner1: hi Roland and all|pg|| nt|westjava: passive lead from east|pg|| nt|westjava: good spot|pg|| nt|voldenuit: je parie qu'ils vont y'aller :) |pg|| nt|phil: 2@h a more comfortable spot than 2@s for sure|pg|| nt|henryb: It is my belief that you help partner and mostly let the opponents get into trouble by themselves|pg|| pc|d4|nt|mcphee: that is going to cost a bit of timing|pg|| nt|mgchat: bonjour a tous et bon 1er Mai|pg|| pc|d3|nt|rmac: hi rob|pg|| nt|kamyk: wszystko ju¿ by³o - tak licytowa³o siê w systemie Trybu³y ju¿ 40 lat temu|pg|| nt|kamyk: odwrotka to dobry wynalazek, ale nie z odpowiedziami 4-4,5-5,6-6|pg|| nt|h_karluk: I was busy to describe how 6 @c makeable..meanwhile they were reached a grand..so obviously no way out :(|pg|| pc|dK|nt|mcphee: difficult choice for a lead |pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|ybob: 3@H by N defeat @C lead , 3NT cold with @S lead|pg|| nt|mariner1: hi Ralph|pg|| nt|chmitty: bjr et bon muguet :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: HVis Harr hopper til 3NT, er 3NT for lidt|pg|| nt|Walddk4: til 3@S mener jeg|pg|| nt|geot: :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Da må man i hvert fald melde 4NT kvantitativt|pg|| nt|geot: Han heter jo Trond Tregrand (egentlig:))|pg|| nt|Walddk4: hehe|pg|| nt|kotstak: -1|pg|| nt|kotstak: se kathe periptwsh|pg|| nt|fifee: still off 1 with both club honors badly placed|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: North http://worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=63|pg|| nt|flash: he'll (eventually?) return a @D?|pg|| pc|h6|nt|flang: justement....:)|pg|| nt|flang: ils en sont bien capables|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|mcphee: i hate the J4th lead so much I likely would choose to@D|pg|| nt|westjava: ten tricks: 4@C,3@H,1@D,2@S,thats all|pg|| nt|aupillon: Demis Roussos : Good bye my love goodbye, good bye and aurevoir. As long as you... ( forgot the suite)|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|Gerben42: still would be nice to play with partner not against :)|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|tomek: Kolejny zysk, na drugim stole chyba kolejne male nieporozumienie|pg|| nt|phil: J@h would have saved the trump trick|pg|| pc|s3|nt|h_karluk: declarer lost tempo|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mgchat: :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|vugraph117: hegrand insiting on keeping @d7 in the table.. harr saying it s gonna be an expensive night|pg|| nt|kotstak: den tha mporesei na kopsei pika ston mor o extelesths prin kopsoun oi amynomenoi|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|h_karluk: regained|pg|| nt|chmitty: il faut deviner maintenant|pg|| nt|chmitty: et il n'y a pas vraiment de motif pour trouver !|pg|| nt|hedyg: N is endplayed|pg|| nt|Gerben42: can play @S|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes he can but doesnt want to :)|pg|| nt|flash: now this can be beaten|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Yes in my part of the world we are so aggressive in the bidding that our scorecards have going down on them more often than imaginable.|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Flash it may be beatable but my money is on declarer|pg|| nt|flash: but North's @S3 may be unreadable as low|pg|| nt|phil: yes there's an uppercut available|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: South toying with a low spade|pg|| pc|s5|nt|geot: brb|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Han får ikke sidste stik på @D7|pg|| nt|stoffers: dukke en spar rundt?|pg|| nt|kskov: måtte dukke @h for å klare det|pg|| nt|vugraph117: hagrand get s his beer|pg|| pc|s6|nt|h_karluk: maybe North would overtake and switch @c|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but wants to play something else even less|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| nt|mcphee: only need to unblock our @H and lead a @C up, hard luck for E/w here|pg|| nt|chmitty: le choix est de jouer @h pour le 10 directement ... boum|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 4@H tricks still to lose|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Screen goes down as Drijver asks Altshuler something about their methods|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|nt|chmitty: ou bien de jouer la dame de @h de la main qui oblige Sud à prendre et ensuite de monter un squeeze majeur sur Sud|pg|| nt|kamyk: jaka jest najlepsza wersja odwrotki? - jest chyba z dziesiêæ "najlepszych":)|pg|| nt|garden2005: moja:)|pg|| pc|d7|nt|chmitty: mais il y a d'autres mauvais cas|pg|| nt|kotstak: oute h empas pika sonei thn katastash|pg|| nt|aupillon: rembember me, I'll never be too far.. Yes. Thank you Radu|pg|| nt|ladyda: 1 position théorique gagnante r@h sec |pg|| nt|aupillon: oui. mais qu'il tire un atout encore...|pg|| nt|aupillon: Lady said that the ONLY winning position is King STIFF ( singleton) now|pg|| nt|fifee: so true|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|flash: low trump|pg|| pc|d2|nt|flash: dummy-locked|pg|| pc|c8|nt|voldenuit: ils sont à l'attaque dans l'autre salle avec l'intervention à 1@s à la donne 3 et l'enchère de 4@s à la 2 |pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| nt|flash: it's not immediately apparent what lay-out that catered to... |pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Only one more trump to lose from here - heart to ace and a club off the board|pg|| nt|phil: no trumps if S doesnt uppercut|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Indeed but assume he will|pg|| pc|h5|nt|flang: a fortiori parce qu'ils se savent non favoris et vouloir donner un petit coup de pouce au destin .....|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| nt|h_karluk: at least gain to discard a @s loser|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Even a spade now will work|pg|| nt|flash: on the actual lay-out, he can even play a @S now|pg|| pc|sA|nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| pc|s4|nt|kotstak: pantws h empas pika eitan ypoxrewtikh den xerw giati den thn ekane o extelesths|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST74HT75DQ952CKJ3,SAKQJ8HDAJ864C974,S962HAQ842DT3CA62,S53HKJ963DK7CQT85|sv|e|nt|sommer: agree, but still makeable with hard work|pg|| nt|hedyg: harder:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: nope,overruled i think:)|pg|| nt|kalliste: une donne mouvementée surement|pg|| nt|mgchat: cette donne devrait creer du mouvement|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: much:)|pg|| nt|mgchat: steph = copieur lol|pg|| nt|kalliste: j'ai dit avant:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: 1 or 2 @H opener ?|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahh: i would open 1 |pg|| nt|bouncer: my style 1@H|pg|| nt|tmice: 3NT E/W.......|pg|| nt|ahh: @S suit too good to preempt with 2@H|pg|| nt|mgchat: c malheureusement exact|pg|| nt|kalliste: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: ..as expected, Germany gained 9 imps on the 4@S-1 in b30|pg|| nt|hedyg: cant have everything, @ss come in nicely, Q@H offside|pg|| mb|1N|nt|sten: mised that trick ... was talking about going up with the club King|pg|| mb|p|nt|liujing: 1@S? ²»ÊÇ½ÐµÄ 1@H?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|bouncer: they used shortsuit game try in OR|pg|| nt|bouncer: maybe he bid 2nt here|pg|| nt|bouncer: will|pg|| nt|mgchat: 1@s ne serait pas forcing en Nord ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: swap @S and a minor and would not object to 2@H in second seat|pg|| mb|2N|nt|kalliste: je prefere 1@s plutôt que 2@c et fité @h par la suite, le partenaire pouvant mieux juger|pg|| nt|kalliste: fiter|pg|| nt|kalliste: oui forcing|pg|| nt|mgchat: moi aussi, paérfois lezs doubles fits apportant des elements de decision|pg|| nt|kalliste: même si ca impose le palier de trois|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: well, 4@H was quite a bid here!|pg|| nt|bouncer: agree|pg|| nt|ahh: hate 4@S bid |pg|| mb|3C|nt|hedyg: 2@D multi|pg|| nt|minnie lee: I would have led the @c7|pg|| nt|andersk: Welcome to jon sveindal from norway|pg|| nt|onebid: Hi Jon|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi all|pg|| nt|tmice: yes me to..|pg|| nt|ahh: too unilateral |pg|| nt|bouncer: yup,|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2@H relay, 3@H transfer|pg|| nt|bouncer: well good start:)|pg|| nt|ahh: lot of timber fell at trick 1|pg|| mb|p|nt|sommer: 2NT, 19-20 it seems|pg|| nt|stewball: hey Jon|pg|| nt|aldek: w otwarte karty mozna tutaj koncowke wygrac|pg|| nt|mgchat: palier parfait|pg|| mb|p|nt|sten: no good slam|pg|| nt|bouncer: nope|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|nt|hedyg: or 20/21 with upgrade:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: duck a @S and play the @S for 3-3|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jbgood: may take nine if N ducks hearts two times|pg|| nt|vugraph117: A Roland slam? :)|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|sten: well he isn't here now so he can't defend himself|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|garden2005: le¿enie gotowe, tylko bez ilu?|pg|| pc|c7|nt|sommer: yes, the 10's are good enough for that|pg|| pc|c6|nt|bouncer: need @S 3-3 win |pg|| pc|c5|nt|kalliste: la dame@d a le bon gout d'être deplacée|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|nt|Walddk5: Good news for our many Helgemo supporters. He will be on vugraph for the Heimdal 2 match at 19.45 local time, in about 1 hour and 45 minutes|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jbgood: diff to find the spade shift now|pg|| nt|onebid: Leaving you in good hands. Bye all.