vg|2008 Cavendish Teams,Match 2,I,10,18,Welland,0,Zimmerman,0| rs|3NN+1,3NN=,4SW-1,4SE=,3SN-2,2SS-1,4HW=,3NE-1,7DW=,6DE+1,3NN-1,4SS-1,3NW-3,3DE+1,3NE+2,7CE=,4HN=,4HN+1| pn|Welland,Mouiel,Meckstroth,Levy,helgemo,Nystrom,Helness,Brink|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAT42HKT32D3CQ982,S976HAJ64D654CJ73,SKQJHQ5DAKT982CK4,S853H987DQJ7CAT65|sv|b|nt|atlantajon: of his own making ...not acting over 2@d|pg|| nt|othered1: Somehow being given a free run from 2@H on should have let them investigate more efficiently. Or maybe you need to spend more time on continuations after your very definitive ...|pg|| nt|othered1: leaping Micheals call.|pg|| nt|petergill: This Round 9 match is the most vital clash of the 2008 Camrose|pg|| nt|petergill: A NS slam to begin. |pg|| nt|granguru: hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Hello Cornelia and Jon. Good luck!|pg|| nt|Walddk4: John I mean|pg|| nt|granguru: tks Roland..same to u|pg|| nt|vugraph35: welcome everyone!|pg|| nt|garden2005: ruszyły|pg|| nt|mgchat: bonjour a tous|pg|| nt|mgchat: on gagne 6@s en E/O mais vraiment pas facile a demander|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: Can someone give me a link to the ccs?|pg|| nt|atlantajon: Agreed Ed|pg|| nt|petergill: 6@C looks easy, but 6@H looks hard to make, with the bad heart break.|pg|| nt|petergill: 1NT 14-16|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 6H needs a good view in trumps|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|didev: http://www.bridgeur.be/teams07/|pg|| nt|galadriel: cheers :-)|pg|| nt|petergill: This transfer to clubs is be a good way to ensure that hearts is not the final contract. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: 6@C maybe|pg|| nt|vugraph14: a little think from West|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: Hello Roland, and John!|pg|| mb|1H|nt|granguru: HI CHICK|pg|| nt|granguru: EW did well to stay out of the bidding|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph153: 2@d stary albo 22+ BAL|pg|| mb|2N|nt|petergill: I think 3@C is the positive reply, showing a good fit in clubs, but I'm not sure. |pg|| mb|p|mb|3H!|nt|atlantajon: North needs to find the @c lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: @C lead is pretty important here|pg|| nt|atlantajon: much better contract in the closed room....4@s by east....|pg|| mb|3N|nt|atlantajon: -1|pg|| nt|othered1: Would you have taken a slower auction as west? Still would get the @S in the wrong hand.|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I would have bid 2@s over 2@h raise...then you get to 4@s....still from wrong side|pg|| mb|p|nt|mmmakela: normally 2 NT shows pos|pg|| nt|petergill: 5NT was "pick a slam". A good auction. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: easy now|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|granguru: now they need to cash the 2 round aces and 3 trump tricks|pg|| nt|granguru: which looks pretty easy|pg|| nt|granguru: from here|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|nt|didev: open majors by 4 and easts plays 4@s|pg|| nt|atlantajon: or souths opens 1nt with his 15 hcp...then west shows the majors....and east plays a @s contract|pg|| nt|granguru: done|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|dA|nt|petergill: 920, a good start for Ireland. After 8 of 10 matches, England lead on 160 VPs, Ireland 2nd on 141 VPs. Ireland need a good win. |pg|| pc|d7|nt|mmmakela: H 10 the vital card|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|d5|pg|| nt|Gerben42: good morning all|pg|| pc|dT|nt|petergill: This is the second half of the Round 9 match. |pg|| pc|dQ|nt|didev: what happened with the @c lead?|pg|| nt|othered1: nice @H pips to have in dummy|pg|| nt|galadriel: How well do you know the teams Dirk?|pg|| nt|galadriel: Would BCOB be the fancied team?|pg|| nt|stevedr: yes|pg|| pc|h3|nt|Gerben42: welcome to the Round Robin match between Germany 1 and England|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|didev: i played them the last 2 years|pg|| nt|didev: but it was my last year:(|pg|| nt|didev: BCOB won the final the last 5 or 6 years|pg|| nt|galadriel: Ah, so they are very experienced|pg|| nt|didev: Amsel is new on the team|pg|| nt|Gerben42: should go down after NS have been pushed to the 3-level|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|nt|petergill: In Round 10, Ireland play Northern Ireland who are coming last, whereas England have a slightly tougher draw in CBAI, Ireland's 2nd team (the host country has two teams to prevent ...|pg|| nt|petergill: a bye). |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|didev: and Cornelis and Dedonder were new last year|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAT42HKT32D3CQ982,S976HAJ64D654CJ73,SKQJHQ5DAKT982CK4,S853H987DQJ7CAT65|sv|b|nt|flash: welcome (back), all... was everyone here for the first match? or do we have a lot of newcomers??