vg|WHite House top 16,Round 2 White,I,15,28,Ventin,0,France,0| rs|4HE=,4HE=,6SS=,5SS+1,4HEx-2,4HE-2,4NE+1,6SW=,2NW=,3NE-1,5HW-1,5HWx-2,5SWx-3,5SWx-1,4SW=,4SW=,4SN-2,3SS=,3NW-1,3NW-1,4HE+2,4HE+2,6SW=,6SW=,1NE=,2NS-2,4HN+2,5CS=| pn|Brogeland,Levy,Lambardi,Mouiel,T Bessis,Fernandes,M Bessis,ventin|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SA6542HQ3D642CA65,SKT873H754DAQCQJ4,SQJH96DKJ53CT9732,S9HAKJT82DT987CK8|sv|n|nt|mariner1: http://www.hetwittehuisbridge.nl/WhiteHouseTournament-2008/ - tournament site with results link|pg|| nt|mariner1: 4@h EW now|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: 4 @h again but EW|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|mariner1: for some reason Closed did not make 5|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|lebridgeur: french systemic 2@s|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jallerton: to show a minimum?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| nt|mariner1: yes 2@s to show a min, I assume 2@h was GF|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: 2 Nt would show better and 3 @h 4 cards or 3 with an honour|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|jallerton: interesting underlead of @cA at trick 1|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|lebridgeur: no they do not play strict over one but rarely stop after 1 @s 2 @h|pg|| nt|othered1: Very much like 1970 Eastern Scientific in USA (which I still prefer in strong NT partnerships)|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: * 2 ver 1|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hQ|mc|10|nt|mariner1: so a push|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SA6542HQ3D642CA65,SKT873H754DAQCQJ4,SQJH96DKJ53CT9732,S9HAKJT82DT987CK8|sv|n|nt|joest: rehi to all|pg|| nt|vugraph140: we will start with board 7, not this board|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Also welcome to Arno Lindermann from Austria|pg|| nt|arno11: hi everybody|pg|| nt|vugraph140: Players still checking systems|pg|| nt|joest: hi Arno|pg|| nt|joest: I suspect east-west are done with Moysian heart fits for this set|pg|| nt|babydolldk: here we go|pg|| nt|vugraph815: p|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|snorre: Justin and Nick Sandqvist played pairs together and fiished 18th....|pg|| nt|snorre: The brothers are back together here...|pg|| nt|snorre: Justin with de Button of c|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|joest: Zwol amazed not tohear a 2@h rebid|pg|| nt|joest: or 2@s|pg|| nt|babydolldk: it looks like 3nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|snorre: Iceland will probably end up in 3NT...|pg|| nt|sommer: hi all|pg|| nt|babydolldk: Hi Povl|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sommer: ..and a straightforward 3NT from N|pg|| pc|d2|nt|rosaline: would you consider 3@C forcing?|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|joest: 3@c must have been forcing although I wouldn't think so|pg|| nt|joest: some pairs play transfers here|pg|| pc|dK|nt|sommer: N must be carefull, tho|pg|| nt|babydolldk: e/w need to set up 1@S or 1@h trick|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|snorre: seems hard for defence to set up their 5th trick... attacking hearts maybe ?|pg|| nt|snorre: best lead|pg|| nt|babydolldk: good lead|pg|| pc|c2|nt|joest: but this doesn't look like it|pg|| nt|rosaline: I dont think that 3@C should be forcing|pg|| nt|rosaline: as I already mentioned, NS are Not a regular partnership|pg|| nt|arno11: a little too high..|pg|| nt|joest: South has a tough problem even in a regular partnership. I don't know how many pairs could unwind a minor two suiter after this start|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|rosaline: Wietske van Zwol is a former Venice cup winner (in 2000 to be precise :))|pg|| nt|sommer: yes, N, must take @HA..ooops|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|nt|joest: sporting of Jorstad to stay off the double|pg|| nt|arno11: 4@D is the last making spot for NS|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|nt|babydolldk: if N plays on the @C first - he'll still make it|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|c6|nt|joest: nice play|pg|| nt|sommer: right|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|nt|sommer: @HA, @C|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|hK|nt|joest: not such a nice play|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|nt|rosaline: lol|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|babydolldk: ok, perhaps still - endplay e|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|nt|babydolldk: no!|pg|| nt|sommer: no entrance to N's hand to play the last @C:(|pg|| nt|sommer: ..@H|pg|| pc|h5|nt|snorre: good start for the englishmen.... they have set up their 5th trick now... :)|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAJ7432HAKJT8D5C8,SQ9HQ97652D84CQ96,SKT5H3DKQJ92CAJ53,S86H4DAT763CKT742|sv|e|mb|p|nt|mariner1: slam here if the can find it|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: is Ed meaning that Levy Mouiel avre 38 years late compared to US ?|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|mariner1: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't, ...|pg|| nt|mariner1: Open one browser window per table|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|lebridgeur: if they play RKCB they will know that one ace and the Queen of trump are missing|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|mariner1: S has 6 though so might bid it anyway|pg|| nt|jallerton: they might prefer not to be playing RKCB here|pg|| nt|jallerton: with @s 2-2 6@s makes|pg|| nt|mariner1: N is probably wondering if he over bid with 3@s now|pg|| nt|othered1: Not at all -- no aspersionc cast at Levy Mouiel -- just noting similarities with what, say, Jordan-Robinson used to play when they represented the USA. And I personally think it's ...