|pg|| nt|bouncer: next time Terje rush to get the Aof@C,and 10 @H in tempo:) may Rune try thrA|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|hedyg: looking to disc a @c|pg|| pc|dK|nt|mgchat: maintenant il va defausser 1@d sur le valet de @s|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|garden2005: @c?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|hedyg: Drijver wide awake:)|pg|| nt|ahh: 93 or so |pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|garden2005: i to s¹ momenty tracenia czasu|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Vugraph34: 2@Ds was different strong hands, 2@H was NT 20/21|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Martin:)|pg|| nt|sommer: who knows, what would happen with a "quick" @Hduck?:)) ..on @HJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|hedyg: oooops|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h2|pc|h9|nt|hedyg: no entry to dummy to pull last trump|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h8|pc|c8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d6|mc|8|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST74HT75DQ952CKJ3,SAKQJ8HDAJ864C974,S962HAQ842DT3CA62,S53HKJ963DK7CQT85|sv|e|nt|sybarra: -3 or 4 frank in 6 @D?|pg|| nt|mariner1: seems a close match of only 1 imp|pg|| nt|rmac: not good breaking hand|pg|| nt|h_karluk: bloody board at first sight|pg|| nt|vugraph35: discussion at the table... but I don't understand anything :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: Ah un peu de bagarre en perspective|pg|| nt|hedyg: got away cheap|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the board is still bound to be good for Germany|pg|| nt|h_karluk: likely 4 @s|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Wladow might do better than -2 after that openig|pg|| nt|westjava: 3@S|pg|| nt|westjava: tied score now|pg|| nt|garden2005: sprzed lat 12tu|pg|| nt|westjava: well done "bang" mun|pg|| nt|aupillon: how many spades in E/W ,|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4, I guess|pg|| nt|aupillon: difficult for Grosset to accept a NT conclusion|pg|| nt|flash: 3 more IMPs it is; lead starting to get significant|pg|| nt|flash: they're on the last board in the other room|pg|| nt|flash: so we'll expect an influx shortly...|pg|| mb|p|nt|mariner1: nothing plays well eithe way here|pg|| nt|drdepp: les mains NS presentent des choi qui revelent la philosophie du joueur. certains (hors de la France, ca va sans dire) qui essayeraient 3T comme donneur. mais dans le monde entier ...|pg|| nt|drdepp: il y a beaucoup d'adherents d'une surenchere de 3P en S|pg|| nt|hedyg: should be|pg|| nt|westjava: 4@H or 4@S NS|pg|| nt|voldenuit: oui et en plus tous les favoris sont dans leur ligne |pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: wow|pg|| nt|chmitty: si tout le monde fait son boulot NS doivent aller jusqu'au palier de 6 ...|pg|| nt|westjava: they play 16 boards|pg|| mb|1S|nt|sybarra: I think maybe one too many?|pg|| nt|frankaus: defending with 0166 NV is a unpopular view but 5NT may push them to a making slam|pg|| nt|mcphee: 2@S definetly not my cup of tea|pg|| nt|rmac: better to defend|pg|| nt|h_karluk: seems a flat board|pg|| nt|aupillon: 1D-1S-2C( or 1NT) -n hearts 3NT 4 H -4spades, Iguess|pg|| nt|flash: about 40 minutes left on the clock (including grace period)|pg|| mb|p|nt|geot: Looks like a normal 3N E/W, will make easily. Diamonds are friendly|pg|| nt|aupillon: Good pre-emptive at ANY level in clubs|pg|| nt|cindy: now this is a good grand|pg|| nt|aupillon: 7 hearts . hard to bid 8 clubs :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 3 and 4 @d i suppose|pg|| mb|2H|nt|mariner1: I would probably opened S 2@d if available,, I don't think the French have that though|pg|| nt|rmac: east did well not to stretch to bid|pg|| nt|sten: should be an easy 3NT here|pg|| mb|p|nt|h_karluk: between NS? they are brothers:) North is elder|pg|| nt|vugraph35: yes, between N/S|pg|| nt|westjava: pre empt by denny|pg|| nt|cindy: i like a nice straightforward 3H bid by E|pg|| nt|cindy: set trumps and cue from there|pg|| mb|3D|nt|rmac: unlucky french|pg|| nt|Gerben42: see, 1@S alerted as "could be 3" |pg|| nt|sten: first real swing in the match|pg|| nt|geot: The so called Ekrens 2D was not a success in OR on board 4, the normal 4H going down.|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hvor hoppe Hegrand nu hen?|pg|| nt|stoffers: haha|pg|| nt|flang: je vais voir je reviens:)|pg|| nt|flang: en sont déjà à 4sa|pg|| nt|aupillon: good too|pg|| nt|aupillon: 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|westjava: but no problem|pg|| nt|westjava: normal lead|pg|| nt|cindy: 4C took up too much room|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i vote for natural sequence here - to me i am obliged to tell what i have in my collection..so 3 and 4 @d is on my methods|pg|| nt|cindy: now rkc does no good|pg|| nt|aupillon: absolutely. Curious thing but the strong jumps are more and more forgotten these days because of the small frequency.|pg|| nt|phil: 3N looks rather interesting|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: 30 minuts left and 4 boards here|pg|| mb|3N|nt|fifee: 3 quick losers but a @H lead and transportation problems|pg|| mb|p|nt|h_karluk: i guess the issue--most probably South started discussion..why not overtook @d and switched @c :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@d relay|pg|| nt|hedyg: no|pg|| nt|hedyg: seems to be showing a minimum hand|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 2@HXX is close|pg|| nt|h_karluk: brown sticker ?|pg|| nt|geot: E/W ended in 2S x going 500 , on a 4-3 split|pg|| nt|geot: 12 to Tromsø, up by 15 now|pg|| nt|Walddk4: OK, til 6@C|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Er det ikke det 3@CX er?|pg|| nt|stoffers: hehe..vel, sitter fint for spillefører her..blir ca 8-9 stikk dette vel?|pg|| nt|westjava: 20-20 hcp|pg|| nt|kotstak: den exoun kalo symbolaio oi E/W |pg|| nt|cindy: i dont like to muddy the water by bidding diamonds|pg|| nt|kalliste: Vinay veut faire un petit effort de chelem sans doute|pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 H-4Spades|pg|| nt|fifee: in 4@S|pg|| nt|ladyda: pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: dommage|pg|| nt|geot: Declarer has a problem here, he dont know diamonds are 3-3|pg|| nt|stoffers: jeg sier 8|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Ja, Harr har ingen defensiv hånd|pg|| nt|westjava: no @S partner..?|pg|| nt|aupillon: je ne parie pas|pg|| nt|aupillon: I don't bet |pg|| nt|ladyda: 3@h montre déjà 55|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: this one will not scramble home|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I will make an early prediction of a make here|pg|| nt|flash: Roy Welland led a safe @ST|pg|| nt|phil: 8 easy tricks but declarer is a long way from 9|pg|| nt|flash: on a more informative auction(?)|pg|| nt|phil: the spade should work fine|pg|| nt|flash: crowd building; done in the Open Room|pg|| pc|d5|nt|rmac: 2d being an intermediate 2 bid?|pg|| nt|ritong: ç eut été le commentaire de la semaine, sinon bonjour pierre|pg|| nt|cindy: prefer to tell my partner we have a heart fit|pg|| nt|phil: its really the diamond suit that needs to be attacked |pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: One heart on dummy and this would be a lock|pg|| nt|flash: is this really as close as the position of the @CJ?|pg|| pc|d6|nt|sybarra: a bit to do here, in a common contract |pg|| nt|vugraph35: 2@D 11+ without 4c M|pg|| nt|chmitty: Je trouve Nord pas très combatif sur ce coup là|pg|| nt|chmitty: Salut HEnri|pg|| nt|mgchat: surtout avec une vulnerabilité favorable|pg|| nt|chmitty: mettez l'as de @c en Sud au lieu du Roi et il FAIT le chelem .. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: would make I think|pg|| nt|hedyg: last bd i only see 6 tricks in EW........|pg|| nt|hedyg: dont see where they got another|pg|| nt|Gerben42: yes should have been -2, dont know why not|pg|| nt|hedyg: should be -2|pg|| nt|vugraph35: don't know... was claimed for one down|pg|| nt|geot: If he cash them from top there is no quick entry if he has to establish the suit|pg|| nt|sten: also that the clubs are 6-1|pg|| nt|geot: yes, but he is lacking tricks, so he will try diamonds from top, I think|pg|| nt|geot: with only four diamond tricks it wud have been a long way to 9|pg|| nt|geot: that is just what he now is thinking about....if he have needed only four diamond tricks he could have played a low diamond from dummy,keeping communication to West's hand|pg|| nt|geot: I am sorry frds, but need to move from this place to another now...so will be away for about ten minutes|pg|| nt|geot: Sten holds the fort:)|pg|| nt|sten: thanx GeO|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Declarer still thinking|pg|| nt|aupillon: Sorry to say that but the Splinter with a void is no as good|pg|| nt|cindy: partner will never believe you have a primary heart fit if you bid diamonds first|pg|| nt|h_karluk: unless i tell how come we will know we have 8+ side suit strength--is not also tells shape|pg|| nt|aupillon: Better would have been 3 diamonds. 7 now|pg|| nt|h_karluk: over 4 d i think i have chance to tell h|pg|| nt|cindy: of course but partner will never believe you have Kxxx|pg|| nt|cindy: sounds like a cue bid then|pg|| pc|dT|nt|mcphee: 3N on the other hand had a chance|pg|| nt|vugraph35: can't tell ou more... I don't understand Turkey :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok, no @H lead but then what?|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok Merle, not your fault:)|pg|| nt|stoffers: de har vel en regel til; når onkel dobler melder du ikek mere!