vg|Icelandic Cup Final,Segment 4_4,I,1,32,Breki jarđverk,105,Eykt,180| rs|,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,3NW+1,2SE+1,3HE-1,3NS-4,3NS+2,5CN-1,3NE-1,1NE+2,3NN=,3NN=,4SS+1,4SS+1,4SS+1,4SS+1,4HS-1,6NN-4,2SS-1,2SS-1,5DS=,5DS-1,4HS=,4HS+1,6DE-1,6DE-1,3NN-2,3SE-2,3SW+1,2SW+1,2NN=,2SE-1,6SS+1,4SS+2| pn|Júlíus,Jón,Sigurđur,Ţorlákur,Sverrir Ár,Páll Vald,Ađalsteinn,Ragnar Mag|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S7532H7DA8643CA53,ST6HK8654DK75CKT9,SJ9HAQJT32DQ2C862,SAKQ84H9DJT9CQJ74|sv|o|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I have a set game (Cayne) in a few minutes. Have fun everyone!|pg|| nt|royhughes: Bye Roland|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|hedyg: gl Roland!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: thx|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: The raise to 3NT looks slightly aggressive to me, if 2NT was nonforcing|pg|| nt|hedyg: play slowly so we can join you when we finish|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|nt|Walddk2: :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: we are going to play 28 boards, so I think you will make it|pg|| nt|royhughes: The 8 of spades turns out to be big|pg|| nt|athene: nothing the defence can do, with north having no entry|pg|| nt|hedyg: its the 2NT that seems agressive to me|pg|| pc|h7|nt|athene: yes, the spades run (very fortunately) and even if south switches to a small diamond after winning the @CA, declarer has no choice but to rise|pg|| nt|hedyg: N has Q@d|pg|| nt|hedyg: but surely doesnt have A@d|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|athene: even if declarer ducks this trick the defence can't get diamonds going|pg|| nt|hedyg: would not open 2@H with AQJ@H and another ace|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| nt|royhughes: If South plays a low diamond before declarer knows he has 5 spade tricks...?|pg|| pc|d3|nt|hedyg: he still will play K@D|pg|| nt|hedyg: or should|pg|| nt|athene: yes, he might think he needs two diamonds|pg|| nt|hedyg: thats too bad|pg|| nt|royhughes: It looks like a problem to me|pg|| nt|royhughes: It's a funny-looking play, but I wonder if declarer might have tested spades first|pg|| nt|athene: he couldn't really test the spades first, as he might need them as entries, i think|pg|| nt|hedyg: he cannot afford to let N make Q@d|pg|| nt|athene: if south has @DAQ and the spades don't run, he has to duck this|pg|| nt|royhughes: This is a fascinating declarer-play problem|pg|| nt|hedyg: without a clear solution|pg|| nt|athene: he might be considering trying to endplay south|pg|| nt|athene: as a way to recover if he rises the @DK and it was wrong|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|hedyg: enplay for what?|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|hedyg: endplay*|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|royhughes: I think he might have tested spades, falling back on diamond AQ onside. Maybe South has to surrender lead to dummy's diamond jack|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s3|pc|d5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|h5|nt|athene: well done|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|h8|pg|| nt|royhughes: West passed the 2S overcall in the other room|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S7532H7DA8643CA53,ST6HK8654DK75CKT9,SJ9HAQJT32DQ2C862,SAKQ84H9DJT9CQJ74|sv|o|nt|maribelxx: here we go again|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: yes |pg|| nt|onebid: disaster|pg|| nt|april7: missunderstanding|pg|| nt|sharynr: clearly|pg|| nt|onebid: must have been|pg|| nt|baldfriede: Yes, E/W won't be pleased with this.|pg|| nt|bobholl: redouble with my partner and me would have asked they forgot perhaps|pg|| nt|marlowepi: i think it recommends that on the Rune stones|pg|| nt|chick: right Bob, must average over 5 imps per board to catch up |pg|| nt|chick: as a result, we may see some "swinging"|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|aida_mk_nl: back on time :)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|maribelxx: well done Aida|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|hausigel: maybe. I don't think the books are always right on that subject...|pg|| nt|baldjean: books, schmucks :)|pg|| mb|p|pc|h7|nt|hausigel: but sometimes you'll have to explain -1100 to your teammates|pg|| nt|marlowepi: not me. i dont ask about their 1700, they dont bug me about 1100|pg|| nt|athene: if i go for 1100 by opening that west hand 3@H, i know it's just not my day :) i refuse to feel guilty about it|pg|| nt|chick: 2@D presumably shows a heart preempt|pg|| pc|h4|nt|baldjean: -1100 actually was the result of that 7-card multi in the other session :)|pg|| pc|hT|nt|maribelxx: not willing to show his hearts, south|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: and not much left of the 3NT :)|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Martin Garvey|pg|| nt|chick: Hi Martin|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 2diamond just a normal multi|pg|| nt|thegarve: Hi all - apologies if I cannor write those unique Icelandic characters|pg|| nt|chick: Thanks Isak :)|pg|| pc|c8|nt|onebid: I guess 1@D means I have 13 cards|pg|| nt|bobholl: not brave 4@D|pg|| nt|bobholl: pass now by south would be brave|pg|| nt|sharynr: or it means "flushed with success..."|pg|| nt|onebid: 3@S would have gone down 2?|pg|| nt|april7: 3@S X was best for NS,but who could know?|pg|| nt|sharynr: one of the reasons to not open North hand...|pg|| nt|onebid: exactly - after opening that, certainly could not pass it|pg|| nt|athene: any rational line will lead to 9 tricks here|pg|| nt|onebid: this auction will acquaint us with their methods:)|pg|| nt|sybarra: and we may well land in 3 nt here|pg|| nt|bobh1: 6s not bad except on this layout no play|pg|| nt|bobholl: looks like precision and natural respons|pg|| nt|sybarra: or some big club system |pg|| nt|onebid: I can't imagine South settling for 3NT|pg|| nt|sybarra: so many of them now |pg|| nt|bobholl: may be 4nt now|pg|| nt|onebid: difficult choice for South|pg|| nt|bobh1: probably 4n would be ambiguous|pg|| pc|c4|nt|bobholl: but that will be needed as ace ask :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Jusy call North Alli that is his nickname|pg|| nt|baldjean: hello all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: *Just|pg|| pc|cA|nt|athene: just losing three diamonds and a heart|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: after cashing 6@S|pg|| nt|bobholl: second best decision by NS|pg|| pc|c3|nt|onebid: that's why they are champions:)|pg|| nt|chick: Hi Jeanine :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hey Jean|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|bobh1: the problem when you make an ambiguous bid is you have no idea what the response means|pg|| nt|thegarve: and South Mohammed?|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|s6|nt|onebid: played from North, may have gotten club lead|pg|| nt|sybarra: must have been 03 |pg|| nt|onebid: yes, 4@C occurred to me|pg|| nt|Walddk4: hehe|pg|| pc|s9|nt|sybarra: just too unfriendly to make |pg|| nt|bobholl: no luck 33 needed in @D or @S|pg|| nt|bobh1: i usually play that the pd of a 2c opener may not bid blackwood . . . not sure the same applies to a precision 1c opener's pd|pg|| nt|onebid: pretty restrictive|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|maribelxx: 1 of a suit from partner and jumping to 3NT shows 13-15, I agree...but not with a 5-card major in the bag|pg|| pc|sK|nt|aida_mk_nl: 2@S showing @C prefernace|pg|| nt|april7: only champions open N 's hand|pg|| pc|s3|nt|santyclz: 10 tricks with the @cs 3-3 and no entry for the 3rd @d?|pg|| pc|sT|nt|sharynr: i would never have risked a pass of 4@D...but right is right..and cant argue with success well sort of success)|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|bobholl: if they play a 16+ 1@C|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|aida_mk_nl: preferance|pg|| nt|onebid: The other team will face the same breaks, so I don't anticipate a swing|pg|| pc|s5|mc|9|nt|athene: a pitch on the club doesn't help|pg|| nt|thegarve: So we'll expect the Breki team to go for it from the start being 75 IMPs behind|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S862HAJ6DKJ3CJ963,SA94HK982D962CT52,SQT75H7DAQT54CKQ4,SKJ3HQT543D87CA87|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|1N|nt|hedyg: E has maximum 10 HCPs|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: Jon produces the "pressure call" of 3H despite 4333|pg|| pc|s2|nt|hedyg: 3@d was on in NS|pg|| nt|royhughes: so 1 down here is not so bad|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|hedyg: played S for AJx in @H after 1NT bid|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|athene: now hoping for blockage in clubs|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S862HAJ6DKJ3CJ963,SA94HK982D962CT52,SQT75H7DAQT54CKQ4,SKJ3HQT543D87CA87|sv|n|nt|maribelxx: he took a risk - and it exploded in his face....|pg|| nt|maribelxx: i just hope partner is understanding :)|pg|| nt|vugraph815: S said sorry, but his partner was really understanding|pg|| nt|maribelxx: good!!!|pg|| nt|vugraph815: they said its a gift to ladies|pg|| nt|onebid: Right, and he's played with North a fair amount, so...|pg|| nt|sharynr: but in fact it was reasonable to assume he would lose 2@H and 1@S i guess|pg|| nt|hausigel: I would let them play 2@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: if you don't play precision migth be possible to stop (precise :))|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: real gentlmens :)|pg|| nt|hausigel: Give me another and I would balance, but not on that 6-count|pg|| nt|sybarra: mini nt |pg|| nt|bobholl: 10-12 ?|pg|| nt|onebid: I guess that's a WEAK NT|pg|| nt|sybarra: looks like it |pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 1NT = 10-12|pg|| mb|p|nt|maribelxx: i want to play against them!|pg|| nt|hausigel: *another king|pg|| nt|bobholl: this start was not swingy :)|pg|| mb|1D!|nt|aida_mk_nl: lol Lea|pg|| nt|maribelxx: and that this cannot be true|pg|| nt|sharynr: and apologize if his pard had @Hk|pg|| mb|1H|nt|onebid: bad heart position for @H game|pg|| nt|sybarra: MINI, more like the description |pg|| nt|onebid: and such great spots! |pg|| nt|chick: not much to swing with so far|pg|| mb|1N|nt|maribelxx: :)|pg|| nt|marlowepi: i was thinking W might bid, but his hand is really full of holes|pg|| nt|onebid: 2,3,4,5,6,7|pg|| nt|bobholl: pard has got them|pg|| nt|sybarra: 4 of either major |pg|| nt|bobholl: 4 @S save even on @D lead|pg|| mb|2H|nt|aida_mk_nl: okay :)|pg|| nt|maribelxx: ok, we know this is not the bidding, but operator needs to catch up|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: yes |pg|| nt|vugraph815: sorry i messed up the sides|pg|| nt|vugraph815: NS plays 4 spades|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: np you are doing great job :)|pg|| nt|maribelxx: fine|pg|| nt|vugraph815: of course the bidding wasnt like that|pg|| nt|maribelxx: 1NT and a transfer from partner, i guess|pg|| nt|baldjean: they will reach slam here. the question is: where?|pg|| nt|thegarve: a clear t/o double|pg|| nt|bobholl: 2 @H just made is about what they need every board|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|maribelxx: little values but good distribution|pg|| nt|bobholl: will reach 4@H down now i guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: but how makes |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: I have no idea|pg|| nt|maribelxx: and I think it is worth a shot|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: underleading A@C?|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: maybe|pg|| nt|thegarve: and south can bid 2S as he has denied 4S wit the 1NT bid|pg|| mb|3N|nt|hausigel: 6NT?