|pg|| nt|othered1: a winning style.|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: south bid is of course stronger than a direct 4@h bid|pg|| mb|5C|mb|d|mb|6S|nt|lebridgeur: they might avoid RKCB :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|mariner1: so now to make|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|jallerton: Clearly N did not think 3@s was a stretch as he went past game himself|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|jallerton: ...with the 5@c cue bid|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: far bieng made !|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: *being|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: my bet is that it will be down|pg|| nt|mariner1: has to pull trumps now|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: Brogeland is switching between 4 and ace..|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| nt|mariner1: now has it|pg|| mc|12|nt|mariner1: very nice|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SAJ7432HAKJT8D5C8,SQ9HQ97652D84CQ96,SKT5H3DKQJ92CAJ53,S86H4DAT763CKT742|sv|e|nt|snorre: Spillefører måtte alstå fjernet øst sine kløver inntak for å vinne kontrakten. |pg|| nt|Walddk7: Margrét forstår det også, det gør de fleste islændinge|pg|| nt|sommer: denne gang er det ØV's tur til en tricky 3NT|pg|| nt|snorre: opp på hjerter ess og kløver i stikk to var medisinen..|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Taler du dansk, Margrét?|pg|| nt|sommer: "tricky"...godt dansk ord!!|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|joest: closed room 2NT rolled home -- a contract that first blush appears beatable|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rosaline: would you also have doubled 2@S?|pg|| mb|p|nt|joest: I think 2@s is spades + minor|pg|| nt|sommer: ja, en slags "dentists coup", som forhindrer den fjerde @H i at blive rejst|pg|| mb|2C|nt|snorre: godt å se at ikke alle spiller 5-kort major !! Acol-inspirerte engelskmenn ?|pg|| nt|sommer: Englændere spiller ofte acol, som vi ser|pg|| mb|p|nt|rosaline: correct|pg|| nt|babydolldk: ikke den bedste start for modspillet|pg|| nt|snorre: I Norge hadde vi meldt inn 1@s... AKxxx er MER enn nok |pg|| nt|sommer: tvillingerne er godt opdraget af far Paul.. |pg|| mb|3H|nt|arno11: 2@S was horrible|pg|| nt|joest: I think 2NT is a standout by West. Why double with a 4=3=3=3 hand, a spade stopper and ahand in the nt range?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rosaline: it shows exactly 5@Ss and 4+ in a minor|pg|| nt|joest: east-west should be getting good at playing 4-3 heart contracts|pg|| nt|arno11: no matter what it showed :)|pg|| mb|3S|nt|Walddk7: Nu betyder udspillet ikke så meget, når de er standset i 1NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|Walddk7: Mange vil være i 3NT med 25 HP|pg|| mb|4D|nt|rosaline: I´d like to tell you a bit about the set up in this tournament, we (Karen and I) are sitting in a room seperated from the big playing area|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|rosaline: we have here 1 table to broadcast on BBO (and we drink many Passion fruit juices)|pg|| nt|rosaline: the closed room of this match is stationed in the main playing area with the other tables|pg|| mb|4N|nt|joest: just to interrupt a brief sec Rosaline, I am surprised north did not return a LOW diamond asking for a club return|pg|| nt|rosaline: I am *running* from this table to the other table to collect the boards and scores from the other room|pg|| nt|joest: wow sounds like you have your hands more than full|pg|| nt|vugraph140: me too Jack|pg|| nt|rosaline: this is not a regular partnership, I dont know what their agreements are|pg|| nt|joest: well you're doing great|pg|| nt|vugraph140: surprised I mean:)|pg|| nt|joest: some pairs do play "upside down" suit preference but that is a very small minority|pg|| nt|arno11: this opening bid produced a plus score for NS, but still...|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|nt|sommer: ja, og denne er forholdsvis meget lettere end spil 1|pg|| mb|p|nt|lusobrasil: Hi everybody. Sorry for the lateness|pg|| nt|joest: hello rui|pg|| nt|rosaline: still this contract will go down of course|pg|| nt|arno11: if EW only had passed throughout the opening bid would have got what it deserved|pg|| nt|Walddk7: http://psbridge.gotdns.com/bbo/allvug/ for updated vugraph hand records (PDF)|pg|| mb|5S|mb|p|nt|arno11: hi|pg|| nt|snorre: i Åpent starter de på spill 4, så vi får ikke sammenligninger før om litt...|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph140: hi Rui:)|pg|| nt|joest: I don't know style but I dont like 2@s at unfavorable second seat|pg|| mb|p|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|joest: once one hand has passed the odds have increased (although not true) here that you rate to trap your partner rather than your opponents|pg|| nt|joest: this is not to mention the risk of going for a |pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|cK|nt|arno11: you also have 3 cards in @H and might barr yourself from finding a heart fir|pg|| nt|arno11: fit|pg|| pc|c8|nt|joest: true but when you're playing ahyperactive style overall you're committed to accepting those types of losses|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|snorre: 14 + 11 = utgang i IMP's...