|pg|| nt|westjava: draw trump and backward finess of @S|pg|| nt|phil: appears to be|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|flang: longue hésitation chez Chassagne sur 4 sa dame valet de @s ce n'est pas rien|pg|| nt|aupillon: Chez les jeunes aussi ? :)|pg|| nt|ladyda: ben oui|pg|| nt|fifee: no @H lead with the bidding, so 4@S should be fine|pg|| nt|aupillon: J'ai rajeuni ! I became younger : Youppi !|pg|| pc|d7|nt|Gerben42: 2@D = GF, 3+@S|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 2@H = 7 - 10, 4@S|pg|| nt|h_karluk: even carry some relay methods of highly unusual "red sticker"|pg|| nt|Gerben42: no... was papa mama Polish @C here|pg|| nt|kotstak: Me kalh amyna - 1|pg|| nt|flash: as a reminder (and a great way to run a VP event), boards are duplicated across the field|pg|| pc|d2|nt|mariner1: no I play it 6-11 old school and P is a passed hand so this fits|pg|| nt|hedyg: small @C?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @h lead is logical, dummy has the strong @H |pg|| nt|hedyg: will play @d|pg|| nt|westjava: cash his top@D|pg|| nt|aupillon: and spade/ et pique|pg|| pc|dA|nt|h_karluk: but not a "green sticker" :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: just with alerting the possible babypsyche that Hanlon made on 18|pg|| nt|westjava: need entry to dummy|pg|| nt|flang: ça y est il a mis 6!:)|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|h_karluk: well not a big deal :) 1 IMP|pg|| nt|aupillon: the DOUBLE fit is essential in calling Grand Slams. If we cannot show this, we are no good. Sorry about this, but's true|pg|| nt|flash: no situations where one team plays pancakes and another goulies|pg|| pc|s9|nt|hedyg: he sees 8 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: needs 1 more|pg|| nt|westjava: why not take over by Ace...then J@D for @C|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ritong: en l occurence lz defense optimum contre 6@d faisait chuter de deux, je crois, avec la coupe a @c|pg|| nt|flang: c'est bien ce que je pensais et c'est tout à fait dans le style du joueur|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|kotstak: kamia tyxh pleon|pg|| nt|flang: du coup j'en ai loupé cette donneci...|pg|| nt|aupillon: ben si tu veux.. :(|pg|| nt|flash: down 2 likely now|pg|| nt|phil: going for the swindle here - hoping the defense doent find the club shift - but South can count 9 tricks if he doesnt get busy|pg|| pc|h7|nt|vugraph35: (hesitating for getting coffee and water at the table :)|pg|| pc|c4|nt|h_karluk: still bloody board as i noticed at first sight|pg|| nt|h_karluk: obviously wld pull @c A after think a lot|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i can guarantee 2 mins|pg|| nt|Gerben42: there it is |pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: lets find some more|pg|| nt|Gerben42: many more possible, @CJ and 4th @D|pg|| nt|stoffers: må vel tape 1@h og 2@c, om han ikek får GOD hjelp|pg|| nt|westjava: yup|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kskov: Tromsø bomma forsvaret mot 4@s i åpent, dermed har Vikersund tatt teten|pg|| nt|westjava: so far so good|pg|| nt|westjava: other table: north sulawesi vs south sulawesi|pg|| nt|flang: raconte Aymeric|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|flash: the lead of the @H7 should suffice to get North NOT to return a @H|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Gerben42: i dont like "green sticker" systems much|pg|| nt|cindy: they can play in 7D just as easily|pg|| nt|flash: wow|pg|| nt|phil: or not|pg|| nt|flash: @HJ and home|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: !JH about 6" above the table while Brinks thinks|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Back in his hand|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|nt|rmac: too strong imo lot of playing potential|pg|| nt|h_karluk: it was the point i tried to notice|pg|| nt|cindy: your auction would lead to 7D but thats just as good|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|hK|nt|frankaus: could not untangle @S for the defence|pg|| nt|vugraph35: North does not know the @S cannot be played |pg|| nt|drdepp: la lecon la plus importante fournie par cette donne, c'est que E devrait prevoir lors du premier tour d'encheres les problemes qui pourraient lui arriver au deuxieme ...|pg|| nt|drdepp: tour--precisement, si l'ouvreur dit 2T ( asuivre)|pg|| pc|h5|nt|h_karluk: and another @c|pg|| nt|hedyg: so far so good|pg|| pc|d8|nt|mariner1: I like that I am NV and O's are VUL and I factor in the passed partner and take my chances|pg|| nt|h_karluk: may let to table|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Dr is a cunning player|pg|| nt|h_karluk: yet @s KQ appeared on East|pg|| nt|phil: a big 12 back to Welland|pg|| mc|9|nt|Vugraphcv2: Something back into the chest|pg|| nt|flash: that's the 2nd board where i'm not convinced the defense was sufficiently considered (obviously not well-considered)|pg|| nt|phil: hows the table now David? |pg|| nt|flash: for the specs, that's polite commentator speak for $&&&%&%|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Israelis being very animated under the screen as the director comes to the room and ask which one should we shoot|pg|| nt|phil: LOL|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SJ973HAQ7DK5CA975,SAKQ65HT52DQ93CKJ,SHJ9863D8764C8642,ST842HK4DAJT2CQT3|sv|b|nt|jbgood: by Judy|pg|| nt|minnie lee: bye Judy|pg|| nt|bouncer: i think the J of @C was the only card to give him 4@S|pg|| nt|ahh: looks like it |pg|| nt|ahh: missed chance as 3nt was going to make |pg|| nt|bouncer: y|pg|| mb|1N|an|15-17|nt|ahh: more 4 @S this time but this will be a challenge|pg|| nt|tmice: they might try 3NT this time then:):)|pg|| nt|bouncer: wow ,big score in OR|pg|| mb|p|nt|minnie lee: Hi Jon|pg|| nt|jbgood: As Terje Aa is in the open room we will never get any live comparisons......|pg|| nt|minnie lee: didn'r "see" yu Anders, hi there:)|pg|| nt|aldek: ladny szlemik karowy |pg|| nt|sten: what a board in the open room!!|pg|| mb|2D!|an|transfer|nt|sommer: 3NT W is possible on @Slead|pg|| nt|hedyg: again?|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@H relay|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: Wladow now corrected the system in NT 18/19;)|pg|| nt|aldek: ciekawy problem dla Skrzypczaka|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: lol ok|pg|| nt|ahh: obvious lead directing overcall |pg|| mb|2H|nt|bouncer: stop in 3@S maybe|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| mb|2S|nt|sommer: well well...this can't be upgraded to 20|pg|| nt|aldek: dobrze rozwiazal, moim zdaniem|pg|| nt|aldek: na wysosci 5-ciu nie ma znaczenia w co sie gra, kiery czy kara|pg|| nt|bouncer: o no:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|aldek: teraz musi sobie wyobrazic single kier u partnera|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: west likes the sound of 4@S :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|garden2005: "2BA = fit @s, limit or GF bez ³adnych r¹k" - t³umaczenie na kartce|pg|| nt|ahh: played by east 4@S better on @H lead |pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: @H lead would kill dummy|pg|| nt|hedyg: but he will lead @s|pg|| nt|jbgood: this 3 d bid is called Okunef?|pg|| nt|stewball: standard lead of an Ace against such an aution...|pg|| nt|aldek: brawo|pg|| nt|garden2005: poszed³ jak po swoje|pg|| pc|d6|nt|sommer: yes, @Slead is normal, but is that enough?|pg|| nt|hedyg: still down|pg|| nt|sommer: looks like -1 or 2 still|pg|| nt|ahh: on the lie of course |pg|| pc|dA|nt|hedyg: i dont think there was a way to play 3@d in their system|pg|| nt|bouncer: would u X neg on those cards. u have Qx in @H|pg|| nt|tmice: Running score: http://live.bk2000.org/Team.aspx|pg|| nt|ahh: may as well play @H back and let defence open a suit |pg|| nt|ahh: on face of it need to avoid @S loser and get lucky in minors to make |pg|| nt|bouncer: y,but this look heavy,when not Q held|pg|| nt|kalliste: un stayman tentant, malgré les 7 pts|pg|| pc|d5|nt|sommer: his chance is ducking first @S and get more @S to A|pg|| nt|sommer: ..I think...|pg|| nt|hedyg: it was pass over 2NT or 3NT|pg|| nt|kalliste: l'espoir de decouvrir un fit @h |pg|| nt|mgchat: qui va sans doute couter cher|pg|| nt|kalliste: le flanc doit être attentif |pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|hedyg: no reason to switch!|pg|| nt|sommer: ...but still seems impossible|pg|| nt|jbgood: indeed - very important to remember|pg|| pc|s2|nt|sten: Hegrand doubled 4d and Harr didn't lead diamonds|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|garden2005: obowi¹zuje t³umaczenie odzywek sztucznych po obu stronach deski wy³¹cznie na piœmie|pg|| nt|garden2005: dowody rzeczowe:)|pg|| nt|garden2005: w przypadku sporu|pg|| nt|bouncer: well now are they headed for 6@C|pg|| nt|sten: not|pg|| nt|bouncer: and dont think jørgen is leading a @D|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahh: will the Q play work ?|pg|| nt|mgchat: je trouve cette enchere un tantinet exagérée, surtout lorsque les SA deviennent de plus en plus atypique|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ahh: would if dec had the 9|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jbgood: no 4th best ag such a sequence if you have an ace..|pg|| nt|bouncer: no Terje must X|pg|| nt|sten: maybe after a double now ..