|pg|| nt|marlowepi: the usual place with no fit, i reckon|pg|| nt|hausigel: 33 points, flat hands, no fit|pg|| nt|thegarve: are thes guys playing strong @C?|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: I believe so|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: undo?|pg|| nt|maribelxx: i take note that they are opening with less and less every day|pg|| nt|athene: you actually make 7 - north gets squeezed in the reds|pg|| nt|hausigel: I would lose my faith in relay systems if they end up elsewhere|pg|| nt|onebid: good pass by W - has seen this before:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|april7: unfortunately 1 down|pg|| nt|sybarra: lovely, thx pard he says |pg|| nt|bobholl: does take N seriously|pg|| nt|chick: EW were last session, not sure about NS|pg|| pc|h8|nt|athene: the @D8 is a big card!|pg|| nt|marlowepi: so is the queen|pg|| nt|athene: ah yes sorry i am going mad - just 12 tricks|pg|| nt|hausigel: maybe 7@S :)|pg|| pc|h7|nt|april7: with or without ruff|pg|| nt|onebid: normal result however|pg|| nt|athene: yes, 7@S looks nice|pg|| nt|bobh1: i guess 4d was a splinter . . . seems a little aggressive opp 10-12|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|thegarve: rack up the 100s|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|hausigel: not a good grand, though|pg|| pc|c3|nt|marlowepi: decidedly not|pg|| nt|hausigel: needs @HK onside, no @D overruff and trumps no worse than 4-2|pg|| pc|cT|nt|baldjean: which all happen to work here|pg|| nt|hausigel: I don't think this is going to cause him any bad dreams|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h4|nt|chick: this qualifies as a bit swingy I think|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|cQ|nt|thegarve: dummy squeezed too|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d4|pc|hT|nt|thegarve: all roads lead to 3 off|pg|| mc|5|nt|thegarve: i mean 4 off|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S8HAJTDAK432CT843,SQ963HKQ965DQ96C7,SK5H74DT75CAKQ652,SAJT742H832DJ8CJ9|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|hausigel: 3NT played from North is ok... no slam|pg|| nt|royhughes: EW have a big spade fit|pg|| nt|hausigel: 3NT from South will go down on surprise (@S) lead|pg|| mb|3H|nt|royhughes: 9 tricks for EW in spades|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: tough to find the lead|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|hausigel: I don't like to bid 3NT here...|pg|| nt|hedyg: E might have bid his @ss|pg|| nt|hausigel: partner does not have 5 spades, probably not even 4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| nt|hausigel: South should worry about spades|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c3|nt|athene: he knows east has spades|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|royhughes: South is unblocking his clubs|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s2|pc|c8|nt|athene: but it's going to be hard for west to lead one|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|royhughes: well done, operator!|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s4|pc|c4|nt|hedyg: why should he worry about @s?|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h3|nt|hedyg: his pd asked for a @h stopper, not @s stopper|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h5|pg|| nt|athene: yes, but his partner also didn't double 1@H :)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d8|nt|hausigel: his partner asked for a 1H stopper only because they bid @H|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d5|nt|hedyg: he can still have AKQ@S|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s6|pc|dT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h8|nt|athene: yes he can, but he probably doesn't have|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|hT|pg|| nt|hedyg: i wonder what pass over 3@H meant by E|pg|| nt|hausigel: good point|pg|| nt|hedyg: i play pass= i want, X= i dont want|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S8HAJTDAK432CT843,SQ963HKQ965DQ96C7,SK5H74DT75CAKQ652,SAJT742H832DJ8CJ9|sv|e|nt|bobholl: 4@D ew and 2@H ns ew will gain i think in this partscore battle|pg|| nt|april7: 1@H by NS and 4@D by EW|pg|| nt|bobholl: opposite AKQx xx xxx Kxxx 6 is cold|pg|| nt|bobh1: most in US would play 4d as a balanced slam try . . . def not what W had|pg|| mb|1D!|nt|maribelxx: maybe....4 aces missing, so something must have happened|pg|| nt|maribelxx: at the other table it seems|pg|| nt|athene: might north go for 3nt? with 4333 it's often right|pg|| nt|bobholl: this is even better for ew|pg|| mb|1H|nt|thegarve: which team is winning?|pg|| mb|2C|nt|marlowepi: i like the pass over 1H at these colors, though many would double. the offense-to-defense ratio is mediocre at best|pg|| nt|bobh1: yes, but that's a v specific maximum|pg|| nt|thegarve: is Pall on Breki team?|pg|| mb|2H|nt|bobholl: sry 1@H missed the @C ruff|pg|| nt|april7: ok|pg|| nt|april7: 1NT with 4HP only, they never pass|pg|| nt|onebid: 1NT effectively silencing East|pg|| nt|santyclz: The other room bid 6@d on the first board, so 14 imps for 3@cx'd.|pg|| nt|bobholl: NS from this table is my guess|pg|| nt|chick: NS is Kykt, they are ahead|pg|| nt|chick: Eykt*|pg|| nt|thegarve: so a nice start for the trailers|pg|| mb|3S!|nt|aida_mk_nl: E/W have a game in M|pg|| nt|onebid: I disagree with that. Splinter far more common. Perhaps 5@S - how good are your trumps?|pg|| mb|p|nt|maribelxx: brave actions by south continue|pg|| nt|sybarra: and I am with Judy, I dont mind the splinter |pg|| nt|onebid: but not when pard can have that hand:)|pg|| nt|thegarve: might try for 6@C|pg|| nt|chick: they will need that kind of result every hand :)|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|sharynr: a bit of an overbid here|pg|| nt|onebid: for which EW are grateful:)|pg|| nt|sharynr: i'm sure|pg|| nt|bobholl: but for silencing it works :)|pg|| nt|baldfriede: 8 top tricks for E/W.|pg|| nt|onebid: sure did|pg|| nt|april7: unfortunately nobody can X this |pg|| nt|onebid: what would the panel lead?|pg|| nt|april7: J of @D|pg|| nt|bobholl: 3 of @C for 7 tricks ns|pg|| nt|sharynr: diam J|pg|| nt|bobholl: with my partners 3@H is a spade slam try|pg|| nt|sybarra: but then I dont play 10-12 nt|pg|| nt|chick: 4H?|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|onebid: club for me|pg|| nt|sybarra: are we in slam this time? |pg|| nt|bobh1: yes definitely a slam try opposite 15-17 :)|pg|| nt|onebid: another common treatment|pg|| nt|thegarve: within the constraints of a limited system 3@S is fine!|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|april7: two were right|pg|| nt|onebid: :(|pg|| nt|hausigel: I like this sequence by North|pg|| nt|athene: if 2nt wasn't forcing, 3nt looks pushy - he wouldn't open with much less|pg|| mb|p|nt|maribelxx: despite of that ew found their spot|pg|| nt|marlowepi: after the 2D rebid, N likes the idea of playing 3NT with this shape. he might have bid 2S, though, to commence an auction where both NT & hearts are in view|pg|| nt|hausigel: what would 2@S over 2@D show?|pg|| nt|athene: 2@S sounds like a big diamond raise to me|pg|| nt|athene: but depends on methods|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobh1: slam sort of requires 2/2 finesses|pg|| nt|bobholl: 6 @S down on @C lead ?:)|pg|| nt|onebid: do we know what 1@D was?|pg|| nt|thegarve: one off where 3NT is making|pg|| nt|bobholl: 5 @C down with 3nt cold ?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|bobholl: 0-7 i suppose|pg|| nt|onebid: 0-8 maybe, but with 2 controls?|pg|| nt|onebid: 6@C decent though|pg|| nt|bobh1: it's better than 2/2 finesses if they don't lead a diamond|pg|| nt|onebid: into my AQ?|pg|| pc|hT|nt|sharynr: doesn't a club lead require a bit more from pard though?|pg|| nt|athene: the @S8 lead solves all problems anyway|pg|| nt|hausigel: to me too|pg|| nt|marlowepi: for me, it would be ambigous---thus S can;t go above 3NT on next call|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|aida_mk_nl: now @C?|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|bobh1: was talking about 6s judy|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|nt|onebid: Oh yes, right|pg|| pc|sA|nt|bobh1: 6c is on a spade guess so i agree it's better than 6s|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|onebid: or pitch a spade and ruff out Q|pg|| nt|bobholl: now making with @H finesse|pg|| nt|thegarve: squeeze makes 5@C can he do it?|pg|| nt|thegarve: needs @h switch to break it|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|nt|athene: now he has nine with a diamond|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SKQJHK9764DK62CJ7,S9874H32D943CAQT9,ST652HQ85DJCK8654,SA3HAJTDAQT875C32|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|athene: one or other of E-W will be more to blame, depending on the meaning of east's double of 3@H, yes|pg|| nt|royhughes: East upgrades to a strong club|pg|| mb|1H|nt|hedyg: i think in the end thats what it is all about|pg|| mb|d|mb|2H|nt|athene: east's hand is far too strong for a 13-15 NT, if that's what it was|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|royhughes: Yes, that's what it is, and yes, it's much too strong|pg|| nt|athene: if you treated it as 15-17 NT, it wld be maximum|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: 3N plays well, I think, especially with the spades blocked for NS|pg|| pc|h6|nt|athene: both red tens are very powerful in that east hand|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|royhughes: But declarer has to decide what to do at trick 2|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|hausigel: depends on partner's @D support. opposite a stiff x, it might not be such a huge maximum |pg|| nt|athene: and they both do good work on this layout, as you would expect|pg|| nt|royhughes: A club to the queen looks normal but won't work|pg|| nt|royhughes: a club to the ace might be best|pg|| nt|athene: @DA first perhaps|pg|| nt|hedyg: A@D for me|pg|| nt|athene: not easy - you aren't sure how many tricks to try to get out of diamonds|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes, that may be best. But then what, if you get small cards?|pg|| nt|hedyg: then you go to dummy and play another|pg|| nt|athene: but going to dummy isn't that simple...|pg|| nt|royhughes: Then you are fine when the defense continues hearts|pg|| nt|royhughes: But if they switch to spades you might wish you had won the club finesse|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|hedyg: spec says GIB says Q@D |pg|| pc|d5|nt|hedyg: i say normal players dont play Q@D|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c5|pc|d7|nt|royhughes: Defense can knock out the entry to the 2nd heart trick|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h4|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d8|nt|royhughes: I think declarer may need to exit a club, not a heart|pg|| nt|royhughes: That knocks out N's entry to the long spade|pg|| nt|athene: if declarer had anticipated this problem he might have decided against the @DA cash - but even so, he had an entry in diamonds if they were 2-2|pg|| nt|royhughes: Another fascinating hand|pg|| nt|royhughes: I guess I miscounted the tricks in my last few comments|pg|| nt|athene: @HAJ10 on this hand worth so much more than south's @HAJx in the 3nt - 4 a moment ago|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|nt|royhughes: Nothing works for declarer here|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|hT|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SKQJHK9764DK62CJ7,S9874H32D943CAQT9,ST652HQ85DJCK8654,SA3HAJTDAQT875C32|sv|b|nt|aida_mk_nl: as S did not showed the K@C|pg|| nt|marlowepi: except that there was very little chance of a spade finesse jeopardizing the contract because EW had to make several discards on the hearts|pg|| nt|onebid: action|pg|| nt|sybarra: who wins the race here?