|pg|| nt|sommer: enig i at S godt kan melde 1@S - selv alene i zonen|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|nt|babydolldk: hmm, det gør jeg ikke. |pg|| pc|h8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s5|nt|rosaline: I play the same convention with my partner Astrid, Muiderberg itºs callen in Holland|pg|| nt|joest: It's standard fare for almost every Polish pair I know|pg|| nt|rosaline: we agreed to be very careful with it especially when having a 3crd in the other major|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|rosaline: (same as with multi coloured 2@D btw)|pg|| nt|joest: so would opening 2@s here constitute "being very careful with it" with you and your partner? :)|pg|| nt|rosaline: 2nd hand vulnarable against not? hehehehe|pg|| nt|joest: i understand|pg|| mc|12|nt|rosaline: :) :) :)|pg|| nt|joest: not sure how he claimed for down one but nice job if he got away with it|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SA8632HAJ32DQ9C85,SKT7HDKJT862CQ762,SJ954H854D43CAT93,SQHKQT976DA75CKJ4|sv|o|nt|lebridgeur: sorry I just forgot trumps wxere 2 2 :( lol|pg|| mb|p|nt|mariner1: nice misfit her|pg|| nt|mariner1: here|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|mariner1: if W chirps we are in game|pg|| nt|jallerton: 5@d can be made|pg|| nt|mariner1: kibbers point out that 5@d makes|pg|| mb|3D|nt|lebridgeur: yes difficulty is to bid it|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: NS keep on wondering why 1N wasnt alerted..|pg|| nt|mariner1: and the 2@s call may get them there|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: oops wrong spot|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|jallerton: E didn't even consider pulling to 5@d|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: brogeland action might have been desastrous if East had the idea to bid 5@d after the double|pg|| nt|mariner1: E should have bid 4 or 5@d |pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|d2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|h2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|mc|8|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SA8632HAJ32DQ9C85,SKT7HDKJT862CQ762,SJ954H854D43CAT93,SQHKQT976DA75CKJ4|sv|o|nt|rosaline: i think btw that 2@D with north wouldnt be a weird bidding :)|pg|| nt|joest: absolutely right|pg|| nt|arno11: and also West! http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=3398|pg|| nt|sommer: W's 1 NT var vel lige sund nok?.. 11 + en 10'er?|pg|| nt|sommer: AKxxx går lige an for mig:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|snorre: både øst og vest hadde vel maks for sine meldinger, da blir det ofte 150.... :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3S|nt|rosaline: many people are afraid to bid ´only´ 2@D with such a ´strong´ hand. But that is not nessecary at all|pg|| nt|joest: hmm|pg|| nt|rosaline: okay now this board|pg|| mb|4H|nt|joest: double: the unanimous choice :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|joest: I have played a t/o style with some partners called "clubs on your own" :)|pg|| nt|arno11: X rather strange :)|pg|| nt|rosaline: is it? :)|pg|| nt|joest: meaning I promise the majors. You're on your own if you bid clubs. This is perfect!|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|nt|sommer: den her går vel lige?|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|arno11: or her son:)|pg|| nt|arno11: sry|pg|| pc|c8|nt|joest: this is a good way to play a 5-1 club fit when you have a 5-3 heart fit|pg|| nt|rosaline: we havent seen many makable contracts at this table yet!|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|nt|sommer: S må dog spille @C først|pg|| nt|sommer: uha nej... ingen chance|pg|| nt|snorre: I Norge har vi en konvensjon som heter EKRENS for vest sin hånd, 5-10 hp og minst 44 i major. (2@d) Det hadde kjøpt kontrakten her i 2hj|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|d2|pc|h5|pg|| nt|lusobrasil: blame the dealer...|pg|| nt|sommer: ja, men Ekren kræver vel normalt mindst 5-4 alene i zonen?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|nt|babydolldk: god @HK|pg|| nt|snorre: tja.... |pg|| nt|sommer: ..Jxxxx er selvfølge også 5:)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|joest: declarer would like to work hearts but is concerned about a trump promotion|pg|| pc|c3|nt|vugraph140: he?s not afraid:)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|joest: concerned. although can always just shed his spade on a third heart play. that would be a ticket to two down here|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| mc|8|nt|sommer: apropos Ekren...mange danskere, der er Ekren-fans, åbner ikke 2@D, men 2@H for at vise begge MA|pg|| nt|babydolldk: this time the endplay works|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SJ82HJT6DQ82C9853,SAT963HQ3DT9CAKT2,S75H952DA7654CJ64,SKQ4HAK874DKJ3CQ7|sv|n|nt|lebridgeur: a good and steady slam|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|mariner1: 6@s or 6N in E|pg|| nt|mariner1: a @d lead, small, from N is challenging|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|lebridgeur: 6 @s impossible by East so 6 Nt by East is the best contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|mariner1: yes I meant 6@s or if E bid 6N|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|mariner1: in 6N its a 11 or 13 likely depending on lead|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: that could be west choice here against 6 @s North "might" lead a small @d|pg|| nt|mariner1: wow no slam|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jallerton: misunderstanding?|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: no|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: West showed 5@S and an INV|pg|| nt|othered1: Somehow it looks like east left the @SQ "unbid"|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: I think that 3@s showed fit and for west 4 NT was a clear BW|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mariner1: someone invites me with E I am ready to party!