|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Now he is|pg|| nt|mgchat: prevision = -7|pg|| pc|c3|nt|bouncer: :)|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|bouncer: taking time:)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d2|nt|bouncer: hm,a push now:)|pg|| nt|sten: probably|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|sten: a push board then|pg|| pc|cA|nt|bouncer: not easy |pg|| nt|sten: certainly not|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Jørgen sais he didnt see the "X"...shows at least A or K|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|Vugraph34: Elinescu said after Wladow winning the 2nd @S-trick: you always have to switch when he ducks:)|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|ahh: good duck|pg|| nt|tmice: well Per, Nils, did arrive in 3@c on board 4, not 6:) |pg|| nt|bouncer: lol|pg|| nt|bouncer: small @D now|pg|| pc|h6|nt|sommer: -2 and 5 imps to Netherland|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol not this time|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SJ973HAQ7DK5CA975,SAKQ65HT52DQ93CKJ,SHJ9863D8764C8642,ST842HK4DAJT2CQT3|sv|b|nt|sybarra: oh, so we had a revoke |pg|| nt|sybarra: by declarer |pg|| nt|sybarra: TBR=touney bridge rules I guess |pg|| nt|ybob: i think Q @H denies J here|pg|| nt|mcphee: i agree with that|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: very big fght at the table|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: fight|pg|| nt|drdepp: s'il hesite et reflechit au deuxieme tour, c-a-d APRES l'enchere de Ouest qui lui pose un probleme, il se peut fort que Ouest se trouve en diffulcte au niveau d'ethique a son ...|pg|| nt|drdepp: prochain tour.|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Very humorous at the table now, :)|pg|| nt|westjava: very good result|pg|| nt|kotstak: agria dianomh|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Welcome to John Hornibrook from Australia|pg|| nt|johnnybear: hi all, thanks Roland|pg|| nt|westjava: six nt for west java in OR,board 5|pg|| nt|h_karluk: brb|pg|| nt|h_karluk: time to inject insuline:(|pg|| nt|cindy: not quite i guess because with 10 hearts a heart ruff more likely|pg|| nt|aupillon: My sequence : 1 spade- 2 hearts- 3 hearts (ultra forcing) 4 diamonds , etc|pg|| nt|aupillon: well joué|pg|| mb|1C|nt|mcphee: not a good sign|pg|| nt|flang: nord sud au niveau de 3 et est ouest au niveau de 4|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ybob: i open 2@S with W|pg|| nt|h_karluk: the penultimate board here|pg|| nt|westjava: now,25 vs 15 hcp |pg|| nt|flang: ensuite c'estla chute|pg|| nt|kalliste: 3@h semblent chuter deja|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: let me remind you that E is our fellow commentator David Greenwood|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the frisky 3@H overcall on 11 didnt get doubled but still cost 11 IMPs when the other table played 4@S|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 2@D = careful|pg|| nt|westjava: 2@C by taufik,@C + upper|pg|| nt|westjava: hi John,nice to have you here :)|pg|| mb|3C!|an|Mixed Raise|nt|rmac: i think passing 2d is much too timid|pg|| nt|phil: North always needs a club tricj along with pard's presumed @hKTx - why not may down the A and get a signal? |pg|| nt|phil: lay|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph35: the ruling can be other than you know it from tournaments in the past :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: I have to go ... safe to say congratulations to team Germany! thanks all|pg|| nt|westjava: tks Roland:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: let's paly 4 hearts to calm nerves a bit|pg|| nt|aupillon: play|pg|| nt|aupillon: interesting donne/board|pg|| mb|4S|nt|hedyg: will this keep them out of slam?|pg|| nt|vugraph35: for all results have a look on http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/Englisch/Englisch_00_Frame.html|pg|| nt|Walddk1: np|pg|| nt|flang: oui bien sûr désolé ....|pg|| nt|aupillon: 2 diamonds to put pression|pg|| nt|aupillon: pressure|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: other room over reached on bd. 3 |pg|| nt|h_karluk: today BBO Vugraph panelists are highly busy--i started at 5.20 a..took a break 2.30p..same time i saw 9 live table transactatons.|pg|| nt|rmac: tx see you|pg|| nt|h_karluk: thanks Gerben|pg|| nt|vugraph35: bye!|pg|| nt|westjava: ohh sry,1@S pening by S|pg|| nt|westjava: I dont see:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: not any more......|pg|| nt|johnnybear: hi, so for the late comers, E-W playing a precision-type system?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mariner1: wow thay lepy all the way to 1@h well done|pg|| nt|rmac: what is north ashamed of?|pg|| nt|mariner1: lept|pg|| nt|aupillon: cool now|pg|| pc|c4|nt|flang: de + 200 Frédéric et Godeffroy vont passer à -100|pg|| nt|flash: note the Jump Q as a mixed raise (a bit of offense, a bit of defense) - a useful treatment for an otherwise idle call|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: 1 down in OR looks like a good result|pg|| pc|c3|nt|sybarra: will suggest they not try 3 nt here |pg|| nt|sten: another 3NT here|pg|| nt|garden2005: 2@h najni¿szekarta od 11+, a wszystkie inne rebidy od 2@s do 4@s ze strefy 7-10 (ustawienie znaczeñ dowolne wed³ug ¿yczeñ) |pg|| nt|kotstak: 4 pikes par ola afta gia E/W|pg|| nt|westjava: yes John,both of them|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ybob: win now|pg|| nt|ybob: with only @C lead win |pg|| nt|mcphee: i suppose he must run this|pg|| nt|sybarra: I like lepy |pg|| nt|mariner1: they even|pg|| nt|mariner1: hi Shirley|pg|| nt|rmac: seems a good solid opener to me|pg|| nt|mjc12: 1@h est forcing étrange|pg|| nt|drdepp: apres une pause assez nette et puis 2K, avec certaines mains qui produisent neuf levees a SA Ouest pourrait bien sentir des contraintes. soit il passe, soit les adversaires ...|pg|| nt|drdepp: appelent la surete|pg|| nt|chmitty: Il serait bien que Sud duque l'entame|pg|| nt|westjava: should be @H lead...|pg|| nt|garden2005: zachowuje przestrzeñ dla strefy szlemowej, ot ca³y sukces|pg|| nt|tomek: Tym razem Bogus rozpoczal licytacje z 10 PC, wybijajac przeciwnikow z wychodzacych 3ba|pg|| nt|johnnybear: seems unusual to lead the @sQ here|pg|| nt|westjava: prec basic with some modification,of course|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|chmitty: le bon cas c'est celui de l'espèce|pg|| nt|h_karluk: *transactions|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Og de gik ned i 6NT på spil 5|pg|| nt|aupillon: et voilà|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I guess losing 1-2-1-1|pg|| nt|phil: unlucky lead but it isnt enough with trumps 4-0|pg|| nt|flash: for which side, David? :) unblocking there would have retained chances|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Just looks worse with everything offside and a 4-0 trump break|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Looks like double dummy you could draw one round of trumps cash clubs out and play Ace another diamond to make perhaps|pg|| pc|c5|nt|frankaus: nice auction to par spot|pg|| nt|vugraph35: if they get diamond lead, better to play A of spades or finesse? |pg|| nt|vugraph35: wow, they get @D lead|pg|| nt|Gerben42: NS have huge hands and know it|pg|| nt|hedyg: 4 keycards in @H|pg|| nt|Gerben42: except that @S is rump|pg|| nt|hedyg: are you sure? i am not|pg|| nt|Gerben42: yes, sure|pg|| nt|sten: with AK of hearts right it should be ok |pg|| nt|westjava: 6@D, and three Aces|pg|| nt|aupillon: he'll never dare ...|pg|| nt|cindy: would be a practice finesse|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Skim is asking about leading methods :)|pg|| nt|cindy: no purpose|pg|| nt|aupillon: in pairs I call that mandatory|pg|| nt|ladyda: -1 next?|pg|| pc|cK|nt|vugraph35: now declarer has to guess right in @S if to finesse or not|pg|| nt|h_karluk: they do not needed drury or reverse drury|pg|| nt|chmitty: le mauvais c'est si sud a l'as de @c sec|pg|| nt|chmitty: ouest pardon|pg|| nt|chmitty: et défausse ses @h sur les @c en montant au roi de @s|pg|| nt|johnnybear: even without partner's overcall, there are grounds for leading a heart, considering the entry-less south hand|pg|| nt|aupillon: by principle|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Walddk4: Den var oplagt med singleton @SK i Nord|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok:)|pg|| nt|kotstak: dyskolo symbolaio|pg|| nt|johnnybear: given partner's call vulnerable two-level call, I would have thought it would have been clear|pg|| nt|cindy: nothing to gain|pg|| nt|aupillon: this is the kind of board I always overbid myself. But when I see the others do it, I get calm with myself...|pg|| nt|flash: perhaps (with the unblock), able to pitch a @H and strip the hand?|pg|| pc|sA|nt|h_karluk: seems flat board |pg|| nt|drdepp: mais si Est planifie sa deuxieme enchere deja au premier tour d'encheres, il pourra au deuxieme tour glisser son 2K au rhythme qu'il faut|pg|| nt|hedyg: so 5@d asks for Q@s and 5@s denies|pg|| nt|Gerben42: yes, back to trump denies the Q|pg|| nt|Gerben42: maybe thinking about 4-1 trump division after preempt|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but should not worry too much|pg|| nt|hedyg: S could have bid 3NT over 3@d|pg|| nt|hedyg: it was an option for sure|pg|| nt|Gerben42: might bid 5NT choice of slams, keep open 6@C in case Smirnov has the @C variation|pg|| nt|sten: even an overtrick|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s2|nt|hedyg: well, @cs are out now|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Men Smith spillede 10'en fra hånden!??|pg|| nt|stoffers: han spilte T@s..|pg|| nt|aupillon: enerving opps :)|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|rmac: hi shirley, hi michael|pg|| nt|ritong: il a passé d entrée|pg|| nt|westjava: any lead:)|pg|| nt|kotstak: den mporei na erthei sto xeri o extelestis opote mallon -1|pg|| nt|cindy: opps would think he had lost his mind|pg|| nt|cindy: a spade looked right at trick two|pg|| nt|cindy: instead of a trump|pg|| nt|h_karluk: back, seems traditions changed..in good old days we exchanged CC b4 tuff team matches|pg|| nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Ah yes as noted that would still be one down|pg|| nt|phil: I dont think that works unless S gives away his trump trick|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Pretty good contract you would want to be in every day of the week|pg|| nt|phil: absolutely|pg|| nt|flash: 10 winners after 4 losers again? :) picking up the trump suit was possible, but only with mirrors?