|pg|| nt|onebid: EW|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobh1: spades|pg|| mb|p|nt|maribelxx: yes, always easier from here :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: @S always wins|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: michaels|pg|| nt|onebid: certainly true, but EW may go higher and go down|pg|| mb|1N|nt|onebid: and such a good suit Jon|pg|| nt|april7: finally a partscore hand|pg|| nt|chick: how many would open 1N with E hand?|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobh1: they can beat 5h but with 66 tuff to defend|pg|| nt|bobh1: or no they cant|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: we also thought that last time so ?:)|pg|| nt|april7: what does this X mean? I don't want to pass!!!|pg|| mb|p|nt|hausigel: yes, of course|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 3 cl= minors and max|pg|| nt|athene: i don't see any reason to get the diamonds right in 5@D here|pg|| nt|marlowepi: i dont see any reason to pass 1D|pg|| nt|bobholl: this is par !|pg|| nt|onebid: but only has an ace and two jacks. May play pard for @H stack?|pg|| pc|h6|nt|baldjean: Not I.|pg|| nt|bobholl: not many but in 3d hand a good bid|pg|| pc|h2|nt|aida_mk_nl: wow this is interesting :)|pg|| nt|maribelxx: it is...|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: another gift for ladies ? :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: what he has the other 2 and @S tolerance|pg|| nt|sharynr: i think a responsive doubleis just right here|pg|| nt|onebid: responsive|pg|| nt|onebid: E has to double with no spade control, but W has one|pg|| nt|bobh1: on the first board where NS bid 6n, they lost 11|pg|| nt|onebid: really?|pg|| nt|sybarra: other room played a quiet 4 @S |pg|| nt|bobh1: other room stopped in 4s|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|marlowepi: i dont think it helps all that much in 5D if u get the trumps right|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|maribelxx: east surely tried to transfer|pg|| nt|athene: a lot of work to do for sure....maybe just too much|pg|| nt|onebid: NS wins the race|pg|| nt|bobh1: well-judged |pg|| nt|bobholl: practical a of @D ?|pg|| pc|dA|nt|april7: does W know who has the @D?|pg|| nt|onebid: they don't have many defensive tricks|pg|| nt|onebid: 2@S showed a strong heart hand, so W showed very good judgment|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|bobholl: he will make an overtick may be|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|nt|bobholl: trick|pg|| pc|d6|nt|april7: good card!!!|pg|| nt|onebid: for sure could|pg|| pc|d4|nt|aida_mk_nl: @S or @C ?|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|hausigel: good choice by East to stop in 3@D|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|april7: is S really forcing N to bid with his X? its a too weak a hand!! and he not necessarily can stand a 2@S bid|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|april7: duck at least that J of @C|pg|| nt|sharynr: if ace and a club back will make 10 tricks|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|onebid: occasionally overcaller has a suit and/or a hand|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|sharynr: no 9|pg|| nt|hausigel: but score is almost even by now, he won't guess that|pg|| nt|bobh1: will be diappointing to go down|pg|| nt|sybarra: yes |pg|| nt|chick: now making +2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|aida_mk_nl: oh|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: why not ruff/|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: ?|pg|| nt|bobholl: he still hopes to make it :(|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|marlowepi: leading queen of clubs for ruffing hook first time is pretty straightforward. if N covers (he shouldnt), then you have to lead the nine next time for the pin (and N must withhold ...|pg|| nt|marlowepi: the ten). now you can ruff with the king and hook diamonds on the way back. that IS a lot of work|pg|| nt|chick: missing a swing possibility :)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SA852HQ95DJ5CT984,SQJ7HKJ43DK9874C5,SKT6HA72DQ62CAKQJ,S943HT86DAT3C7632|sv|n|nt|hedyg: J@H was known in declarers hand after the lead|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|hedyg: so no way he was going to play another @H|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|athene: declarer has only 8 tricks on a diamond lead here, but west will get very stuck on four rounds of clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|royhughes: You are right -- another interesting hand|pg|| nt|royhughes: The defense may actually do better with the club lead|pg|| nt|athene: yes|pg|| nt|athene: but declarer won't have to cash many clubs before he notices west's pain :)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|royhughes: He may just let go diamonds|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|athene: he pitched two diamonds and a heart on that line of play in the other room|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|athene: declarer ducked a spade, setting up an 8th trick, and west led a diamond, giving the 9th|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|royhughes: declarer was looking at a late finesse against J9xx or Q9xx in E|pg|| nt|vugraphzbt: Jon thinking...|pg|| nt|royhughes: I wonder if a spade back is best|pg|| nt|athene: west has to play ultra-passively to make it hard for declarer|pg|| nt|hedyg: the squeeze will do him in|pg|| nt|athene: but he still gets strip-squeezed in the red suits|pg|| nt|royhughes: I think East is the one who is really squeezed|pg|| nt|royhughes: Declarer's heart 7 may be the 9th trick after a heart pitch from East|pg|| nt|athene: the club lead may make the passive defence easier to find|pg|| nt|royhughes: Not that he has the entries to do it|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|royhughes: If W finds the spade back, we may be in for a fascinating ending|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|royhughes: A spec points out that North has to pitch on the long spade before East|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|h3|pg|| nt|royhughes: I don't see how declarer can make if West throws diamonds|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d8|nt|athene: small diamond from dummy|pg|| nt|athene: east wins, returns heart, say|pg|| nt|athene: you duck, win the @HA, then exit @D|pg|| nt|hausigel: discard @H now, duck a diamond in both hands|pg|| nt|athene: and west has to give u the @HQ|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes, a low diamond looks promising|pg|| pc|h2|nt|royhughes: I carefully said "I don't see how declarer can make it", not "Declarer can't make it"|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|athene: not easy at all for declarer to make this - he basically has to pick the precise layout|pg|| nt|royhughes: I think a diamond to the queen is ok too|pg|| pc|d5|nt|athene: west might have doubled 1@D with @DAKxxx, and returned one with no honour, so the actual layout might be findable|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dA|nt|athene: great play!|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes, bravo|pg|| mc|9|nt|athene: north will be very upset not to gain imps on this board|pg|| nt|hedyg: wd indeed|pg|| nt|royhughes: great play all around|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SA852HQ95DJ5CT984,SQJ7HKJ43DK9874C5,SKT6HA72DQ62CAKQJ,S943HT86DAT3C7632|sv|n|nt|april7: he should have ducked the Q of @S|pg|| nt|bobholl: not should but could|pg|| nt|onebid: double dummy|pg|| nt|marlowepi: quite a stop (in 3D) after the way that auction started|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|maribelxx: from the set loaded it seems 32 altogether|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: 6 x 4 boards?|pg|| nt|athene: the defence gave him a chance to make in the end but he was never going to play to drop the @HA|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: oh|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: so more|pg|| nt|april7: why not? he had already his contract|pg|| nt|onebid: he'll be happy with +380|pg|| nt|hausigel: in most natural systems, 3@C would be an overbid...|pg|| nt|athene: just run the @HK was a sure make|pg|| nt|athene: to make 11 i mean|pg|| mb|1D!|nt|maribelxx: and we have a Finnish pair as ew now @H|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: yes they sound Finnish :)|pg|| nt|hausigel: but since 1@D is limited, 3@C is not gameforcing. good decision by East to stop in a partscore|pg|| mb|1H!|nt|sharynr: 15 imps on the 1100 board! wow. |pg|| nt|bobholl: good pass with S i would have raised and gone down|pg|| mb|p|nt|onebid: I too would raise|pg|| mb|1S!|nt|bobh1: apparently they don't play supp x's|pg|| nt|onebid: good plan|pg|| nt|sybarra: I think I would bid 2 ht with that hand even if I did play them |pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 1s promises 5+ so 2s prom 3|pg|| nt|bobholl: the lucky @c position lets 4@S make|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: but they know their preempts|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|onebid: vul|pg|| nt|athene: spade lead? or club?|pg|| nt|chick: our first comparison gives 7 more imps to Eykt on bd 17|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|marlowepi: much to be said for a diamond lead. that only requires one card in the W hand. a club requires considerably more than that|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: diamond q would assure minus I think|pg|| nt|sybarra: 4 count, 4 @H, and nothing much more to say |pg|| nt|bobh1: maybe he can set up diamonds|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: wow N passed the dbl :)|pg|| nt|maribelxx: after 5th round they are 3rd and NS pair from Latvia are leaders|pg|| nt|bobh1: he's a bit pressed for entries tho so maybe playing the overcaller for Ax of clubs is best|pg|| nt|onebid: while we wait, can anyone explain the OR bidding on the 4@S vs 6NT hand?|pg|| nt|sybarra: j10 flops for declarer|pg|| nt|bobh1: right . . . or Axxx|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: west bid 2h in open room - so perhaps NS undervalue their hand|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|athene: yes this solves the whole club suit for declarer|pg|| nt|thegarve: hi - my PC rebooted for no reason|pg|| mb|3N|nt|marlowepi: spade has same problem. it may not cost a trick (though it probably will), but what do you need from partner to make it a constructive lead? a lot...|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: now they missed the manche :)|pg|| nt|april7: but this time its a legitimid 3@H bid!!!|pg|| nt|onebid: who knew, lol|pg|| nt|bobholl: diagnosed the misfit i think 2@C=@D 2@S transfer also|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|thegarve: a slightly lucky 3nt|pg|| nt|thegarve: on baord 17|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| nt|chick: I believe these are relay bids garnering information after the strong club, but unfortunately, we don't know the details of their agreements|pg|| pc|cK|nt|onebid: just heard from kib - 2@S showed 1-6-3-3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|nt|hausigel: agree @S lead might strike gold (not this time), @D looks best.|pg|| nt|athene: now he can afford to try a heart towards the @HJ i think - the defence can never cash enough hearts to beat him|pg|| nt|marlowepi: obviously a diamond lead has it dangers. but when it is right it is probably the only winning lead, and when it is wrong it is not that likely that a different lead would beat 3NT|pg|| nt|thegarve: normally here 1H = @H or bal so the 1NT rebid shows the range|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|hausigel: @C needs too much to hope for... after all, he can see 11points in his own hand. what does he expect from partner?