|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SJ82HJT6DQ82C9853,SAT963HQ3DT9CAKT2,S75H952DA7654CJ64,SKQ4HAK874DKJ3CQ7|sv|n|nt|joest: 3NT was rather high on the north south cards in the closed room|pg|| nt|snorre: Nå er vi klare til å sammenligne...|pg|| mb|1H|nt|lusobrasil: a couple of late tables, break time probably 20 minutes|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|snorre: +660 er et meget godt resultat for NS i Åpent...|pg|| nt|sommer: 3NT kan vinde!..ikke 4MA|pg|| mb|2D|nt|sommer: ja.. 2 gange 5 majorstik + minorudspillet|pg|| mb|p|nt|arno11: they might get to 6@S now|pg|| mb|2S|nt|sommer: ..her kommer der måske ikke @D på S' hånd|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|rosaline: no :)|pg|| nt|joest: 4@s is a massive underbid in my mind|pg|| nt|babydolldk: hmm|pg|| nt|sommer: hmm..3@H er vel krav?|pg|| nt|sommer: "Vælg 3NT eller 4@H"|pg|| nt|snorre: Nå vi ser bare NS sine kort, er kanskje 3@h er ok sted å stoppe...|pg|| mb|p|nt|arno11: I think S should at least splinter the N wld maybe still sign off over 4@C |pg|| mb|3N|nt|sommer: ..med mindre man spiller med en 3@C som eneste krav|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|nt|joest: and if NOrth wants to operate a bit with 1NT (which I don't like with this hand), he's far too strong. 17 highs and a semi-solid six card suit?|pg|| nt|sommer: jo, for så vidt..4@H kan jo ikke vinde med en lille @C nu|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|sommer: wow!|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|6S|nt|sommer: hvad mener I om 3@H.. nf?|pg|| nt|babydolldk: jeg spiller det som krav|pg|| nt|sommer: ja, det var jeg da ret sikker på:)|pg|| nt|babydolldk: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk7: Alt er krav, invit'er er afskaffet ved lov|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d6|nt|sommer: ...så vi skal ikke ud i aften alligel, Roland?|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Walddk7: Jeg går ikke ud med herrer|pg|| nt|sommer: ..."Herremiddag"!!|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|mc|12|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SA743HQJ9DA9876CA,S9HAK63DKT43CQJ63,ST652HT72DJ5CT874,SKQJ8H854DQ2CK952|sv|e|nt|othered1: Guess both east and west thought they had bid out their hands and found each other with the right maximums|pg|| nt|othered1: Not all that uncommon in NT track auctions|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: the old 13 opposite 11 3N in Closed|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|mariner1: well France will get on the board now|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: it possible to collect 9 tricks I think but nothing to object to stay out of game with 24 HCP|pg|| nt|jallerton: yes, no hope on a @d lead|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|mariner1: @c now,,, come back to @s|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: UDCA in Ns|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|nt|jallerton: clear @d to hold to 8|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: So South could have taken the first @s now 9 tricks avaliable not that it matter much|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SA743HQJ9DA9876CA,S9HAK63DKT43CQJ63,ST652HT72DJ5CT874,SKQJ8H854DQ2CK952|sv|e|nt|arno11: That´s right but 1NT has the advantage that opps will not easily find a major suit fit |pg|| nt|babydolldk: 6@H|pg|| nt|sommer: ØV har den bedste fit nu|pg|| nt|sommer: sød lille slem|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Ingen kan melde slem, når de mangler to keycards|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Det kunne være to esser|pg|| nt|snorre: Er det noen som kjenner det Islandske laget ?|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|joest: That's fair. You have to decide what risk you want toguard against|pg|| nt|sommer: når N åbner, kunne man "adoptere" den gode ide at spørge efter RENE esser vestfra!! ..@HK sidder jo i plads!|pg|| nt|babydolldk: jeg kender dem ikke|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Nej, det er ikke et af de kendte islandske hold|pg|| mb|1N|nt|sommer: heller ikke jeg|pg|| mb|p|nt|joest: but when they DO find it, you are now guessing b/c you know that maybe you should be bidding on in diamonds|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|arno11: does not look very thrilling|pg|| mb|3N|nt|Walddk7: Interesting board here. You have just the entries you need to do everything right if you are in slam|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Det er Swiss, så jeg formoder der er en form for seedning i 1. og måske også 2. runde|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk7: Englænderne er uden tvivl seedet|pg|| nt|snorre: definitivt ikke et av de beste.... :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|arno11: flat board now|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c2|nt|joest: some would jump to 4@s as north. 11 is a high for a hand that bids 3@s under pressure -- even with the queen of diamonds questionable|pg|| nt|sommer: uff|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| nt|snorre: ojojoj.... dette kan bli bedre enn det så ut.....|pg|| nt|babydolldk: jeg har været i værre dob. games end denne:)|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|sommer: ja, er det jo allerede |pg|| pc|c5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|lusobrasil: table 1 van helsing 20 druva 27 13-17|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|babydolldk: men ned skal den - hvis e ikke stikker med !E før 3. gang|pg|| nt|sommer: brug hellere 8'eren!