|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: 15 minutes and 2.5 boards to play|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Yes if you pick up this trump suit there would be an investigation I suspect|pg|| nt|ritong: not necessarily|pg|| nt|flash: salut, Henri|pg|| nt|ritong: just play a temppting @s 10|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Bonjour Henri|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ybob: is good duck to play later for @H 3/3 too|pg|| nt|Gerben42: dont know what 6@D is|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Germany won 7 on the hand with 2@S down here... 3N-2|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 13 more here ... starting to get too much for Ireland|pg|| nt|hedyg: wonder what he is thinking|pg|| nt|Gerben42: me too, not much to do when opps have @SQ|pg|| nt|Gerben42: maybe 6NT|pg|| nt|ritong: and try to get back to dummy three times:)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|rmac: hi henri|pg|| nt|stoffers: ja, så gjennom movie nå|pg|| nt|tomek: Chyba nalezalo polozyc dame, bo 10 teoretycznie nic nie daje|pg|| pc|d2|nt|h_karluk: too slow here |pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|ritong: hi there|pg|| nt|hedyg: knows nothing about Q@D|pg|| nt|phil: does he even have the entries to triple hook? |pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: And which joker would cover|pg|| nt|ritong: we said " tempting"|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| pc|hA|nt|frankaus: oooooppppppps|pg|| nt|sybarra: and down we go |pg|| nt|vugraph35: @C A now to get pds count in @C |pg|| nt|sybarra: spirit of convictions to continue, (counting I hope |pg|| nt|vugraph35: still does not know pd having 1 or 2 diamonds|pg|| nt|frankaus: -2 even possible|pg|| nt|vugraph35: -2? east can only ruff 1 time|pg|| nt|sybarra: cash k of hts, then diam. |pg|| nt|sybarra: and club |pg|| nt|vugraph35: ok, did not see @H K :) |pg|| nt|frankaus: oncne u lead @D u must follow throuh IMO|pg|| nt|vugraph35: I told them... but they won t play faster|pg|| nt|chmitty: là c'est cuit pour NS|pg|| nt|vugraph35: N isn't very happy!|pg|| nt|aupillon: Comme je disais une fois : je joue assez mal mais quand je regarde autour de moi je commence à prendre confiance|pg|| mc|9|nt|h_karluk: you are right Merle|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Tez and Zafer are "speedy gonzales" players :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: he should be!|pg|| nt|flash: speeding up the play...|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2ST9HKQJ53D7C65432,SQJ875HA64DK98CQ8,S32HT82DQJT652CJT,SAK64H97DA43CAK97|sv|o|nt|hedyg: ty Martin:) great job again!|pg|| nt|aldek: a teraz misfit na EW|pg|| nt|garden2005: niez³e lañsko|pg|| nt|garden2005: sprawdzimy odpornoœæ naszych Pañ na ciosy:)|pg|| nt|bouncer: "@H from W |pg|| nt|bouncer: 2|pg|| nt|ahh: 3nt easiest game for n/s|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Rognved said he thought his partner draw the wrong card|pg|| nt|sten: but it was Terje's lead against 6NT|pg|| nt|bouncer: yup|pg|| nt|kalliste: ligne de jeu possible, 4 tours de @c deux tours @d avec impasse et @s , et passer la bonne à @h en fin|pg|| nt|mgchat: CELLE CI AUSSI POURRAIT FAIRE UN ECART|pg|| nt|kalliste: avec roi@d placé evidement|pg|| nt|mgchat: Stephane, Noel c le 25 decembre|pg|| nt|kalliste: :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: ty Povl:)|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: thx to you for filling the other box;)|pg|| nt|hedyg: Our appreciation to Deutscher Bridge-Verband (German Bridge Federation) for ensuring that this prestigious event is brought to BBO vugraph. Peter Eidt has been instrumental in ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: setting up a fine show|pg|| nt|bouncer: 3H now|pg|| nt|tmice: the "bad" 4@s had some value... 10 imps... B-6|pg|| mb|2N|an|spade raise|nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for their kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|sommer: tnx Hedy:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: i guess after this we will be showing the final|pg|| nt|bouncer: and 4@S from S|pg|| nt|kalliste: suis un optimiste:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: bid and made|pg|| nt|jbgood: Tøndel sh pass in a flach|pg|| nt|jbgood: flash even|pg|| nt|bouncer: lol,saw that|pg|| nt|tmice: :)|pg|| nt|bouncer: as Trond against 6@H|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Yes, but Jørgen would X....knows partner had the A|pg|| mb|4S!|an|bad hand|nt|sten: ok thanx ... then it's another matter|pg|| nt|mgchat: et tu as bien raison|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph153: z rozpedu sclaimowalem lewe za duzo ale wyniku to nie zmienia|pg|| mb|p|nt|kalliste: il a esperé @s 4 4 et roi@h placé|pg|| mb|p|nt|bouncer: Agree on that.Hope they have that deal in Pau:)|pg|| nt|sten: lol|pg|| nt|bouncer: :)lol|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|Vugraph34: We are very sorry, but lost the connection unfortunately.|pg|| nt|kalliste: comme Malarme a limité sa main (passe d'entrée) pas d'ambiguité sur le contre de 2@h|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|nt|mgchat: c'etait budgeté|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|hedyg: np!|pg|| nt|hedyg: avoid the @H lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: hard to find @D lead and @H return|pg|| nt|garden2005: "od 20 lat jest zerowa"... " na ciosy w³asn¹ piêœci¹"...."brak odpornoœci" - ujawniam privy|pg|| nt|bouncer: brb|pg|| nt|mgchat: entame = pas terrible|pg|| nt|kalliste: le roi@h pour rassurer le part sur sa teneur à l'atout:)|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|garden2005: reszta objêta ochron¹ danych osobowych, nie chcê wyl¹dowaæ w s¹dzie:)|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ahh: depends on the trump suit play |pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|hedyg: singleton trump unusual lead but his 3 kings not appealing|pg|| nt|vugraph153: wynik moznaby poprawic ale skasuje sie ladna licytacja Skrzypczaka, wiec zostawie|pg|| nt|garden2005: id¹ pod topór|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|jbgood: no Cap F|pg|| nt|garden2005: Westra grzecznie tylko wypyta³|pg|| nt|bouncer: 1 off,is it|pg|| pc|sA|nt|aldek: Westra nie jest taki krwiozerczy|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|garden2005: ospale wygl¹da|pg|| nt|ahh: with @C ruff impending not so routine |pg|| pc|d3|nt|dan_hohor: I just wonder why did't gierulsky accept 3NT when a total missfit is obvious |pg|| nt|garden2005: nie ma co wyrzuciæ, wszystko ma niedobre - trudny wybór:)|pg|| pc|d7|nt|garden2005: no ale @h kompletnie bez przysz³oœci|pg|| pc|dK|nt|aldek: 3 NT looked hopeless and 4@S could be a great game with a slightly different hand opposite|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|hedyg: small= positive, 2@H= want @H|pg|| nt|bouncer: no,he need to play 4 rounds of @D|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|ahh: well he had the clues with the opener |pg|| mc|12|nt|hedyg: confirming K@H|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2ST9HKQJ53D7C65432,SQJ875HA64DK98CQ8,S32HT82DQJT652CJT,SAK64H97DA43CAK97|sv|o|nt|mariner1: so interestingly NS played 7 in 2@H on 7 in Open|pg|| nt|rmac: cut the massive lead in half|pg|| nt|mariner1: N has a lot of @d|pg|| nt|rmac: 6n from south unbreakable|pg|| nt|h_karluk: I hope players at this table wld raise their tempo a bit|pg|| nt|chmitty: ca n'est pas le genre : à la 1, avec 7 de tête et pas la minuscule chance d'en faire 8, il a cartonné 1SA jusqu'au bout|pg|| nt|ritong: jai manqué ça:)|pg|| nt|vugraph35: he was afraid of W|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 38:0 this segment|pg|| nt|vugraph35: could have 5cards in @S|pg|| nt|hedyg: last board for now|pg|| nt|rmac: last tx kibs and tx to all the volunteers who make these broadcasts possible|pg|| nt|westjava: maybe miss count of tricks...|pg|| nt|kotstak: Ena akoma exeretiko skor gia B/N|pg|| nt|aupillon: not nice when pard's will ask you " how come ?" at the nearest bar :(|pg|| nt|ladyda: petite erreur technique chez le déclarant mais il n'est pas puni puisque la manche chute|pg|| nt|aupillon: certainement|pg|| nt|aupillon: anyway the game was done -1|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Look at them club pips|pg|| nt|flash: next-to-last board now; re-start at the top of the hour (plus a bit of slippage)|pg|| nt|flash: South goes all in with a straight-flush?|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Is that what we call the tardy restart- slippage - Iike it|pg|| mb|1S|nt|mariner1: and 6@d in S :)|pg|| nt|ritong: nice @d J, yes|pg|| nt|chmitty: ça use les adversaires je dois dire .. mais on s'use aussi du coup|pg|| nt|kotstak: to -2 |pg|| nt|aupillon: 4 spades/4 piques en E/W I think, je crois|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|mariner1: 3@h asking for @h stopper|pg|| nt|mjc12: interrogation sur l'arret @h!|pg|| nt|rmac: dont like 3h which asks for a heart stop|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: the connection is very bad|pg|| nt|h_karluk: likely final contract 5@d for EW|pg|| nt|westjava: now,22 vs 18 hcp|pg|| nt|aupillon: But NICE/joli barrage preemptive in 5 hearts|pg|| nt|aupillon: coeurs|pg|| mb|2H|nt|h_karluk: ohh ..other room result appeared now|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Merle@H great job!|pg|| nt|kalliste: contre ou passe|pg|| mb|p|nt|mjc12: tres bien jouée|pg|| nt|rmac: now 6nt?