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|maribelxx: now big problems for declarer|pg|| nt|athene: in this sort of situation, if you have less in hand, the diamond lead is more usual because you are looking for partner's suit and he didn't double 2@C|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|aida_mk_nl: i wouldnt say problems :)|pg|| nt|marlowepi: right roland, that was my point exactly--E must choose his lead in light of the knowledge about how weak W is|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|nt|athene: but here, east knows west really doesn't have much at all|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|baldjean: one can't accuse then of wasting bidding space|pg|| nt|baldjean: them*|pg|| pc|s6|nt|thegarve: 2c was stayman|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|athene: i think he was just hoping the @C lead was safe|pg|| nt|athene: it's rare leading from 10xxx is quite such a spectacular disaster as here|pg|| nt|marlowepi: not being wise after the fact here--i routinely lead diamond king in these situations, and then Jxx hits in dummy instead of Txx..........|pg|| nt|athene: now east has to do some unblocking in diamonds|pg|| nt|santyclz: For me the @dk is the choice because it's unlikely to give up more than 1 trick and any time my opening lead gives up less than 2 tricks is a win.|pg|| nt|athene: but that's not too hard to find|pg|| nt|marlowepi: it think disastrous outcomes from this Txxx lead are considerably more common than "rare"|pg|| nt|baldjean: I think it is declarer who is in a pickle here first|pg|| nt|marlowepi: LOLLLLLLL Joe|pg|| nt|athene: well, in the ending, east has to play his partner for the @DJ anyway :)|pg|| nt|athene: so he cld have done it at trick 1 and saved everyone time|pg|| nt|hausigel: I find the lead problem much more challenging if East's diamonds were something like KJx|pg|| nt|hausigel: then you really have a hard time finding a safe lead|pg|| nt|hausigel: I wouldn't worry that much about finding Jxx in dummy after leading the king from KQx...|pg|| nt|marlowepi: i dont worry about it either. but it happens regardless :)|pg|| nt|hausigel: there are many scenarios when declarer endplays you if you avoid leading diamonds from the start|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: I guess K is a strong lead with unbl ask|pg|| nt|bobholl: up to 8 tricks now but 9 ew have to help|pg|| pc|d8|nt|aida_mk_nl: well done N|pg|| nt|athene: declarer is wondering whether to just lead a heart or try for an endplay|pg|| nt|bobholl: nicely played overtrick now :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|bobholl: there is the help|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|marlowepi: well, king, queen, whichever lead doesnt ask for an unblock then|pg|| nt|baldjean: it was unavoidable for West ti help|pg|| pc|sK|nt|athene: not hard for east to get that right|pg|| nt|hausigel: does it also ask declarer to unblock dummy's jack? :)|pg|| nt|thegarve: this could be the first flat board so far|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|athene: now if east is sadistic he waits a long time|pg|| pc|sT|nt|baldjean: to*|pg|| pc|s9|nt|aida_mk_nl: and now @S|pg|| nt|maribelxx: maybe Nt would have been fine too|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h4|nt|aida_mk_nl: she could have tried dbl finesse|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: run the 9 @C|pg|| nt|athene: so declarer thinks he is down to @HAQ10x|pg|| pc|h2|nt|aida_mk_nl: but this is OK too...|pg|| nt|maribelxx: needs all the overtricks....good|pg|| nt|bobholl: how about @S back|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|marlowepi: only when declarer has AT9 and needs an extra entry to hand|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| mc|9|nt|thegarve: players are optimistic in these positions and merely hope thay have cashing @d tricks|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SAK753HQ74DQCQT73,STHKT3DA87542C965,SJ9842HAJ6D6CAJ42,SQ6H9852DKJT93CK8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: not much point doubling a splinter for the lead - it might be safe but rarely anything more|pg|| pc|h3|nt|athene: and you don't want to suggest a sac at these colours|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|royhughes: That's true -- many pairs assign a different meaning to a double|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|royhughes: Like "lead the lower side suit"|pg|| nt|athene: some people play the double of a splinter asks for some other lead - like the higher of the two "other" suits|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|hedyg: LOL|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|athene: :) well we covered all options between us|pg|| nt|royhughes: I guess Bill and I should try to get it straight if we ever play|pg|| nt|hedyg: you sure did|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SAK753HQ74DQCQT73,STHKT3DA87542C965,SJ9842HAJ6D6CAJ42,SQ6H9852DKJT93CK8|sv|e|nt|april7: in 4 W would have given E the rufrf|pg|| nt|bobholl: vul against not you need 8 tricks |pg|| nt|sharynr: looks like a legitimate 1@H bid, compared to the earlier 1@D bid :)|pg|| nt|april7: true|pg|| nt|marlowepi: do you keep careful sadistics on that holding Bill?|pg|| nt|thegarve: mirror hands lead to less tricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|maribelxx: hm|pg|| nt|onebid: yes|pg|| nt|bobholl: on board 20 ew reached 6@H|pg|| nt|bobholl: but 10 they have|pg|| mb|1S|nt|maribelxx: better @H|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|onebid: too good for 10-12NT?|pg|| nt|thegarve: who will splinter in @d first?|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|athene: west misdefended the ending there i think??|pg|| nt|bobh1: i would make a t/o double with the S hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: didn't see the cards it was too fast|pg|| nt|athene: he had to put the @D9 in|pg|| nt|baldjean: unlucky that hands are mirrored here|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: no one will splinter - relay started|pg|| mb|2H|nt|maribelxx: but i would be tempted to bid 4 with north cards|pg|| nt|athene: now declarer can't duck|pg|| nt|onebid: as most would, Bob|pg|| nt|bobholl: vulnerable no 10-12 i suppose|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 2h= 5-3 in maj |pg|| mb|p|nt|marlowepi: all the scoring has been one-sided so far in this set|pg|| mb|2S|nt|aida_mk_nl: unlucky contract |pg|| nt|athene: and if he wins the @DA first time, east unblocks the @DK or @DQ|pg|| mb|p|nt|maribelxx: and 4 losers :(|pg|| nt|athene: so the precious @DJ comes into its own|pg|| nt|athene: so indeed, if east just led a diamond at trick 1, he just needed his pd to have the @DJ|pg|| nt|athene: as it went, he needed him to have @DJ9|pg|| nt|athene: which he had - but he didn't make use of them|pg|| nt|bobh1: this should be music to S's ears|pg|| nt|bobholl: but @D K wrong |pg|| mb|3D|nt|april7: but 4@H will again most probably go down|pg|| nt|baldjean: but 10 safe tricks|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 1-4 in min|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: with @C ruff 2 down|pg|| nt|bobh1: if u could see both hands u would not want to be in slam on this auction|pg|| mb|4S|nt|bobholl: quite normal result|pg|| mb|p|nt|marlowepi: not a great lead as cards lie. W should quickjly insert the 8|pg|| nt|thegarve: the charge has started 21 imps back on the last two boards and more to come|pg|| mb|p|nt|maribelxx: only hindrance could be the good spades....a suit opponents might be landing on|pg|| nt|april7: there is an endplay possible, that opponents lead @S suit first|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: oh well |pg|| nt|onebid: 12 opp 9 I rarely do|pg|| nt|bobh1: requires K of diamonds not to be in the opener's hand plus also getting spades right|pg|| nt|sga1: if S has 5 hearts, then 6 is ok|pg|| nt|onebid: and nothing wasted outside as well|pg|| nt|bobholl: i 've been in slams that are worse but in better ones too|pg|| nt|sybarra: havent we all |pg|| nt|onebid: Roland has|pg|| nt|onebid: what to lead?|pg|| nt|bobh1: club|pg|| nt|chick: systems that show the distribution so clearly are great for getting to the right contract, but also make the defense much easier. |pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 4s=mininum GF|pg|| pc|dA|nt|onebid: this is a tough hand to lead from. I fall back on clubs against slams when in doubt|pg|| nt|bobh1: they r prob ready for a diamond since u opened that suit|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|april7: even if E doesn't guess the @H Q|pg|| nt|bobholl: why don't you have 5@H pard so i can get rid of my @D|pg|| nt|bobh1: on this deal a diamond lead would not work well at all|pg|| pc|c5|nt|bobholl: pall has a difficult lead now but no difference|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|maribelxx: but maybe they won't|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: now @C|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Walddk4: After this set there will be a break for lunch. Restart at 15:15 local time, in 1 hour and 15 minutes from now|pg|| pc|s6|nt|onebid: while it's true that there are scenarios where slam will make, in the long run, when the opponents have half the deck, forget it|pg|| nt|chick: only a heart lead would have given away a trick|pg|| pc|sA|nt|aida_mk_nl: oh|pg|| nt|bobholl: endplay gone now for sure|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Iceland one of the few nations always on GMT|pg|| nt|sharynr: pretty double dummy, yes but can strip norths minors and throw him in with a trump|pg|| nt|april7: he sould have ducked the first @C so he would have an endplay now|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|nt|aida_mk_nl: claim|pg|| nt|maribelxx: east showed his length in clubs... and tried with 2 fo @D|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SAJT82H86DT4CAKT9,S9643H53DK8652CJ6,SK75HAQJ9DAQ93C87,SQHKT742DJ7CQ5432|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|invit or better|nt|hausigel: 6@S here?|pg|| mb|p|nt|royhughes: 6@s looks very complicated to me -- slightly odds-against, I would guess|pg|| nt|hausigel: needs two of three finesse|pg|| nt|athene: bidding slam on these cards would be very hungry|pg|| mb|3C!|an|minimum|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|hausigel: and some not-too-bad breaks|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c9|nt|athene: south will cross-ruff minors|pg|| nt|hausigel: In 6@S, you try to ruff one club and discard another on @H. this is between 40% ad 50%, I would estimate|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cT|mc|11|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SAJT82H86DT4CAKT9,S9643H53DK8652CJ6,SK75HAQJ9DAQ93C87,SQHKT742DJ7CQ5432|sv|b|nt|maribelxx: using udca as we do here :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: this is interesting board|pg|| nt|vugraph815: now its 23 b|pg|| nt|marlowepi: he went out of his way to give up trump control even though he was under no pressure at all|pg|| nt|hausigel: only 8 IMPs difference by now...|pg|| nt|athene: yes playing spades differently was an option but he saw a sure 8 tricks i suppose even against a bad break|pg|| nt|bobholl: but a 1 trick swing is no swing in this match|pg|| nt|baldjean: +1?|pg|| nt|baldjean: how did that happen?|pg|| mb|1S|nt|sybarra: dealer have quite a fun day!