|pg|| mc|8|nt|babydolldk: @S|pg|| nt|sommer: ok|pg|| nt|snorre: øst klarer nok å dukke sparen to ganger... husk at Nord støttet til 4@s|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAT764H9DKT95C654,SQ8HAJT654DA4CKT7,SKJ932HKQ8DJ632C8,S5H732DQ87CAQJ932|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|lebridgeur: 4 @s makes with the Q of @d right|pg|| nt|jallerton: The pare result was achieved in CR|pg|| mb|2C|nt|mariner1: not likely to be in it though|pg|| mb|3H|an|no agreements, !S's probably|nt|lebridgeur: the Law bids 4 @s with South's hand !|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: he could have bid 4@h to show shortness|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|mariner1: anyone else thinking 5@c from W?|pg|| nt|mariner1: no DBL no trouble|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|h3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s6|mc|10|nt|lebridgeur: North was at fault not to double South bidding shows something else apart @s|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: NS discussing 3@H bid now|pg|| nt|eerdvegas: good afternoon|pg|| nt|mariner1: hi Erik|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: hi |pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAT764H9DKT95C654,SQ8HAJT654DA4CKT7,SKJ932HKQ8DJ632C8,S5H732DQ87CAQJ932|sv|b|nt|arno11: after this round there are 2 more ??|pg|| nt|joest: I believe this is the last board|pg|| nt|lusobrasil: yes|pg|| nt|lusobrasil: yes 2 more rounds|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|4D|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|joest: was 3@d puppet?|pg|| nt|arno11: interesting if the still will find @Hs|pg|| nt|joest: this would be a critical hand to be using that convention|pg|| nt|snorre: Når (hvis) jeg dobler med syd sine kort, må jeg neste gang ta stilling til en HØY kløvermelding fra makker..|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|joest: actually Aarmot could make 7 if he was in it|pg|| nt|arno11: I think W just showed @S+@D|pg|| nt|vugraph140: 3@D was not alerted, so don't know|pg|| nt|joest: really? I'd be concerned he just bid a natural nonforcing 4NT|pg|| nt|joest: but I defer to you Arno :)|pg|| nt|vugraph140: haha already told you, Ronny is not concerned easy I think:)|pg|| nt|arno11: difficult for E too see 4NT as RKC for @Hs|pg|| nt|joest: let's put it this way. East is thinking and that can't be good if you're blackwooding|pg|| nt|arno11: at least 6NT is also making|pg|| nt|joest: as is 4NT :)|pg|| nt|vugraph140: haha|pg|| mb|p|pc|d6|nt|arno11: 4NT is really looking natural as 4@C is a possible alternative|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|nt|joest: confirms all key cards so I suspect we see 6@c next|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|arno11: 5NT: another chance to pass :)|pg|| pc|hA|nt|babydolldk: åh var det !RD?|pg|| pc|h8|nt|babydolldk: @D|pg|| nt|sommer: jeg foretrækker også 2@D... man kan jo altid komme igen, hvis makker skulle have noget|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|nt|joest: WOW|pg|| pc|c2|nt|lusobrasil: 15 minutes break, no problem|pg|| nt|arno11: looks like a big swing for the norwegians|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|nt|sommer: ...men mon ikke dette ender med en streg|pg|| nt|snorre: det har nok vært en misclick eller to her også... :)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c9|nt|joest: this should tie the match|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|sommer: tja|pg|| nt|babydolldk: det tror jeg også:)|pg|| nt|sommer: :)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAHQ842DAK7432CQ8,SKT96542HAKJ9DC53,SQ7HT3D865CAKJT96,SJ83H765DQJT9C742|sv|n|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|mariner1: 3N from S tempting to me|pg|| nt|othered1: Lambardi's standards for a preempt differ markedly from Levy's (see board 28)|pg|| nt|mariner1: that is a VUL vs NV preempt|pg|| mb|3D|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: well W shuts that down|pg|| mb|5C|nt|mariner1: pass works |pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|othered1: great double, if it's Lightner|pg|| mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: S has to hit this|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|lebridgeur: i doubt it is a Lightner it shows additionnal values outside @s|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|d2|nt|mariner1: nice continue|pg|| nt|mariner1: oh S did not ruff!|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| nt|mariner1: well it works out|pg|| nt|mariner1: for defense|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: no matter west got it wrong:(|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c6|pc|sJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SAHQ842DAK7432CQ8,SKT96542HAKJ9DC53,SQ7HT3D865CAKJT96,SJ83H765DQJT9C742|sv|n|nt|joest: while we're waiting can anyone clue us in on the standings of these two teams?|pg|| nt|joest: This is the 10th round of 12 in a swiss teams|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Maybe Rosaline can give us the link to the standings|pg|| nt|rosaline: http://www.lusobridge.com/main/2006_2007Festivais/mad2007results.htm|pg|| nt|vugraph140: 3 and 4 |pg|| nt|rosaline: these are the results|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Thanks Roos|pg|| nt|joest: thanks very much|pg|| nt|rosaline: for pictures and bulletins go to http://www.bridge-madeira.com/Tournament-2007/index.html|pg|| nt|vugraph140: starting now|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Rosaline is multi-tasking: hostess, TD, commentating, etc.