|pg|| nt|ritong: think 5@h|pg|| nt|kamyk: w otwartym S skontrowa³, a N tê kontrê utrzyma³!|pg|| nt|tomek: Celna kontra Kality w pokoju otwartym|pg|| nt|kalliste: passe:)|pg|| nt|flang: aggressif mais attendu en 3ème|pg|| mb|p|nt|h_karluk: so another flat board|pg|| nt|vugraph35: I think so too...I'm tired and they are so slow!|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Gerben:)|pg|| nt|vugraph35: thank you all!|pg|| mb|2S|nt|sybarra: kibs suggesting 8 of @D at trick one |pg|| nt|mariner1: well a @h lead makes slam too|pg|| nt|aupillon: remark : when your teammates are called Helgemo and co, you can play in confidence|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Gee I hope that is forcing|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: only -1 my bad|pg|| nt|chmitty: l'entame fait jouer quasiment à cartes ouvertes : on connait le roi de @c en Est donc tout le reste en Ouest à une dame près|pg|| nt|ritong: beaucoup de joueurs considerent, et a juste titre a mon avis, qu il est incorrect de ne pas tabler quand il est clair qu il ne peut rien se produire d inattendu|pg|| nt|hedyg: Our appreciation to Deutscher Bridge-Verband (German Bridge Federation) for ensuring that this prestigious event is brought to BBO vugraph. Peter Eidt has been instrumental in ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: setting up a fine show|pg|| nt|Gerben42: West to bid 2@H now|pg|| nt|hedyg: we will be right back with the last segment!|pg|| nt|vugraph35: the final segment will start in a few minutes|pg|| nt|hedyg: so dont go away!|pg|| nt|geot: ok du har rett, men alltid er også et farlig ord:)|pg|| nt|westjava: so far,the score so tied...|pg|| nt|johnnybear: With such defensive values against hearts, South must be disappointed the bidding has stopped so early|pg|| nt|westjava: 4 imp carry over for Jakarta|pg|| mb|3H|nt|sybarra: on last hand |pg|| nt|sybarra: still down 1 if takes sp finesse I see |pg|| nt|rmac: i really like south's 4nt|pg|| nt|mariner1: I did also|pg|| nt|chmitty: mon avis est le même et pour une bonne raison en général : il ne faut pas retarder l'apéro|pg|| nt|aupillon: Enchère DE RENCONTRE, for les spactateurs français = fit et carreaux beaux|pg|| mb|p|nt|mariner1: N wimped out,, probably due to spade worry|pg|| nt|mjc12: now 6 make|pg|| nt|ritong: well, he politely answered his pard s question|pg|| nt|kotstak: kakh epilogh to stayman |pg|| nt|kotstak: kalytera eitan transfer|pg|| nt|vugraph165: east is thinking|pg|| nt|johnnybear: And liliek, how many boards are the teams playing?|pg|| nt|flash: notice that the auction in the Open Room was simplified significantly|pg|| mb|3S|nt|rmac: 5d looks sissy to me|pg|| nt|mjc12: 7|pg|| nt|drdepp: entame dame de trefle serait plus amusante|pg|| nt|ritong: ouais|pg|| nt|aupillon: Comme dit Danielle : NEXT.|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Assmung 3@S is strong here|pg|| nt|flash: it failed to diagnose the perfecta, but...|pg|| nt|phil: multiple squeeze chances here even if clubs arent golden like they are|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Yes practical and to the point|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: this is slow room:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for their kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @S2 lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@H NF, trying to get back 40 imps now?|pg|| nt|vugraph35: some questions about the bidding at the table|pg|| nt|Gerben42: trying to get back IMPs is usually the best way to go more behind...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Q@s is correct on @s lead|pg|| nt|westjava: agressive 4@H from west|pg|| nt|westjava: 1@H,1@Cand...maybe 2@D|pg|| mb|4D|nt|ritong: 3@h meaning " do you have a @h stopper?", 4nt means "yes honey"|pg|| nt|hedyg: i prefer 2NT to the 2@c bid in OR|pg|| nt|hedyg: N will be squeezed on @Hs but so will W|pg|| nt|Gerben42: basically needs @H 3 - 3 or @HJx|pg|| nt|flang: oh la c'est ambitieux comme enchère 4@h|pg|| nt|kalliste: confusion dans les reposnses au drury sans doute|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Well if you get there you will make it|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: seen worse games|pg|| nt|kamyk: mozna siê na tê kontrê krzywiæ - punkty pod siln¹ rêk¹ - ale jak¿e trafna w tym przypadku|pg|| nt|kotstak: otan h dysh paixei thn Q @C|pg|| nt|westjava: 2 x 16 board,John|pg|| nt|ladyda: entame x@h et retour @c mettait le contrat en danger|pg|| nt|phil: never mind|pg|| mb|4H|nt|flang: qui promet 6 cartes dans l'ouverture|pg|| mb|p|nt|h_karluk: a friendly kibitzer from th netherlands guessed 3NT..I congratulate his nice guess..bravo|pg|| nt|hedyg: and they all went off?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: no...|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Spil dog på den realle chance: singleton eller doubleton honnør i plads ... eller KD|pg|| nt|aupillon: there is a possible way to make it depending on the lead|pg|| nt|aupillon: This one allows :)|pg|| nt|dburn: well, if West has made a try, East might just bid a slam|pg|| mb|4S|nt|mcphee: well there will be no problems in the play on this hand|pg|| nt|ybob: cold 9 tricks|pg|| nt|kotstak: O mor telos|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|Gerben42: only those played by my side|pg|| nt|westjava: this is the first half|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: LOL|pg|| nt|flash: welcome to David Burn|pg|| nt|gosia: using up a lot of bidding |pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Looks like we are on the way - lots of shar cards in both hands|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|westjava: draw trump and play @C...|pg|| nt|aupillon: small heart lead and club return was an effective srong defence, as Daniele points out|pg|| mb|5D|nt|chmitty: suis pas très d'accord avec le déclarant sur celle là|pg|| nt|rmac: bid swing here|pg|| mb|p|nt|westjava: try double finess on @D|pg|| nt|vugraph153: tylko tam bez atu bylo slabe a tu jest silne|pg|| nt|johnnybear: does not look like much of interest here, however we will keep an eye out to see whether declarer locates the queen of spades|pg|| nt|flang: donc erreur dans le système (étrange vu leur niveau)|pg|| nt|dburn: if you are going to reach a slam, you should use up a lot of bidding|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: 5@H came out of the box and went back in|pg|| mb|6D|nt|rmac: big|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Markku M. Mäkelä from Finland|pg|| nt|sten: now it's over|pg|| nt|sten: he's home|pg|| nt|mmmakela: hello everybody|pg|| nt|geot: Jevnt i de fleste matchene nå, bare hjemmelaget Stavanger ser ut til å gå mot en stor seier. Mot Sørreisa|pg|| nt|westjava: 3nt -1 in OR.a @H lead...|pg|| mb|6H|nt|mcphee: maybe 10:)|pg|| nt|ybob: ?|pg|| nt|ybob: :)|pg|| nt|ybob: 9|pg|| nt|mcphee: i see no reason not to finesse|pg|| nt|chmitty: ouest est connu avec 4@d et doncla seule chance est une mise en mains finale|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 8 more here, 47 ahead I think we are close to congratulating team Germany...|pg|| nt|hedyg: 8@H wont help N|pg|| nt|h_karluk: bye all|pg|| nt|sten: hi Markku|pg|| nt|aupillon: spade, hoping King of Diamonds with West|pg|| nt|aupillon: no clu, please|pg|| nt|aupillon: club|pg|| nt|aupillon: play the queen of spades to see the effect, pliz|pg|| nt|aupillon: come on Jorgen, please|pg|| nt|vugraph117: He is thinking |pg|| nt|phil: um|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: N/S officially bereft of pass cards|pg|| nt|dburn: but West does appear to be bidding some of his cards twice and the rest three times|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph35: revoke at the table|pg|| nt|h_karluk: by?|pg|| nt|vugraph35: S didn t give a diamond... |pg|| nt|h_karluk: ty|pg|| nt|vugraph35: director at the table|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh my! i wish didnt revoke BBO matches! we cannot show revokes|pg|| nt|vugraph35: this tournament is played with the TBR 2007|pg|| nt|h_karluk: What do we do when someone revokes?|pg|| nt|vugraph35: we've to wait... :(|pg|| nt|hedyg: we sit and wait for the end of the board and the result|pg|| nt|h_karluk: A revoke is corrected until the offender or their partner plays to the next trick. There is no penalty if Dummy revokes, Otherwise, after play is over: |pg|| nt|westjava: @D now...|pg|| nt|aupillon: bon|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Cards down onto table ands on chin|pg|| nt|dburn: he may be placing more value on @cQ than it has - facing five, it would be very good, facing four, not so hot|pg|| nt|flash: (obviously,) bidding a grand would be a tremendous (as in large) swing|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Another one of those hands where bidding a grand slam gets you nothing|pg|| nt|phil: how many grands have we seen bid that would have been a big pickup against a game - only to fail? |pg|| nt|dburn: well, it gets you 11 IMPs less than nothing, and 22 less than bidding six would get you|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: In terms of the OR result the bonus for 7 is pretty small|pg|| nt|flash: if he bids the grand, look for this to appear in a future Bridge World 'You Be the Judge'|pg|| nt|phil: gain an extra 3 IMPs - thats it|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Nope auction too long for the readers to absorb|pg|| nt|flash: :) my favorite response so far is 100% to both of them|pg|| nt|ritong: salomon was a child compared to you:)|pg|| nt|dburn: the thing is that West at some point ought to realise that he has a minimum, even though suitable - if after all West has done East can't bid a grand, surely West can't|pg|| nt|flash: Steve Robinson suggests that 6@H is ummm, ummm, errrr,, unfortuanate, since partner has already denied the @HK|pg|| mb|7S|nt|h_karluk: If the revoke trick was won by the offending player, that trick plus 1 of any subsequent tricks won by the offending side is awarded. If the offending side doesn't win a trick ...