|pg|| mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: yes great! ty Brian :) great job even after sooo many boards :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: i don't want to predict another partscore|pg|| nt|hausigel: in open room, NS did not bid game in board 19|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|bobholl: how many deals with at least 65 did we have ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|maribelxx: many might open with 1NT in the previous....|pg|| nt|baldjean: it has become a close match again|pg|| nt|bobholl: wrong claim i guess|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|aida_mk_nl: and we are back to the "interseting board"|pg|| nt|maribelxx: :)|pg|| nt|maribelxx: and the bidding is interesting so far|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: and welcome to Per Olof Sundelin from Sweden :)|pg|| nt|maribelxx: from here i hope Toivonen trusts his partner to have some strength|pg|| nt|athene: if you are going to have 7-round auctions you should avoid spades as bad as this one, i think|pg|| nt|marlowepi: spade to king and back can only gain and never lose. his play could only lose and never gain|pg|| nt|chick: another game force relay bid|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 5-2 in majors|pg|| mb|p|nt|onebid: E may like hearing the next bid|pg|| nt|bobh1: 5d might be a decent save even with the bad break|pg|| nt|bobholl: i think except for the @C opener everything nat so east will pass after 2@S|pg|| mb|2N|nt|aida_mk_nl: hi PO we are lucky to have you here :)|pg|| nt|onebid: but a speedy conclusion|pg|| nt|santyclz: 35 unanswered imps...|pg|| mb|p|nt|sharynr: is this forcing and if not, where are the south extras?|pg|| nt|bobholl: with k of @D bare without a @H lead 9 tricks|pg|| nt|athene: avoid slams sorry|pg|| nt|marlowepi: we are 3 comparisons behind, but they are not harmful to NS|pg|| nt|thegarve: they should reach 6@S here|pg|| mb|3D|nt|sharynr: i am guess 2NT=f|pg|| nt|onebid: wow|pg|| nt|onebid: yes Sharyn, I think so too|pg|| nt|bobholl: Q or 8 ? :) :(|pg|| nt|sharynr: should he not play Q here|pg|| nt|onebid: can he duck?|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 2-4 in minors|pg|| mb|p|nt|sharynr: cant stand a heart shift, needs 9 quick|pg|| nt|hausigel: on the contrary. in board 21, 3NT might go down in OR|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|onebid: what???|pg|| nt|sybarra: this could get messy|pg|| nt|bobholl: may be 3@D gets doubled now ?:)|pg|| nt|onebid: no, he wants to play 2NT?|pg|| nt|bobh1: with 7-4 i think W's pass is very timid|pg|| nt|onebid: agree, but North's pass is incomprehensible|pg|| nt|bobholl: partner denied 3 points i guess (F and second pass)|pg|| nt|onebid: East may bid 3@H|pg|| nt|bobh1: the result in 2n will beat par|pg|| mb|p|nt|maribelxx: hi Peo, I am your chauffeur from 1989, lol :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: lol|pg|| nt|maribelxx: when you coached the Finnish open team|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: switch that might hurt a LOT , will she play Q@C?|pg|| nt|vugraph815: she is still thinking|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: only chance|pg|| nt|vugraph815: http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments/results/rig08/rig08invr.htm|pg|| nt|sharynr: cant affor it|pg|| nt|sharynr: afford*|pg|| nt|bobholl: or double and then 3@D also |pg|| nt|sybarra: or none of the above|pg|| mb|4C!|nt|onebid: well, I see 4 tricks|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 5 kontrols|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: I think ??|pg|| nt|thegarve: good vugraph typist can keep up with the alerts|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: or 12-15 hand ??|pg|| nt|chick: Thanks for whatever info you can give us, Isak! :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|marlowepi: it would not be impossible for EW to let slam make|pg|| nt|bobholl: the @S JT decides wheater it is a good slam can they ask for that ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: it looks from the early auction as though the two N-S pairs are playing similar methods|pg|| nt|marlowepi: right, roland|pg|| nt|baldjean: but N/S did well to avoid it, and we will have a new leader now|pg|| nt|bobh1: he will have to give dummy a diamond also|pg|| mb|p|nt|hausigel: that would be a great story for NS. how far were they behind at the beginning of this session?|pg|| nt|marlowepi: this will be over in 8 seconds|pg|| mb|p|nt|onebid: the right play after they lead opener's suit|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: controls he says|pg|| nt|thegarve: often players play 4@D as an end signal here with 4S as either constructive or RKB@s|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: Yes on eigth level!|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|athene: win diamond switch, spade up, claim|pg|| nt|chick: well, they missed the slam but it wasn't a good one, so another chance for a swing if the Breki pair at the other table go for it|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|nt|thegarve: with the shape known for declarer, you can false signal merrily|pg|| pc|c6|nt|santyclz: +660, next.|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|bobholl: w has to guess on the next @C|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|maribelxx: spade trick for the defence vanished|pg|| nt|sharynr: east did well to not lead the @DJ though, it could have mattered|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|thegarve: hmm maybe 4@s is best after this play|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|aida_mk_nl: so far so good for Romanovska and Klidzeja, everything they played dbld so far they have made it:)|pg|| nt|maribelxx: but might be switched to a trump trick, let's see|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|onebid: This EW pair has been discliplined throughout and is piling up the imps|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| pc|c8|nt|bobh1: will W get squeezed?|pg|| nt|onebid: NS has been a bit unlucky, but too aggressive I think|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|nt|aida_mk_nl: just made, unlucky board for e/w|pg|| pc|d2|nt|aida_mk_nl: 4 more boards left for today|pg|| nt|maribelxx: yes very....there was the undertrick to be taken, pity :8|pg|| nt|maribelxx: our NS ladies were leading the event and might well continue to do so|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: ok (unlucky) = not found the right defence|pg|| nt|maribelxx: true|pg|| nt|maribelxx: in an imp-competition a doubled home game will bring a lot of plus|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: now the popular brak |pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: e|pg|| nt|maribelxx: fancy to read? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riga|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: ty Lea :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: and now last round (4 boards left)|pg|| nt|maribelxx: and for the venue area http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%ABrmala|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: will start shortly as pairs need to find their places, and many are smoking outside :)|pg|| nt|vugraph815: Now its gona be a fight betwen two leaders|pg|| nt|vugraph815: Final round|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: PO suggested that there should be a penalty equal to one down for break-taking smokers|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: :)|pg|| nt|maribelxx: will we see Koistinen - Niemi?|pg|| nt|vugraph815: No, 2 Latvian pairs|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: so juniors :) against ladies GREAT!!!|pg|| nt|maribelxx: ok, np :) (just hoping )|pg|| nt|chick: another 6 imps for Breki on bd 20 when Eykt bid 3N and went down 1|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d9|nt|chick: that's a 20 imp gain in 4 compared hands ... about the level they need to catch up|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|mc|11|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SA75HAK7532DA63C4,ST64H986DKQJ72CA5,SKQJ8HJDT94CKQJT3,S932HQT4D85C98762|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|athene: hmmmm a somewhat surreal auction in the other room|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|royhughes: indeed|pg|| nt|hedyg: 6NT -4|pg|| mb|3D|an|4th...|mb|d|nt|athene: if you play 6NT -4 you hope it's just 2 imp loss against 3n in the other room :) but you aren't optimistic|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|hausigel: this is one of the drawbacks when you play the second dbl after 1NT opening as takeout|pg|| nt|royhughes: 4@s may be the best contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|athene: not much fun on a diamond lead though|pg|| pc|d4|nt|athene: you have to pitch a diamond from hand on the @HK and then take the force|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|s9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|athene: i guess it just needs 3-3 spades - not that much to ask|pg|| mc|9|nt|royhughes: I'm not sure it needs that -- might you not have a sort of crossruff?|pg|| nt|hedyg: will be surprised to make imps on this|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SA75HAK7532DA63C4,ST64H986DKQJ72CA5,SKQJ8HJDT94CKQJT3,S932HQT4D85C98762|sv|o|nt|sharynr: they must have pitched very acurately|pg|| nt|onebid: last board|pg|| nt|marlowepi: it is a very instructive declarer-play hand if S is in slam--which cards to play in which sequence to give best chance of hoodwinking EW|pg|| nt|santyclz: This is the last board of the match. Thanks to the Icelandic Bridge Federation for allowing this broadcast; BBO for providing the platform; my fellow commentators:|pg|| nt|bobh1: i think he could have made another trick|pg|| nt|thegarve: he should have a way to set the @s suit and ask for help, say 3@S|pg|| mb|1N|nt|maribelxx: a quick one |pg|| nt|bobholl: nice stop in the other room|pg|| mb|d|nt|aida_mk_nl: what happened to board 23?|pg|| nt|vugraph815: wasnt the right one|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: ok|pg|| nt|maribelxx: ok|pg|| nt|april7: partscore in @H only|pg|| nt|thegarve: X = 4M + 5m, getting common these days|pg|| mb|r!|nt|santyclz: Jeanine Greifswald-Tolleson (Germany), Bill Frisby (England), Marchall Lewis (USA), and Roland Voit (Germany); Roland Wald and all those who organized the broadcast; and especially ...|pg|| nt|santyclz: our vg oper Isak. Thank you for your interest and keeping us in line.|pg|| nt|athene: yes, you have to decide whether to try sneaking a heart through to the @HQ or play for a legitimate but wildly unlikely red-suit squeeze - it depends how the early play goes i ...|pg|| nt|athene: guess|pg|| nt|onebid: another distributional hand|pg|| nt|bobholl: S has to be cowardly |pg|| nt|bobh1: i think 4h can make|pg|| nt|thegarve: unless it is penalties??|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|sharynr: should east bid that suit?|pg|| nt|thegarve: XX = either minor the way I play with system on|pg|| nt|bobholl: transfer to 5crd of N :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|maribelxx: this is a bit... eh, awkward|pg|| nt|onebid: while West has 11 points, it is a much better Fantan hand|pg|| nt|bobh1: on three rounds of spades, N can set up diamonds|pg|| nt|chick: 12 aceless points isn't likely to be penalty|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|sharynr: :)|pg|| nt|bobh1: the defense has a choice of k/o ing the club entry or tapping the dummy|pg|| nt|bobh1: but they can't do both|pg|| nt|thegarve: t/o X no cost|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|hausigel: yes, thank you all. many thanks to our operator Ísak.|pg|| nt|onebid: W will see a trump trick if he taps summy|pg|| nt|onebid: dummy|pg|| nt|baldjean: x would actually have been interesting here. North could let it stand|pg|| nt|thegarve: would have been 5 off in 2C doubled|pg|| nt|thegarve: seems N/S like bidding suits rather than t/o doubles|pg|| mb|6H|nt|april7: beeing so far ahead he might restrain from bidding,good decision|pg|| nt|onebid: by whom?