|pg|| nt|joest: good luck Rosaline|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|joest: this is probably a 2@s raise although some would think it courting trouble to raise vulnerable on that junk|pg|| nt|sommer: ØV har 60% af pointene, men ikke noget godt sted at spille|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|sommer: .. 24 point KUNNE være nok, men denne kræver mere end almindeligt held for at vinde|pg|| mb|p|nt|snorre: LIVE resultater her: http://this.is/taptech/open2008/index.php?m=D3&id=M_OPENTEAMS2008&iid=IF_OPENTEAMS2008|pg|| nt|sommer: ..er vist 2 død med bedste modspil|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|nt|joest: n-s awfully close to alucky 3NT|pg|| nt|arno11: 2@S will be one down losing 2@S, 2@D 1@C and 1@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|5S|mb|d|nt|joest: yes|pg|| nt|joest: but in bbo I've learned to say "should be" down one :)|pg|| nt|rosaline: this is the third time that team Van Zwol is on vugraph now, and maybe some have already noticed, but they played every match in a different formation|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|joest: good play. NOrth does not rate to have a promotable trump holding (like Jxx) once west cannot rebid 2@s onhis own|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h2|mc|10|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SJ832HT86DQT86CA6,SAKQ4HAK94DAJCKJ4,S6HJ753D975CQT853,ST975HQ2DK432C972|sv|e|nt|jallerton: well stopped in the CR|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: nice hand for west |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|jallerton: slam would make EW on a very good day|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|lebridgeur: Cr rooms involved a GF forcing 2 @d opening 2 Nt and puppet Stayman|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|lebridgeur: 3NT both major |pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lebridgeur: 4 @d transfer for @s 2 @d was GF|pg|| nt|mariner1: interesting way to get to 4@s|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|nt|othered1: Nice to have a way to get a 26 count into the auction at a suitable level|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|d5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|cT|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SJ832HT86DQT86CA6,SAKQ4HAK94DAJCKJ4,S6HJ753D975CQT853,ST975HQ2DK432C972|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|joest: Rosaline and Arno, is it your style to bid 1NT here or raise diamonds?|pg|| nt|rosaline: I would like to take a minute to tell about this wonderful tournament in Madeira, a beautiful island of portugal|pg|| nt|sommer: normal 3NT i S, men den vist sættes med en imaginær @H6 i udspil!!:)|pg|| nt|sommer: ..eller måske bliver W slutspillet|pg|| mb|p|nt|rosaline: With a total prize money of € 27.500 and a great diversity of nationalities this tournament is taking a unique position on the list of bridge festivals.|pg|| nt|arno11: I wld always raise @D|pg|| mb|2H|nt|sommer: hvad nu?|pg|| nt|sommer: er 2@S krav eller invit?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rosaline: first we had a pairs event with 108 pairs|pg|| mb|2N|nt|babydolldk: krav i min bog. Men ikke her!|pg|| mb|p|nt|snorre: De norske favorittene, Jan Petter Svendsen, med 25VP i første kamp.. http://this.is/taptech/open2008/index.php?m=D3&id=M_OPENTEAMS2008&iid=IF_OPENTEAMS2008|pg|| nt|sommer: også i min bog|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|sommer: F1 selvfølgelig ..ike GF|pg|| nt|babydolldk: ja, enig|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|rosaline: this was won by Clas Nyberg - Kauko Koistinen from Finland|pg|| nt|rosaline: oh hihi didnt see your question, in teams for sure 2@D|pg|| nt|arno11: 2@H was a nice bid but this contract will suffer from @C ruffs|pg|| mb|3S|nt|joest: Not sure I would lhave chosen 2@h|pg|| nt|arno11: me neither :)|pg|| nt|joest: I think it was Sir Walter Scott who penned the lines "when first we practice to deceive..."|pg|| nt|joest: I don't know if 2NT would be natural and I think responsive double shows both majors|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|sommer: N er for god til 3@D - må vel næsten forsøge en 3@C eller så?|pg|| mb|p|nt|joest: 3@c is possible but I don't like that either so in fairnes it's a tough decision|pg|| nt|rosaline: At the closed table are playing for team Valen, Bjorn Sture Valen and Egil Hansen, |pg|| nt|joest: 5@c is a much better game but would require some good guessing, like hooking the ten of spades|pg|| nt|rosaline: For team van Zwol are playing H. Broek and R. Gragt|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|arno11: 5@C for sure much better|pg|| nt|sommer: godt afkast!|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|arno11: but he´s not down yet|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c3|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|sommer: @H og @D tilbage ville holde den i 8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|nt|sommer: overstik nu, men 7 imp tilbage til England|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|nt|arno11: probably -2 now|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|joest: that jack is ominous|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h2|nt|joest: the die was cast once the free 2@h bid was made. No way could Aarmot lethis partner out below game|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|sA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SA764HK2DQT865C93,S82HQ95DJ9742CAK8,SKQJ9H873DAK3CJT7,ST53HAJT64DCQ6542|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|mariner1: can EW handle 4@h ?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|an|4!S|mb|2C!