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: after the revoke, only the 1 revoke trick is awarded. So it's not automatically 2 tricks. |pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: après avoir fait la dame de @h entre temps|pg|| nt|kamyk: a, to inna rozmowa|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 8@H was operator:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: queen now|pg|| nt|aupillon: and club discard|pg|| mb|p|nt|johnnybear: this might be a stupid question, Liliek, but with the points 20-20, which side was declaring?|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Hi Liliek and all|pg|| nt|westjava: :)|pg|| nt|ritong: |pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Henri is speechless|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| pc|s2|nt|flash: sadness for Welland and Netherlands fans; bit of a celebration in Israel and Poland...|pg|| nt|poohbear: its Yom Ha Atzmaut Israeli independence today |pg|| nt|flash: we're going into the grace period with 1 board left|pg|| nt|flash: and there's no indication of an early surrender here|pg|| nt|poohbear: maybe the QJ10 of @D comes down dbltn?|pg|| nt|flash: a suggestion that had Brink held 1 more @C and 1 less @H, 6@H would have been accurate|pg|| nt|poohbear: only hope|pg|| pc|sA|nt|johnnybear: hi Hamdi|pg|| nt|westjava: hi hamdi,"how are you?":)|pg|| nt|ritong: guess @d QJ10 plus seven @hs makes the job|pg|| pc|s9|nt|chmitty: genre : as de @c @c coupé et @h ... re @c coupé et @h|pg|| nt|h_karluk: hi John |pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|westjava: nice to see you again|pg|| pc|sK|nt|h_karluk: m fine tx :) likewise|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|nt|kalliste: pour certains 5 cartes sans l ouverture, ils vont donc se mettre au point:)|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|nt|chmitty: je crois bien qu'on arrivait légitimement à 10 levées|pg|| nt|aupillon: timing runs out|pg|| pc|h5|nt|sybarra: back to previous bd. with 8 of @D play, as others have shown to me, probably makes the hand with @S finesse |pg|| nt|sybarra: thx specs |pg|| nt|tomek: Bezbledna obrona przeciwnikow|pg|| nt|aupillon: making|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|aupillon: I think he thought about King 9xxx(x) in spades|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|hedyg: didnt cash @H?|pg|| nt|hedyg: we are all getting tired|pg|| nt|hedyg: its been a long day|pg|| nt|ritong: assuming @c roll in|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: ah!|pg|| nt|vugraph35: wrong 9 ;)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: phew|pg|| nt|vugraph35: yes :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: we'll be right back!|pg|| nt|vugraph35: see you soon |pg|| nt|hedyg: ty all|pg|| nt|geot: http://live.bk2000.org/main.aspx |pg|| nt|aupillon: the only source of tricks were spades, in fact|pg|| pc|cT|nt|Gerben42: not 9@H?|pg|| nt|flang: il serait temps lol:)|pg|| nt|phil: well, @h KQJT8 / @d QJT makes South rather busy - if clubs come home for 4 tricks.|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|nt|kotstak: telika den einai kako gia E/W giati bgazoun 3-4@c|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h2|mc|12|nt|aupillon: he is convinced that W hasn't got any more spades|pg|| nt|dburn: I guess West may have had the right to expect a heart control from East - 4@h was last train, but then East bid on anyway and did later bid 6@h|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: They will hate to see six wasnt even bid in the other room|pg|| nt|flash: last board now - 5 minutes left in grace period?|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SK542HKQT2DJ7CQ94,SQJ96HA5D86543CAK,ST873HJ876DAKCJT2,SAH943DQT92C87653|sv|e|nt|hedyg: welcome to Bonn:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: re Martin!|pg|| nt|sybarra: Good afternoon everyone and welcome to Bonn for the 23rd Nations Cup. 20 teams divided into two groups of 10|pg|| nt|Vugraph34: Hello Hedy|pg|| nt|ahh: too quick i think he will have seen it now |pg|| nt|mgchat: bonjour Pierre|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: A complete round-robin of 10 board matches before the finals. This is a match from round 9|pg|| nt|hedyg: last round of the round robin|pg|| mb|p|nt|sten: a great score for Tromsø|pg|| nt|sten: on this board in the OR|pg|| mb|1H|nt|bouncer: yes,but theese guys copi that i think|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Terje thinking a lot, soon getting one more warning :)|pg|| nt|bouncer: He had 1?|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Yes|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Still thinking|pg|| nt|vugraph117: He can be glad JohnP(TD) is not here at the moment :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|vugraph153: beda musieli troche przyspeiszyc bo sa rozdanie do tylu|pg|| nt|sten: well it is almost one hour left of the round and 8 boards|pg|| mb|3H|nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|sybarra: http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/Englisch/Englisch_00_Frame.html is the link to the tournament website, German as well as English|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: Elinescu stole the @D suit|pg|| nt|bouncer: wow:)|pg|| nt|kalliste: le 4333 l'a dissuadé d'un reveil à 3@d|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|bouncer: strange,why not X|pg|| nt|sten: what a 4s bid by Terje here!|pg|| nt|bouncer: y,very good|pg|| nt|sten: max pressure on south|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahh: nobody wants to play this hand better to defend |pg|| pc|cA|nt|hedyg: welcome Povl Sommer|pg|| nt|bouncer: 4 down|pg|| pc|cT|nt|kalliste: je dois vous quiter, aurevoir tous|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c7|nt|sommer: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: cash your tricks and claim|pg|| nt|aldek: nadrobki beda|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|bouncer: maybe a endplay against Molberg|pg|| pc|c6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|h9|nt|vugraphc2: µÚ11¸±ÓÉÓÚ·¢ÅÆ´íÎó£¬ÊÖ¹¤·¢ÅÆ´ò|pg|| nt|liujing: µÚ11¸±Ôõô»ØÊ£¿|pg|| nt|vugraphc2: Ö»¼Ç¼½á¹û|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|jbgood: doomed for one down - but I agree with the suggestion tha N might have bid 3 spades on the diamond fit -- not much to gain thjough - and trumps could be 4-1 against|pg|| mc|6|nt|sten: not now any longer|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SK542HKQT2DJ7CQ94,SQJ96HA5D86543CAK,ST873HJ876DAKCJT2,SAH943DQT92C87653|sv|e|nt|ybob: well JX E QXXX W ?|pg|| nt|vugraphh2: sry played very very fast and claimed|pg|| nt|mcphee: and in serach of a ruff?|pg|| nt|ybob: np K :)|pg|| nt|rmac: and some values, i think|pg|| nt|ritong: not sure|pg|| nt|mjc12: yes|pg|| nt|mjc12: 4@h in EO|pg|| nt|ritong: mind you, the key card was the @d jack|pg|| nt|h_karluk: If the revoke trick was won by the offender's partner, that trick is awarded. Also, if a trick is later won by the offender with a card in the revoke suit, then this trick too is ...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: awarded.|pg|| nt|h_karluk: If the revoke trick was won by the other side, then 1 of any subsequent tricks won by the offending side is awarded. Also, if a trick is later won by the offender with a card in ...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: the revoke suit, then this trick too is awarded. If the offending side doesn't win the revoke trick or any subsequent trick, then no tricks are awarded. No harm no foul.|pg|| nt|h_karluk: Revokes on the 12th trick are merely corrected and there is no penalty applied since the cards are now put back and played out exactly as they should have been. |pg|| nt|hedyg: so here it seems there was 1 trick transferred since NS could take 3 tricks|pg|| nt|h_karluk: rehi all|pg|| nt|mmmakela: hi Sten|pg|| nt|westjava: 24 - 16 hcp now|pg|| nt|flang: tout ceci fait l'affaire des actuels leaders|pg|| nt|kotstak: kalimera|pg|| nt|ladyda: se sont arrêtés à la partielle dans l'autre salle grâce à l'intervention de 1SA (pas OK)|pg|| mb|p|nt|mariner1: 4N also probably indicates some other values|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 6 @C has aplay here|pg|| mb|p|nt|drdepp: 1SA par Ouest serait normal ici|pg|| nt|johnnybear: and as we have seen, the 2@c opening usually shows 6+ clubs, or 5 clubs with a side major suit|pg|| nt|aupillon: If they play 2 spades on this one I offer a general tournée from Juan-Les-Pins|pg|| nt|h_karluk: i think AA wld start with @d|pg|| nt|kotstak: ena endiaferon mats xekinaei|pg|| mb|1H|nt|westjava: re hi,hamdi|pg|| nt|h_karluk: @H|pg|| nt|westjava: and kibitzers...|pg|| nt|westjava: yes,sure|pg|| nt|ladyda: qui a cependant un mérite bien zoné la main|pg|| nt|dburn: so perhaps it wasn't all West's fault|pg|| mb|d|nt|h_karluk: iya :)|pg|| nt|ritong: quelques @cs|pg|| nt|ritong: j en dirais quatre|pg|| nt|chmitty: 4 ??|pg|| nt|chmitty: c'est mon choix aussi|pg|| nt|chmitty: et après le partenaire se débrouille|pg|| nt|ritong: oui|pg|| nt|flash: so, some measure of revenge for Altshuler - they absorbed a 29-1 pasting in the previous round|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: E/W can make 4@D|pg|| nt|flash: again, the conditions of contest allow play-backs, just not in the same session|pg|| mb|2D|an|Good 2! Raise|nt|garden2005: uwaga! zmiany jutrzejszych terminów transmisji: 1) match 6 - 9:30 do 11:45, 2) match7 - 12:00 do 14:15|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmac: i think after starting with 3h, north wasnt sure about the spades|pg|| nt|drdepp: sinon, Ouest aurait pu peut-etre essayer 2T au lieu de 1SA|pg|| nt|flang: un chelem appelé? qui semble promis à la chute....