|pg|| nt|hausigel: enjoyed this very much - hope to see you again tomorrow|pg|| nt|thegarve: what!|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: has to get @H rigth but will do if they play @C|pg|| nt|onebid: I think they'll make it|pg|| nt|baldjean: this looks like a severe misunderstanding|pg|| nt|thegarve: man the lifeboats|pg|| nt|bobholl: makes the match more exciting ! :)|pg|| nt|thegarve: maybe double was penalties after all|pg|| nt|baldjean: to quote a song from my favorite rock band: "they're going overboard on this one - abandon ship!"|pg|| mb|6N|mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: yes specially when u bid 2nt in competition , and planning to bid 3@D after and then being passed :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: and n didn't do that ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobh1: on the previous board, EW got to 4h and made it to pick up 8|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: depends if he takes a spade trick next I think|pg|| nt|bobholl: @C lead and @H not covered ?? :)|pg|| nt|thegarve: we have a bunch of Breki fans now - we all like an underdog|pg|| nt|chick: hope springs eternal :)|pg|| pc|d8|nt|chick: cheering for the underdog is always more fun than for the far-ahead leader :)|pg|| nt|baldjean: the deadly lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: good lead!|pg|| nt|thegarve: I would smack this if i was so far behind if down well down|pg|| pc|d3|nt|sharynr: up to 6 tricks now|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|athene: if you are going to make 8 tricks in spades, it's better to do it in defence :)|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|Walddk5: He surely overtook|pg|| nt|bobholl: they got more than expected because of the 6@C on 14 reached in other room @C (31)|pg|| nt|thegarve: so must have been 4M + 5m and Ragnar knew which minor|pg|| nt|thegarve: big difference between 800 and 200, lets see if Sverrir is still on tilt in the next few boards|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|maribelxx: often dangereous bidding 2NT|pg|| pc|d9|nt|Walddk5: Noooooooo|pg|| nt|hausigel: oh dear. in the open room, EW bid the bad 5@D in board 20. this could be fatal for the final result|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|nt|aida_mk_nl: well done to pass for E/W |pg|| nt|april7: thank you all and bye till next time|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SJ7652HJ4DJ75CJ53,S94HT96DT43CQT974,SKQT8HK7DKQ82CA62,SA3HAQ8532DA96CK8|sv|e|nt|royhughes: if 2 rounds of clubs were to live, i mean|pg|| nt|athene: yes, maybe|pg|| nt|athene: but you have to decide what to play for|pg|| nt|royhughes: Ok, I'm on to the next one|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|royhughes: Really, there have been too many difficult hands in this set!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: some people play that with a good hand, after opps open 1@C strong, you must pass|pg|| mb|d|nt|athene: and bid later|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|athene: but clearly East doesn't believe in this :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|royhughes: Klinger is an advocate of that approach|pg|| mb|p|nt|royhughes: I like to get in with my shape and see if partner can raise|pg|| mb|2H|nt|hedyg: they play crash except 1M= natural|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|athene: not much competition here for a hand where both sides have a nine-card fit|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|nt|hedyg: no @H lead|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|nt|athene: declarer was making if he ducked the @CK?|pg|| nt|hedyg: good defence by Thorlakur|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SJ7652HJ4DJ75CJ53,S94HT96DT43CQT974,SKQT8HK7DKQ82CA62,SA3HAQ8532DA96CK8|sv|e|nt|aida_mk_nl: ok here we go :)|pg|| nt|vugraph815: Actually Romanovska once was teacher of 2 juniors|pg|| nt|sybarra: doubt that we set land speed records at this table|pg|| nt|thegarve: swapped +1100 for -200|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|sybarra: yikes|pg|| nt|bobholl: positions were not easy|pg|| nt|sybarra: not my 2 @D type bid but hey|pg|| mb|1H|nt|onebid: has he ever passed?|pg|| nt|thegarve: thin 4@h and he can be blocked from duummy with careful play in 4H|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: may need to check, but not that I remember |pg|| nt|bobh1: white against red . . . first seat . . . stiff spade . . . i understand it|pg|| nt|onebid: Oh and 4 hearts too|pg|| nt|baldjean: let's see where Breki will land at board 24|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|maribelxx: standings http://www.bridgemoscow.ru/tournaments/results/rig08/rig08invr.htm|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobh1: stiff spade is more significant to me than 4th heart|pg|| mb|p|nt|thegarve: pussy cats|pg|| pc|hT|nt|onebid: give South the KQ@H and he would be less than amused|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|nt|bobh1: also gets pd off to a good lead|pg|| nt|onebid: OK, lets play for $|pg|| nt|bobh1: he has to shift to club to complete his good work|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|bobholl: unlucky 4@S k@C could be rigth|pg|| nt|onebid: Odd that all this good bidding has produced so few imps|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|bobholl: 4 @S -1 not much will change that|pg|| nt|bobholl: @C k back will create down possibility|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|c5|pg|| mc|7|nt|maribelxx: this is the last round of the competition, 4 boards|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: -1 |pg|| nt|maribelxx: the imps shown on bbo are not to be taken seriously|pg|| nt|chick: this contract was makeable, so most likely more imps to EW|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S8HQ6DKQJT97432C7,SAJ743HKD5CQ98643,SKQ52HT9832DA6CAJ,ST96HAJ754D8CKT52|sv|b|nt|hedyg: yes he was|pg|| nt|athene: a loser goes on the long diamond|pg|| nt|hausigel: oh dear.|pg|| nt|athene: ducking works just as well if east has @CKQ|pg|| nt|athene: and necessary if he has @CKx|pg|| nt|royhughes: Someone count the diamonds for me|pg|| nt|hausigel: did you say something about a long @D? :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: but probably thought E had KQ@c|pg|| nt|hausigel: NINE|pg|| nt|royhughes: ty|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|hedyg: count the other cards Roy:)|pg|| nt|royhughes: Oh, that's a good way|pg|| nt|royhughes: Only works if you have 13 cards, though|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: unbeatable 3NT|pg|| nt|hausigel: the bad news is that 5@D goes down, while 3NT makes|pg|| pc|sA|nt|hedyg: but cant hold it against a guy to open this hand 5@d|pg|| nt|hausigel: well, may go down|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|hausigel: needs @HK captured by @HA and @H ruff|pg|| nt|hedyg: pd never has the right cards|pg|| nt|royhughes: Playing heart king now shows singleton -- must lead low with Kx|pg|| nt|hedyg: playing k@H now means, i saw dummy, we might need to take 2 @H tricks|pg|| nt|royhughes: singleton or KQ, that is|pg|| nt|hedyg: if it is either A@H and small @H is correct|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| nt|hausigel: would be even right if West had @HKx|pg|| nt|royhughes: I think Kelsey's "Killing Defense" had this theme in one of the deals|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d6|nt|hedyg: A@H couldnt be wrong|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S8HQ6DKQJT97432C7,SAJ743HKD5CQ98643,SKQ52HT9832DA6CAJ,ST96HAJ754D8CKT52|sv|b|nt|onebid: will he open 2@D?|pg|| nt|bobh1: red red i doubt it|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobh1: also his diamonds are worse and his hearts better|pg|| nt|onebid: stiff spade - needs lead - hmmm|pg|| mb|5D|nt|aida_mk_nl: 1nt by south i guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: W finding that bid amusing|pg|| nt|bobholl: but to little still 55 behind|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobholl: 1 nt ?|pg|| nt|chick: 3N on any defense, I think 5@D is too unilateral with an unpassed partner|pg|| pc|sA|nt|onebid: always hard to decide with passed partner - bid or go for defending|pg|| pc|s2|nt|sybarra: aha |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| nt|sybarra: not sure I expected S to be playing 1 nt |pg|| nt|onebid: Nor I Shirley|pg|| pc|hK|nt|bobh1: i wonder if he sensed a spade stack on his left?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|bobholl: should overtake |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|thegarve: yes be careful|pg|| pc|h4|nt|bobholl: thats what i thougth too|pg|| nt|onebid: far more sensible, and I like his choice|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|maribelxx: in my the results i have our NS have +73 and EW have +32, the third Gromov-Sazonov +30, Koistinen-Niemi +24|pg|| nt|sybarra: now we know, we missed a pass|pg|| pc|d5|nt|aida_mk_nl: ty Lea for bringing us the results @H|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|nt|sybarra: does anyone know what a XX contract - 8 is? both vul and non vul |pg|| nt|sybarra: I was just asked |pg|| nt|sybarra: higher calculus than I have |pg|| nt|onebid: lol|pg|| nt|bobh1: i know what it is vul --- 2 tons -- - i got that once in a b-a-m|pg|| nt|bobholl: just double the doubled scores|pg|| nt|sybarra: 2000?|pg|| nt|bobh1: we won the board|pg|| nt|sybarra: 4000 |pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SJ983HAKQJ5D8CT64,SKQ764H43DA542CQJ,S5H872DKT97CAK532,SAT2HT96DQJ63C987|sv|o|mb|1H|nt|hausigel: Breki team are really doing well...|pg|| mb|1S|mb|4H|nt|hausigel: 3 more of this, and score is even|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: Like my Toronto Blue Jays -- doing really well but not quite enough.|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|hausigel: unfortunately, its very hard to picture the next two boards deliver any IMPs for Breki|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|royhughes: You're cheating!|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Open one browser window per table|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| nt|hedyg: needs to play @H|pg|| pc|h4|nt|hedyg: to keep it to =|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|h8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|s9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|nt|royhughes: right|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SJ983HAKQJ5D8CT64,SKQ764H43DA542CQJ,S5H872DKT97CAK532,SAT2HT96DQJ63C987|sv|o|nt|onebid: thanks Isak|pg|| nt|onebid: Our operator has been terrific and we thank him|pg|| mb|1H|nt|aida_mk_nl: and as my friend PO says is very lucky return :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: only right when this exact layout is there - small heart is superior|pg|| nt|sybarra: yes certainly has been great!|pg|| nt|onebid: no 4-3-3-3 hand in this set|pg|| nt|thegarve: a possible 4@h|pg|| mb|1S|nt|bobh1: another battle of the majors|pg|| nt|chick: 2@S?|pg|| nt|thegarve: handy club position|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|sybarra: looks like a muiderberg type hand |pg|| nt|sybarra: (or tartan)|pg|| nt|bobholl: polish can reach 7 now ?|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: tartan|pg|| nt|bobholl: 6 |pg|| nt|onebid: blast it or bid around?|pg|| mb|d!|nt|aida_mk_nl: 1@D is relay or natural after x?