|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|othered1: i think 4@H makes, ,aybe on dummy reversal type position|pg|| nt|mariner1: 2@c here is a good @h raise|pg|| nt|rosaline: Just like previous years, there is an E-buletin with nice articles on the website! Take a look! http://www.hetwittehuisbridge.nl/WhiteHouseTournament-2008/index.html|pg|| pc|c2|nt|lebridgeur: should be down a way or another even if Ew do not find the @d ruff|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|nt|mariner1: hi Rosaline, any pictures this year?|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|othered1: They'll find the @D ruff, to beat it quickly|pg|| pc|d2|nt|othered1: will beat it 2 now|pg|| nt|mariner1: I believe we had camera last year?|pg|| nt|othered1: 8 imps to France, it looks like|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| mc|8|nt|othered1: There have been pretty many imps in play in 10 comparisons so far|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SA764HK2DQT865C93,S82HQ95DJ9742CAK8,SKQJ9H873DAK3CJT7,ST53HAJT64DCQ6542|sv|b|nt|sommer: ..nå - overstikket smuttede|pg|| nt|sommer: denne kan være ubehagelig for NS|pg|| nt|sommer: ..at melde|pg|| nt|babydolldk: hvad åbner man med?|pg|| nt|sommer: 1@H ..men heldigvis holder E meldingerne åbne:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|sommer: 4 tabers hånd, men dårlig farve...|pg|| mb|1H|nt|snorre: Først skal den meldes, så skal den spilles hjem også... 9 stikk er vel ikke rett etter nesa...|pg|| mb|1S|nt|babydolldk: jeg vælger også 1@H|pg|| nt|sommer: pas??|pg|| nt|sommer: undooo!!!|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|nt|babydolldk: der er lidt arbejde for at få 9|pg|| nt|sommer: jo, jeg tror, det går af sig selv..selv uden mulighed for @Cknibning|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|sommer: @S til A, @CAK10, @S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|sommer: nå, lad os se.. om han kan/vil finde et overstik|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| nt|snorre: Nå vest kommer inn i kløver, beiter han jo direkte med hjerter i vri...|pg|| pc|h5|nt|snorre: hvis 3NT selvsagt|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|nt|sommer: ja|pg|| nt|babydolldk: ja, men det er svært|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|sommer: jeg tror på @S returnering|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d5|pg|| nt|sommer: ...men Justin har spillet før!!|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|sommer: sådan|pg|| pc|hK|nt|snorre: :)|pg|| nt|babydolldk: :)|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|sommer: og endnu et 7'er sving:)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SKT86HT8632D32C73,S7432HAQJDAT7CA95,SAQ5H54DQ85CQ8642,SJ9HK97DKJ964CKJT|sv|o|nt|lebridgeur: shaky hands and sometimes shaky bidding too|pg|| nt|mariner1: h'mmm 3N makes if they hunt the Q's right|pg|| nt|othered1: 1N-3N? Normal if you think west is worth strong NT|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|jallerton: another chance of a big swing here|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: West should bring this contract home|pg|| nt|othered1: What are NS's leads against NT?|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Modalfa (NL) v USA (Zia) and Germany v Orange White (NL) in about 40 minutes. Last matches from Amsterdam today|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|vugraphv2: sry I dont know|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|mariner1: well everyone's grandmother makes this :)|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|mariner1: W forgot to phone home|pg|| nt|jallerton: thinks @s switch will be harder to find from N|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: will North fing the llling switch ?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jallerton: yes|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: well done|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sT|nt|othered1: Ignoring psychological considerations, if north had led a 4th best 2, playing him for Q is with the odds. |pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|nt|othered1: for @DQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SKT86HT8632D32C73,S7432HAQJDAT7CA95,SAQ5H54DQ85CQ8642,SJ9HK97DKJ964CKJT|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|cT|nt|sommer: en pind til Island på spil bare i dette spil|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|nt|snorre: Da ble det vel 15-15 eller er 3 pinder nok til 16-14 ?|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|snorre: Vi er tilbake med neste kamp rett etter denne... |pg|| nt|sommer: tror det i 10 spils kampe|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Ja|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Og vi er lidt forsinkede. Næste kamp skulle begynde 13.25|pg|| nt|Walddk7: 12.25 lokal tid|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Island er altid på GMT. En af to nationer|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Walddk7: Den anden er Marokko|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Tak for nu, vi er snart tilbage|pg|| nt|sommer: tak|pg|| nt|babydolldk: tak|pg|| nt|babydolldk: spilstop eller? 11 eller 12 stik? og gør det nogen forskel?|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SQ94HJ5DJ43CJ9854,SAJT7HQT4DT975CA7,SK86532HA7DQ86CT6,SHK98632DAK2CKQ32|sv|e|mb|2S|an|6!S 8-11|mb|3H|nt|lebridgeur: a slam difficult to bid and which needs to find the Jack of @h on principle|pg|| nt|jallerton: another slam making om playng for 2-2 trumps|pg|| nt|mariner1: N knew that W hooked into him for a reason....... see 5 @d in dummy|pg|| mb|3N|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: very tough to bid this over S's comic 3N|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: admire the psyche by South !