|pg|| nt|kalliste: Seguineau va attaquer les cue bids, faudra s arrêter |pg|| nt|aupillon: pas Ok, excellement dit :)|pg|| nt|ladyda: 2@h doit montrer 5@s et 4@h dans une petite main|pg|| nt|aupillon: 2 hearts is 4 or 5 hearts and 5 spades with a small hand|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|westjava: in the OR,isman (west borneo) is my best friend:)|pg|| nt|aupillon: 99 spectators x 10 Euros, oh, I made a mistake, sorry|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 11 hcp < +4 and 4 = near to rule 20|pg|| nt|flang: ça va être dur je pense quand il a reparlé librement sur 2 @c|pg|| mb|p|nt|frankaus: 2NT here i expect |pg|| nt|h_karluk: how nice :)|pg|| nt|sten: he needs the club Q onside|pg|| nt|geot: ikke all verdens fart i kortene nå. Ser ut til at spillefører må gjette hjerteren her, for å vinne 2S. Med hjerter ut gjør han neppe feil?|pg|| nt|johnnybear: courageous 4@s call - possibly South is hoping North is short in hearts given the bidding|pg|| nt|aupillon: My granda pa told me : on this kind of boards, who play is down. How right he was...|pg|| nt|cindy: S has no good lead |pg|| nt|phil: 2N|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: And only in this the last session|pg|| nt|flash: as David has noted, most pairs at this level have multiple ways to show a raise over an X|pg|| nt|rmac: rt|pg|| mb|2N|an|Minors|nt|rmac: and he does have 11 in hand|pg|| nt|garden2005: 3) match 8 - 14:45 do 16:30 i.. finisz|pg|| nt|tomek: Rozgrywajacy powinien sobie latwo poradzi z wygraniem 2@S|pg|| nt|cindy: thats as good as any doesnt give up a trick|pg|| nt|aupillon: French class lesson : Les carottes sont cuites pour Stavanger = carotts are now overboiled for Stavanger team|pg|| nt|aupillon: :)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: if hearts were splitted 4-4 it was easy try a chance for Ax on any opp..wonder how may declarer proceed|pg|| nt|cindy: he could play S for AQ of @d|pg|| nt|aupillon: you bid spades, I lead spades. If you'd bid clubs, , etc|pg|| nt|cindy: 3@s 2@d 1@c 1@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: seems that Helness took 4@d for a leaping michaels (as i would have too)|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 12 tricks in clubs but not in NT|pg|| nt|sten: Marstrander in west knows about 2-3-4-4 and 15-17 hcp|pg|| nt|geot: Hi all, back again|pg|| nt|mmmakela: needs the heart ruff for 12th|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Marstrander in the tank, looking a bit worried..|pg|| nt|sten: that's right ... 4-2-1-5 tricks|pg|| nt|sten: that I can understand ... west has the aces but not much more|pg|| nt|mmmakela: y|pg|| nt|tomek: Kolory dobrze sie dziela, wiec nie powinno byc problemow|pg|| nt|h_karluk: hard contract , at least for me|pg|| nt|westjava: agressive bid from very,hoping a good@C...|pg|| nt|johnnybear: It did not turn out too badly considering no wastage in diamonds, however on a heart lead, things do not look so good for declarer|pg|| nt|kalliste: 3 as et roi valet à l'atout, mais une main assez plate|pg|| mb|3D|nt|mcphee: my goodness|pg|| nt|mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't, ...|pg|| nt|mariner1: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|mjc12: en 3ème position il est préférable d'ouvrir d'1@s|pg|| nt|mariner1: 4@h vul is a stretch imho|pg|| nt|vugraph35: 40sec left|pg|| nt|flang: certes il a été raisonnable|pg|| nt|flang: si Vinay reparle ...|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ybob: cold game if S have KXX @C XX @H |pg|| nt|ybob: but i never bid 4@S |pg|| nt|mcphee: 2N and 3@S I could live with|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: deux et deux quatre et un cinq|pg|| nt|aupillon: so my granpa was right|pg|| nt|flang: ok 460|pg|| nt|kotstak: mia efkolh dianomh gia xekinhma 140einai to pithanotero|pg|| mb|p|nt|ybob: yes|pg|| nt|hedyg: no way to play 2 boards in 40 secs|pg|| nt|westjava: say in bandung when he was student,medical doctor|pg|| nt|westjava: sacrifice by S|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: 4 strikes me as suicide|pg|| nt|westjava: stay|pg|| nt|kotstak: exeretiko stop|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Same folly at this table|pg|| pc|cK|nt|geot: Think East has shown 2-3-4-4 distribution with his 3H|pg|| nt|mmmakela: now they'll reach it|pg|| nt|sten: tough decision|pg|| nt|kotstak: malon den tha apofygei to mesa o extelwn alla allo 1 allo 2|pg|| nt|h_karluk: and our friend John defined well "co-u-ra-ge-o-us"|pg|| nt|h_karluk: it is also an option to try 3-3 hearts..both red suits 4-3 on EW collections|pg|| nt|dburn: well, you are supposed to bid to the three level if you have nine trumps|pg|| pc|c2|nt|geot: Ville vært betydelig verre om valget hadde kommet idet vest var inne senere i spillet.|pg|| pc|c8|nt|rmac: good lead, seems automatic|pg|| nt|h_karluk: great day today - same time 9 tables live transaction on Vugraph|pg|| nt|sten: I would have expected a pass on 3NT|pg|| nt|vugraph117: A lot of alerting ,but no info to be heard|pg|| nt|mmmakela: close decision imo|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|nt|aupillon: good convention : Le Bridgeur from 2 months ago by Thomas Bessis, our young champion|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|nt|chmitty: EW font 6@s sur l'impasse @h ... l'addition ne va pas leur plaire|pg|| nt|ritong: trois de chute, donc|pg|| nt|tomek: Niestety musze konczyc komentowanie, czesc|pg|| nt|dburn: and if you get a bad result you are allowed to sue Larry Cohen|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|garden2005: dziêkujemy Tomku i zapraszamy|pg|| nt|vugraph153: dziekujemy i zapraszamy ponownie|pg|| pc|s6|nt|h_karluk: In the game of bridge, Leaping Michaels is a conventional overcall made in defense to an opposing 2-level or 3-level preempt|pg|| nt|chmitty: mais quand même plus que leurs homologues de l'autre salle|pg|| nt|h_karluk: time to touch hearts|pg|| nt|aupillon: what is the obligation to say 1NT with East's hand. is him paid to bid ?|pg|| nt|h_karluk: 9 HCP my friend and his p doubled|pg|| nt|aupillon: The par was 2 spades in NS = or 1 down|pg|| nt|h_karluk: on 1st seat|pg|| pc|s3|nt|cindy: i think 1N was auto|pg|| pc|sA|nt|h_karluk: Leaping Michaels is played by many pairs as it provides a means to show strong two-suited hands (5-5 or longer) that are less suitable for a takeout double.|pg|| nt|hedyg: these matches are great practice for Pau for these teams|pg|| nt|westjava: yes...its a national holiday in Indonesia:)|pg|| nt|mmmakela: E has absolute minimum but W has nice controls so heading towards 6 @C seems right|pg|| nt|phil: Larry Cohen is strangely silent right now|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|h_karluk: To do so, Leaping Michaels, utilises the 4¦ and 4¦ bids. Similar to Michaels cuebid, in case this minor suit overcall is in the opposing suit, both major suits are implied. In case ...|pg|| nt|h_karluk: the overcall is not a cuebid, the suit bid plus a major suit is indicated.|pg|| nt|mmmakela: now he's happy he did|pg|| nt|vugraph117: Marstrander comments that anderssens hand was anemic :)|pg|| nt|sten: Tromsø is still picking up imp's|pg|| pc|c6|nt|cindy: describes his hand at a low level|pg|| nt|h_karluk: doubler may held 17+ and then initial pass would not be a good idea|pg|| nt|aupillon: You convinced me|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|h_karluk: :)|pg|| nt|kotstak: me tis pikes omws 3-3|pg|| pc|h5|nt|kotstak: opws exelixthike h amyna|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|westjava: good guess...!|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|h_karluk: nice decision|pg|| nt|flash: did Larry Cohen have much to say about this board in the other room? :)|pg|| pc|s7|nt|h_karluk: *4@c /4@d|pg|| nt|vugraph35: our next match will be Germany I vs-. England|pg|| nt|johnnybear: yes, at first glance it seems courageous was a very nice word to describe it, however the auction does suggest that partner has a singleton or doubleton in hearts, in which case ...|pg|| nt|johnnybear: the all working values might see them through|pg|| nt|johnnybear: so perhaps it is not a terrible bid. However, I think I would have been passing quickly, and imagining -1 in 3@s|pg|| pc|h4|nt|chmitty: je présume une histoire de passe "forcing"|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|mmmakela: claim time|pg|| nt|dburn: mind you, it helps if you do not go around showing five trumps when you only have four|pg|| pc|c5|nt|frankaus: good choice wins 5 imps|pg|| nt|ritong: probablement|pg|| nt|johnnybear: those 5332 hands really do need partner to turn up with quite a bit|pg|| nt|dburn: because Larry's insurance company is covered against that kind of thing|pg|| pc|hT|nt|vugraph35: it ll start in 10minutes|pg|| nt|ritong: et un apéro orageux a venir|pg|| pc|hA|nt|h_karluk: nice spot, 2 way finesse--even drop hope|pg|| nt|kotstak: 200|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|sybarra: coming up on last hand |pg|| nt|ritong: sigh|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|h3|nt|ritong: no 2.2 trumps|pg|| nt|mjc12: well played|pg|| nt|vugraph35: sorry, they are too fast|pg|| nt|hedyg: last 2 matches in the RR|pg|| nt|MolvaM: öpim ben seni|pg|| nt|westjava: -2|pg|| nt|h_karluk: not sure abt this line|pg|| mc|6|nt|hedyg: np Merle:)|pg|| nt|westjava: 300 for north sulawesi (=celebes)|pg|| nt|h_karluk: I think press room gained a good example|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Thanks All back soon|pg|| pg||