|pg|| nt|maribelxx: i think it should be negative with that north hand :)|pg|| nt|thegarve: pass best encouraging|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|sybarra: may just bid it, not wanting to give opps opportunity to bid @H's|pg|| nt|onebid: or find the best lead|pg|| nt|bobholl: 3 nt @S support ?|pg|| nt|sybarra: 3 nt must be something special |pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 3h=minimum|pg|| nt|thegarve: not a good call|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|onebid: maybe asking second suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: could do that with 2 nt also, but may be a better hand at 3 nt |pg|| mb|p|pc|sK|nt|maribelxx: or just show diamonds, as correctly PO pointed out|pg|| nt|onebid: yes, probably game forcing|pg|| nt|sybarra: last train cue|pg|| nt|sybarra: I.e. no cue|pg|| nt|onebid: or maybe ace asking|pg|| nt|chick: well, he is minimum, doesn't know the QJ@C coming down :)|pg|| pc|s5|nt|maribelxx: however, i find strange that jump to 2@H provided that the response was negative|pg|| nt|thegarve: 5431 best shape in bridge|pg|| pc|sT|nt|maribelxx: maybe a rdbl would be positive hand, sorry for my ignorance about their system|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: I wonder why South couldn´t bid 1@H as it probably showed artificially 16+|pg|| nt|chick: I like 6511 best myself :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: 65 come alive is best !:)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|bobholl: does he know now of the KQJ in stead of ace ?|pg|| nt|onebid: I'm guessing KC and one KC response|pg|| pc|dK|nt|maribelxx: he has shown 16+ with the opening already|pg|| pc|d3|nt|maribelxx: all depends on their approach after that, which is stronger 1 or 2 @h|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: I was just told from kibitzers that 1@H would have shown 20+|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: so 2@H is less|pg|| nt|maribelxx: ok|pg|| nt|bobholl: oops + 1 now ?|pg|| nt|chick: board 24 at the other table, went down in 4@H, so only a small swing|pg|| pc|c2|nt|onebid: sure - partner doubles hearts, so you lead a diamond|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|thegarve: on the "slam" hand 4H -1, so new to double it to get the big benefit|pg|| pc|d2|nt|onebid: sorry wrong hand on lead|pg|| pc|d7|nt|bobholl: he doubled himself !|pg|| nt|sybarra: you doubled hts |pg|| pc|dJ|nt|aida_mk_nl: and will be artificial |pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: i play sort of polish @C with 1@C-1@D-@H showing or strong with @H or 1nt balanced , have no idea about this system anyway must apologise to kibitzers :)|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: and have a great help from PO and Jaanis |pg|| nt|maribelxx: west has a good hand and it seems his view is the winning one|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|nt|maribelxx: or could have been...|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|maribelxx: had he guessed the spade lie|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2ST8765H742D3CA762,SHKQ96D962CKQT953,SKQJ43HJ853DQT7CJ,SA92HATDAKJ854C84|sv|n|nt|hedyg: 1 imp:)|pg|| mb|2C|nt|royhughes: 11-15, 6+ clubs or 5 with 4M|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 40 imps and 3 boards|pg|| nt|athene: well, E-W had a mountain to climb at the start of this set - now they just have half a mountain :)|pg|| nt|royhughes: and only a couple of minutes to climb it|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|hedyg: 2@d relay|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|royhughes: 6D is the best slam, I think, and it is so-so|pg|| mb|p|nt|royhughes: You need to pick up the trumps and not suffer a club ruff|pg|| nt|hedyg: found the A@c lead in CR|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: It's tough to beat a team when they do that|pg|| mb|p|nt|royhughes: East's 6@d looks normal to me|pg|| nt|hedyg: no indication from opps to guess 3-1 @ds|pg|| nt|athene: south has to decide whether to go for a club ruff or lead a heart and play pd for @HK, using @CA as entry|pg|| pc|s5|nt|athene: surely on the bidding dummy can't have more than one spade so a spade lead isn't getting anywhere|pg|| nt|hausigel: thats a strange lead.|pg|| nt|royhughes: better than a trump|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hausigel: West has shown long clubs, hearts and @D support...|pg|| pc|s4|nt|hedyg: 2nd best after A@c|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|nt|hausigel: I would probably go for @H|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|royhughes: Declarer can hope to cash 4 hearts after the trumps don't break|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|nt|hedyg: but J@H doesnt drop|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|11|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2ST8765H742D3CA762,SHKQ96D962CKQT953,SKQJ43HJ853DQT7CJ,SA92HATDAKJ854C84|sv|n|nt|maribelxx: 3Nt is surely goind down?|pg|| nt|onebid: right, sorry guys|pg|| nt|bobh1: a more sedate hand|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: and now the last board of this event, I would like to thank you Brian our great vug operator, thank to Lea my fellow comentator and to Roland and BBO helping us to be a part of ...|pg|| nt|aida_mk_nl: this event :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: always dangerous to say that bob|pg|| nt|bobh1: true|pg|| mb|2H|nt|maribelxx: and now the last board from Jurmala today|pg|| mb|p|nt|onebid: Stayman maybe?|pg|| nt|bobholl: both short in @C|pg|| nt|bobh1: this is prob a takeout double|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|thegarve: could be all sorts here 6C or 6D|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|aida_mk_nl: thanks to all kibitzers for their help :) and patiance :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: interesting hand actually|pg|| nt|thegarve: they need to go for it |pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: 6d - down on cl|pg|| nt|baldjean: and it looks as if they are doing so|pg|| nt|chick: normally 6@D would be better here, as KQ109xx opposite 8x is not a great trump suit for slam|pg|| mb|6D|nt|aida_mk_nl: lead will not scare the declarer|pg|| nt|bobh1: N has a pretty good dummy for clubs . . .surprised he sold out|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sybarra: I think they can beat it 1 |pg|| nt|chick: in this lie, it won't matter, and diamond slam has potential for a club ruff to set|pg|| nt|bobholl: A of @C @C is easy for us :) |pg|| pc|cA|nt|bobholl: for him too very clever !! :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|thegarve: needed 4D as RKB|pg|| pc|dT|nt|aida_mk_nl: wow|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|maribelxx: that is a view|pg|| pc|h3|mc|11|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SJ2HQT4DJ9CAJT732,SKQ963HJ983D753CQ,S854HAK65DAKT8C86,SAT7H72DQ642CK954|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|hedyg: optimistic 3NT|pg|| nt|athene: well, dummy has a club stop, but unfortunately not much else :)|pg|| nt|royhughes: good analysis|pg|| nt|hedyg: if he ducks @s will come back|pg|| nt|royhughes: Declarer has the option of going up ace and hoping for 8 red tricks|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| nt|hedyg: he heard you:)|pg|| nt|hausigel: probably the best choice here|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|royhughes: The alternative is hoping to win the club jack and win the diamond finesse|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|royhughes: I agree -- I think declarer took the best shot|pg|| nt|hausigel: its not over yet|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes, sometimes funny things happen|pg|| nt|royhughes: But declarer has only 7 tricks here|pg|| nt|hausigel: @H to ten, jack and ace would be a good start|pg|| nt|hausigel: then clubs, and East must guess to shift to @S in time|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|hausigel: ok, this should do|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|h2|mc|7|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SJ2HQT4DJ9CAJT732,SKQ963HJ983D753CQ,S854HAK65DAKT8C86,SAT7H72DQ642CK954|sv|b|nt|onebid: don't know that word:(|pg|| nt|sybarra: tough to make up 50 imps in 4 hands|pg|| nt|bobh1: i meant esthetically lol|pg|| nt|onebid: lol|pg|| nt|chick: very unlucky for EW as the club slam makes|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|chick: another pickup of 12 on board 26 ... 5@D made when E didn't overtake the K@H and give pard the ruff|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|sybarra: I liked the other one better|pg|| mb|d|nt|onebid: I thought I was the only terrible typist:)|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|3S|nt|bobholl: Borlokour missed that one !!|pg|| nt|baldjean: as a German proverb says: "tediously the squirrel feeds". meaning collectin IMP for IMP|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobh1: been taking spelling lessons from Casey Stengel|pg|| mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|bobholl: they have 30 boards or so to catch up isn't it ? :)|pg|| pc|d3|nt|onebid: Yankeefan?????:(|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|nt|sybarra: right they have another set |pg|| nt|chick: Anyone who wants to watch the other room simultaneously can go to http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV|pg|| pc|d4|nt|bobh1: 2 more|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dT|nt|bobholl: what is taking so much time ?|pg|| nt|onebid: he has a few finesses to consider|pg|| nt|sybarra: we may be sent off to cyberspace also |pg|| nt|bobh1: seems clear to come back to dia A and hook a heart|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|onebid: agree - but he has 4 potential losers and can't decide apparently|pg|| nt|bobholl: that's what bob h (olland) thinks|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|s7|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4S975HQ54DKJT3CA83,SAKQ86HJDAQ74CQ52,SJ3HAK983D65CT964,ST42HT762D982CKJ7|sv|o|nt|hedyg: last board now|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: our thanks to our outstanding operator,Omar . well done!to my excellent fellow commentators Roland Voigt, Roy Hughes, Bill Frisby and of course Roland Wald for donating their time ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: to guide us through these boards; as well as to the Bridgesamband Íslands for sharing this event with us, especially to Jóhann who was instrumental in organising these broadcasts|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1H|nt|hedyg: a special thanks to our specs for joining and for their kind and helpful messages. we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| mb|p|an|bad cards|nt|royhughes: Yes, thank you to everyone for a very interesting set|pg|| nt|hedyg: congrats to Eykt|pg|| mb|2H|nt|hedyg: as well as to Breki who put up a good fight!|pg|| nt|hausigel: this segment was really good, considering the huge IMP difference|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hausigel: congratulations to team Eykt|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|athene: did west really pass without a second thought? i guess east could have bid 3@H with a "good" raise|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| nt|hausigel: thank you Hedy, Roy, Bill, Roland and Omar. enjoyed this very much|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| nt|athene: thanks all....|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|vugraphzbt: Thx all for watching|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes if he was maximum of his minimum he would cue|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|royhughes: and West didn't have much extra|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|hedyg: and now we can all go watch Roland!