|pg|| nt|jallerton: 3NT stole the cue bid as well|pg|| nt|othered1: bidding again gives EW a fielder's choice|pg|| mb|p|nt|jallerton: surely he won't bid now|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|hT|mc|12|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SQ94HJ5DJ43CJ9854,SAJT7HQT4DT975CA7,SK86532HA7DQ86CT6,SHK98632DAK2CKQ32|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|c3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S5HQJT86DT92CKT87,SKQT843HK5DJ5C632,SJ97HA9742D84CJ94,SA62H3DAKQ763CAQ5|sv|b|nt|vugraphv2: last board... thx for watching all|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: a more easy slam to bid there|pg|| nt|jallerton: http://www.hetwittehuisbridge.nl/WhiteHouseTournament-2008/index.html for scores|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|jallerton: kibs asking why W didn't double 3NT. Good question!|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|mariner1: yes is a good question|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|mariner1: nice slam since it makes|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lebridgeur: asking for the Queen of @s|pg|| pc|hA|nt|othered1: Nice slam regardless opponents distribution|pg|| nt|mariner1: would take some bad breaks to beat this|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|nt|jallerton: At pairs, W should correct to 6NT |pg|| pc|s7|pg|| mc|12|nt|lebridgeur: so that is all for the moment enjoy next session in short while Bye all|pg|| nt|othered1: Thanks everyone and bye for now.|pg|| nt|jallerton: If E hasn't got the NT in first|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: next session in 35 min|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: 25 min sorry|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: bye|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S5HQJT86DT92CKT87,SKQT843HK5DJ5C632,SJ97HA9742D84CJ94,SA62H3DAKQ763CAQ5|sv|b|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SA6H87DK985CAKQ84,SKJT85HA53DT62CJ9,SQ943HQT6DJ74C653,S72HKJ942DAQ3CT72|sv|o|nt|lebridgeur: partial score in @h for EW|pg|| nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: hey all welcome back!|pg|| nt|jallerton: may not get in the bidding if S opens 1NT|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: Hi Ed|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mariner1: hey Ed|pg|| mb|1N|nt|lebridgeur: difficult bid for hervé Mouiel|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|lebridgeur: I think they decidede to play 2@h forcing in this situation so nothing else than 1 NT avaliable|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|jallerton: Yes, 1NT should not guarantee a stop for this reason|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| nt|mariner1: N could have stretched here and bid 1N, don't really blame him reasonable pass|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s5|nt|lebridgeur: South has an easy task for the first 5 tricks will more difficult at trick 6|pg|| pc|s4|nt|mariner1: E can throw 1@s|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|c8|nt|lebridgeur: meanwhile Est must find two dsicards|pg|| pc|h3|nt|mariner1: underleading that @s looks attractive,,, or a no so good @h|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s2|pg|| nt|mariner1: and does|pg|| nt|vugraphv2: sry but hard to see the cards from east|pg|| nt|mariner1: np doing a bang up job|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: best is @s and @s hand hope declarer goes wrong|pg|| nt|mariner1: he might be thinking of a @h to lock out dummy|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|mariner1: and sure enough he was|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| nt|mariner1: of course it was right into the jaws|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s9|nt|lebridgeur: K of @s compulsory|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SA6H87DK985CAKQ84,SKJT85HA53DT62CJ9,SQ943HQT6DJ74C653,S72HKJ942DAQ3CT72|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d8|pc|s8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SK2HK852DK6CKQ962,SJT9HQDQJ75432C85,SQ73HAJT93DTCAT74,SA8654H764DA98CJ3|sv|n|nt|mariner1: btw passing 1@s was allowed too|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: game in @h or @c for NS|pg|| nt|mariner1: making 5 in fact|pg|| nt|mariner1: or 6 even|pg|| nt|othered1: Do you act on north's hand over 3@D?|pg|| nt|mariner1: yes|pg|| nt|jallerton: I would double 3@d|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: you have to in @c Rob for game!|pg|| nt|mariner1: I like the shape|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: I'd bid @H|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|mariner1: well W makes it easy|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: I doubt alain levy opens 3@d first seat not his style|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lebridgeur: good support for parner now|pg|| nt|mariner1: everybody bidding @s|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mariner1: W has 4@s call I think vs VUL O's|pg|| nt|lebridgeur: praticaol conclusion from Noregian player with no Ace|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|nt|lebridgeur: 12 tricks now!|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| nt|mariner1: and lots of them now|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SK2HK852DK6CKQ962,SJT9HQDQJ75432C85,SQ73HAJT93DTCAT74,SA8654H764DA98CJ3|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3D|mb|4C|mb|4D|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|11|pg||