|pg|| pc|d4|nt|royhughes: Declarer plays carefully for the overtrick|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|cT|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg|| nt|royhughes: Bye everyone|pg|| nt|hedyg: and beer!!!!|pg|| nt|vugraphzbt: last trick on diamond 7!|pg|| pc|d7|pc|hK|pc|hT|nt|hausigel: what a finish!|pg|| nt|hedyg: yeahhhhhh! wd!|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|hedyg: what a finish!|pg|| nt|hausigel: bye all|pg|| nt|hedyg: good night|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4S975HQ54DKJT3CA83,SAKQ86HJDAQ74CQ52,SJ3HAK983D65CT964,ST42HT762D982CKJ7|sv|o|nt|onebid: K was better i think|pg|| nt|chick: 4@S possible here|pg|| nt|bobholl: possible but biddable ?!|pg|| nt|chick: probably not|pg|| nt|chick: and not trivial to make, have to handle diamonds before drawing all the trumps|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|d|nt|onebid: Hey - no 6 card suits|pg|| mb|p!|nt|baldjean: with the system I play with my regular partner we would find 4@s. whether we would make it is another question though|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: p asks for rd|pg|| nt|bobholl: won't get to 4@S n ow|pg|| mb|p|mb|r|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|sybarra: and still no 4333 hand|pg|| nt|baldjean: we would not find it aginst this 1nt opening though|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobh1: this will require a club guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobh1: with a hand like S's it is a little tempting to just blast 3n at imps|pg|| nt|bobholl: will not overcome 40 imp deficit|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bobholl: 2 @D a@C and a @S|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|chick: 5 uncompared boards to go|pg|| pc|cT|nt|onebid: If declarer discovers W has AQ@D and passed in 3rd seat, probably won't play him for A@C|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|nt|sybarra: seemed to make that decision early |pg|| nt|onebid: guess so|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|bobh1: cant see any reason for declarer to get the trumps right unfortunately|pg|| nt|bobholl: isn't he exposing his @S now|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| nt|bobh1: can he make on a x-ruff?|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|nt|bobholl: not 3@H standing up !|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|thegarve: will be tough to|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SAQT7H9854DQ93C98,S86432HKT6D72CJ43,SJHAJ3DJ854CAQT65,SK95HQ72DAKT6CK72|sv|n|nt|vugraphzbt: hi all, have fun :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|nt|hedyg: precision 1@d opening|pg|| nt|royhughes: and a brave 1NT overcall|pg|| nt|Walddk2: đ (special d), Ţ (th) and ţ (th in the middle of a word) are special Icelandic characters. You see that special Th in Ţorlákur and the special D in Sigurđur|pg|| mb|d|nt|athene: east doesn't have much playing strength for 1NT but the @D10 is nice card|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|royhughes: Yes it is. |pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@d is 11+ and can be without @ds|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: so 1NT is almost obligatory|pg|| mb|p|nt|royhughes: It's the modern way. I like to have more for 1NT|pg|| nt|athene: south awaits partner's double|pg|| nt|royhughes: So NS are playing a lot of low-level doubles for takeout?|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|athene: i guess - otherwise he would have doubled himself|pg|| nt|royhughes: especially down 75 imps|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2NT was surely not natural here|pg|| pc|sK|nt|athene: 2nt was minors, but south decides it's as good a place as any|pg|| nt|royhughes: But if South's double would have been for takeout, I'm surprised North didn't make a takeout double himself|pg|| nt|hausigel: something about the NS bidding feels not right here|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|athene: north probably just didn't want to double at the 2-level with a singleton|pg|| nt|athene: even if partner has 4 trumps, opps are in an 8-card fit|pg|| nt|hedyg: i assume that X by S would have been penalty|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|royhughes: I suspect Bill is right -- all doubles takeout but North unwilling to defend|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|royhughes: but that's just a guess|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|nt|royhughes: Lots of tricks available here in 2NT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|h5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|Walddk2: We will be starting with boards 31-32 in this room and get comparisons from the closed room when we roll over to board 17|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=4837 Ţorlákur Jónsson|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=830 Jón Baldursson|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SAQT7H9854DQ93C98,S86432HKT6D72CJ43,SJHAJ3DJ854CAQT65,SK95HQ72DAKT6CK72|sv|n|nt|onebid: 3 six baggers and one 7|pg|| nt|baldjean: +1?|pg|| nt|baldjean: looked like +2 to me|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: he said 9 tricks|pg|| nt|bobholl: on 28 also 6@d down|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobh1: declarer might have asked himself why E would not ruff the diamond|pg|| nt|bobholl: nice 6@S|pg|| nt|sybarra: magic 6 @S |pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1N|nt|onebid: both rooms overcall 2@H, but at favorable it seems a little strong|pg|| nt|bobholl: takes away room :)|pg|| nt|bobh1: 1 imp available in heart save!|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 3NT is known as a baby-psyche|pg|| mb|p|nt|onebid: takes away partner's understanding of your hand too|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|sybarra: seemed not to deter S |pg|| mb|2S!|nt|bobh1: sometimes maybe better not to wave a red flag in front of a bull|pg|| nt|onebid: yes, they have been consistently (although maybe recklessly) aggressive|pg|| nt|bobholl: if opponents think i make 6 i bid it ! :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| nt|chick: down 1 on good defense but there are ways for the defenders to go wrong|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|baldjean: down 1 would win 2 IMPs, which is too few|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SAT9654HJ43D8CAJT,SH6DQT7654CK97543,SKJ7HAKQ52DK92CQ2,SQ832HT987DAJ3C86|sv|e|nt|hedyg: ok ending was slightly different|pg|| nt|hedyg: but quick|pg|| nt|athene: lots of swing potential here|pg|| nt|hedyg: dealer having fun again|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: E and N have balanced hands ... and then 0166 with West|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|hedyg: must find Q@s|pg|| mb|1N|nt|athene: E-W play a 2NT opener as a weak 3minor pre-empt, not both minors, so no convenient opening for west|pg|| nt|royhughes: NS have to guess the spade to make a slam -- EW intervention might help|pg|| nt|royhughes: West maintains a discreet silence|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Keeping a low profile|pg|| nt|hausigel: 6@S makes... even at those colors, 7@D might be cheaper|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Ahhhh|pg|| mb|2H|nt|royhughes: I think 7D -800|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Very unlike Jón to pass|pg|| mb|3H|nt|hausigel: now it will me much easier to guess the spades|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|athene: 1nt seems a bit pointless - no pre-emptive effect, and pd will never sac at these colours; so it just helps opps play the hand|pg|| nt|royhughes: I was just about to ask who would bid 1NT. Not Bill!|pg|| nt|hedyg: pd didnt think he needed to double 4@d|pg|| nt|hausigel: if at all, 2NT... takes away more space, but unlikely to come expensive if doubled|pg|| nt|royhughes: I much prefer 1NT to 2NT, but that's just my cowardice|pg|| nt|royhughes: I think maybe pass is best, but unpopular|pg|| nt|athene: 2nt tells partner you have serious shape so he might be able to compete when it's right|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|hedyg: not sure 1NT shows minors, might be just @c|pg|| nt|royhughes: That's true, but for me 1NT would show real playing strength at this vulnerability|pg|| mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: I think that with no intervention South would guess the spades, since he can handle 4-0 only in the East|pg|| pc|c4|nt|royhughes: unless he takes first-round finesse|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| nt|hedyg: IMO if 1NT showed both minors E might have doubled 4@d|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|d4|pg|| nt|hedyg: 13 tricks later.....|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mubashir17: great |pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c5|pc|d2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c9|pc|hA|mc|13|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SAT9654HJ43D8CAJT,SH6DQT7654CK97543,SKJ7HAKQ52DK92CQ2,SQ832HT987DAJ3C86|sv|e|nt|onebid: N and W can make 6@D|pg|| nt|sybarra: not helpful however|pg|| nt|baldjean: there goes the last hope. Eykt just won 9 IMPs at the other table|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|sybarra: this is last hand of this set |pg|| nt|bobholl: 6 @H ew very optimistic|pg|| nt|bobh1: seems possible to avoid this slam|pg|| mb|d|mb|3D!|nt|onebid: I would think so|pg|| nt|sybarra: Many thanks to our wonderful operator, Isak. Well done!|pg|| mb|4S|nt|onebid: Indeed!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobholl: did'n t see any faults !! :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: And to my fellow commentators Judy, Bob and Bob (Bote) for donating their time and for sharing their insights about the hands. Always interesting discussion! |pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: oh well, it's fun to cheer for the underdog, but we still want the best team to win :)|pg|| pc|d7|nt|onebid: And to you Shirley, as always:)|pg|| nt|baldjean: nevber say never, big swing here|pg|| pc|d2|nt|bobh1: thx njoyed and looking forward to the last 2 sets|pg|| nt|sybarra: Thanks also to the organizers in Iceland for bringing this event to BBO, especially to Johann Sigurdarsson who was instrumental in organizing these broadcasts |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|sybarra: and of course to the Icelandic Bridge Federation.|pg|| nt|onebid: Again, EW playing a tight match.|pg|| nt|sybarra: And of course Roland a BIG thanks to you for all the work you do in coordinating all of us. |pg|| nt|onebid: Yay for Roland!!!|pg|| nt|Walddk4: :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|thegarve: my biggest comeback is down 50 with 8 to go in a big 48 board match - all is possible|pg|| pc|s4|nt|sybarra: we appreciate all the specs comments, you keep us on the straight and narrow. @h|pg|| pc|c4|nt|onebid: nice play by North|pg|| nt|bobh1: this is an annoying hand to declare|pg|| pc|sK|nt|onebid: and the 2@D bid has way more defense than is usual|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|mc|12|nt|thegarve: we checked the vulnerabilities very careful after it looked like we won by 2|pg|| nt|baldjean: i remeber the final (or was it sedmi-final?) of the yout world championship between USA and Italy a few years ago|pg|| nt|chick: Thanks to my fellow commentators for a great session! And especially to Isak for an excellent job as Operator!!|pg|| nt|chick: To the kibs for their comments and for keeping us honest :)|pg|| nt|baldjean: USA had been trailing by over 60 IMPs and it seemd all over. in the end Italy needed to find a grand at the last board to win (which they did)|pg|| nt|vugraphzbu: thks!|pg|| pg||