|pg|| nt|flash: welcome to Mildred Breed|pg|| nt|mildredb: howdy, everyone :)|pg|| nt|flash: from the scoreboard, we'll see Christal's other half this match :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: nobody's talking to us :(|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|flash: the names will be switched to reflect the current match when our operator gets a chance|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|flash: we're starting the tournament with the John Roberts Teams|pg|| nt|flash: this is an invitational event, with 18 teams competing; the entry fee is a modest $US 10,000 per team|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|flash: Jan Martel at the keyboard, i believe :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphcv2: God morning all and apologies for a tardy start|pg|| pc|h8|nt|flash: the details of the prize pool and how it will be apportioned will be posted on the web site as they become available|pg|| nt|flash: the web site for the tournament is www.cavendishinvitational.com|pg|| nt|mildredb: Grue gets off to a good lead for the defense|pg|| nt|flash: 9-board matches|pg|| nt|mildredb: right, east - not Grue - :)|pg|| nt|flash: Welland is Welland-Meckstroth; Brink-Drijver|pg|| nt|poohbear: @H lead best|pg|| nt|flash: the young Dutch pair won a bronze medal in last year's Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|tsadek: leading 8@H will expose East-West ,Declarer will know the Postion|pg|| nt|flash: Zimmerman-Multon; Levy-Mouiel; Bessis-Bessis|pg|| nt|flash: welcome to Barry Goren and Tarek Sadek|pg|| nt|poohbear: but Hearts block so declarer takes 9 before the defense takes 5|pg|| nt|tsadek: hii all|pg|| nt|poohbear: hi|pg|| nt|mildredb: yes, but is the best lead - may gain them an imp|pg|| nt|tsadek: A987 lead 9@H ,98x@H lead 8@H |pg|| nt|flash: Welland-Meckstroth; Levy-Mouiel in Open Room... so we have Brink-Drijver here... there we go :)|pg|| nt|flash: the scoring is IMPs, converted to Victory Points - for the scale being used, pls check the conditions of contest posted on the web site or today's Daily Bulletin|pg|| nt|poohbear: I had Brink as a teammate in the Transnationals in Paris 2001. He was 20 at the time and already a great player|pg|| nt|flash: screens and bidding boxes are in use; all boards in play have been duplicated across the field|pg|| nt|poohbear: Was beating the rubber bridge games in London at that time|pg|| mc|9|nt|mildredb: an imp to Welland|pg|| nt|poohbear: We are regresssing?:)|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SHAKJ987DKJ2C9654,SQT62HQT6DQT53CAK,S98543H54D84CQT72,SAKJ7H32DA976CJ83|sv|o|nt|didev: championship|pg|| nt|didev: final of trial|pg|| nt|galadriel: Ok thx :-)|pg|| nt|didev: in a week or 2 weeks|pg|| mb|1H|nt|boltonian2: hi all|pg|| nt|granguru: HI Alex|pg|| mb|d|nt|petergill: 1@C = 11-13 balanced or 17+ any. |pg|| nt|chick: Hello Alex welcome :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|didev: BCOB also favourite for trial for Europ champs|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the question is here if EW have the methods to NOT play 3NT|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3H|nt|galadriel: Both sides have a double fit, may see a competitive auction|pg|| nt|didev: Cornelis Amsel were by far first in the butler of the round robin of the championship|pg|| mb|3S|nt|chick: Patterson-Rees play a 14-16 NT |pg|| nt|granguru: so a in-between NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: 1@H = common expert practice to overcall on a strong four card major if the hand is unsuitable for a t/o dbl. |pg|| mb|4S|nt|mmmakela: wow N took a big chance imo|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: tough to beat 1N here|pg|| nt|granguru: probably only a @C could have done it|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: after an initial @H lead, declarer must find @C|pg|| nt|vugraph35: Hallberg told Piekarek, his partner could have 3 @D, but only if he is 4432|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: hmm... he has only 3@D but not 4432|pg|| pc|h5|nt|granguru: with a @H return if declarer ducked|pg|| pc|h2|nt|atlantajon: 590 is this score|pg|| pc|hK|nt|galadriel: Well, S didn't find out about the double fit|pg|| nt|galadriel: Which may have influenced his decision|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|vugraph35: yes...|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|garden2005: mecze kobiece i open rozgrywane są na ośmiu stołach w jednej przestronnej sali|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|mmmakela: ag many 11-13 game is on|pg|| pc|s7|nt|benjy: Good afternoon|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|petergill: 3NT fails by a trick or more, so this looks like a good stop by the Irish pair. |pg|| pc|s2|nt|granguru: The lead of AQJxx is most desirable against 3N but no so much against 1N|pg|| pc|s4|nt|boltonian2: declarer has a lot of options though, which could lead to mistake, discards might be difficult|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Gerben42: Piekarek did not play the smallest @C, that might be a "Smith echo", don't return @H|pg|| nt|garden2005: rozgrywane będą mecze 16to rozdaniowe przeliczane na VP na obu stołach|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|atlantajon: looks like 2 rounds of spades then @c's is the only play|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but overtaking @HJ was telling also|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|nt|petergill: Hi Ben |pg|| nt|granguru: because you need 7 tricks to defeat the contract (vs only 5 in 3NT)|pg|| nt|chick: bad move, he needed the diamond trick|pg|| pc|d3|nt|mmmakela: hi Ben|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|boltonian2: now he has pitched a diamond from dummy it should be fairly straight forward|pg|| pc|c4|nt|petergill: 1@S was alerted because it was not forcing. Yes, North took a calculated risk, and has survived. |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|sQ|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***** ENGLAND 172, IRELAND 159, WALES 145, SCOTLAND 126, CBAI 113, N-IRELAND 82 ***** INDIV MATCHES **** ENG 12 18 IRL **** SCO 19 11 N-IRL ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** CBAI 15 15 WAL***|pg|| nt|boltonian2: @S switch would have put this off|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| nt|petergill: Glyn Liggins correctly does not overruff. |pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s5|nt|chick: bet he wishes now he'd kept that long diamond|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|nt|boltonian2: still is of course|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SHAKJ987DKJ2C9654,SQT62HQT6DQT53CAK,S98543H54D84CQT72,SAKJ7H32DA976CJ83|sv|o|nt|flash: et m. henri schweitzer :)|pg|| nt|ritong: hi there|pg|| nt|flash: Steve Robinson has also joined us :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: oh:)|pg|| nt|flash: we saw this pair in action in Amsterdam a year ago February - and they impressed us immensely|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|mildredb: greetings everyone :)|pg|| nt|flash: we're catching up a bit on getting microphones turned on|pg|| nt|robinswr: hi|pg|| nt|flash: here we go|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|poohbear: dbl may not be to everyones taste|pg|| mb|3H|nt|robinswr: bramley passell must be playing Precision|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Hi all from a warm (very) and sunny Las Vegas|pg|| nt|poohbear: but will get them to 4@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: or 3H dbled?|pg|| nt|flash: heartily endorsed by Bart Bramley :) who would also X with 4 cards in the @H suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: and psyching some|pg|| mb|3S|nt|robinswr: never seen them play together before|pg|| nt|flash: this match-up, as well as being interesting demonstrates a fairly usual occurrence in the Cavendish - great players playing out of partnership|pg|| nt|ritong: hey david!|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: And if you are a believer in partnership is everything then you knwo who to buy|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Bonjour Henri|pg|| nt|robinswr: not only are they a new partnership, they're playing a system that neither of them is used to|pg|| nt|flash: our operator is David Stern - who left the early Winter weather of the antipodes to attend the tournament|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: looks like a pretty 4@s NS, buried with EW activity|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Winter is stil pretty good in Sydney|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: And hey who wouldnt come to Vegas for this|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: again, for the teams, the prize pool is derived from the entry fees only; no auction|pg|| nt|robinswr: team game is a lot less random then the pairs|pg|| nt|ritong: however, things are unpleasant and 4@s might go down|pg|| mb|p|pc|hA|nt|flash: South looked for a trump to lead, but couldn't find one...|pg|| pc|h6|nt|flash: the suit symbol only works in Bridge World...|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| nt|tsadek: 4@S good contract spade 5-0 unlucky fro E-W|pg|| nt|poohbear: this doesnt look like it can make. The defense has 3 red tricks and a long trump|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|flash: (as Barry Crane used to suggest, if you're dealt an AK in a suit, you have no problem on opening lead...)|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|tsadek: that's better , he will not ruff|pg|| nt|flash: may well not have happened...|pg|| nt|poohbear: @d pitch seems more reasonable|pg|| mc|10|nt|robinswr: 4spades can lose 4 tricks one in each suit|pg|| nt|tsadek: wowo now he can make|pg|| nt|flash: hmmm... needed to pitch there?|pg|| nt|flash: this compresses the defensive tricks??|pg|| nt|tsadek: what a ruff by Multon|pg|| nt|poohbear: ouch|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SAJ742H9854D5CJ98,ST98H632D32CT7632,SKQ5HQJ7DA9876CQ5,S63HAKTDKQJT4CAK4|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|14-16|nt|petergill: 1@S 10-16, 5+ spades|pg|| nt|garden2005: wynik liczony będzie łącznie: oddzielnie dla open i oddzielnie dla kobiet|pg|| nt|garden2005: suma jednego meczu to 50VP:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|petergill: 1NT 6-12 semi-forcing|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|granguru: EW could have made 2@D most probably..but never entered|pg|| mb|p|nt|boltonian2: this 1NT looks even less likely to make|pg|| mb|3D|nt|petergill: 2@S looks touch and go. Will probably make, but we will see. |pg|| nt|benjy: i don't think it can make with accurate defense|pg|| mb|3H|nt|vugraph35: N/S are leading 2./4.|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph35: small from a double|pg|| mb|3S|nt|atlantajon: a few more imps for E/W|pg|| nt|didev: some imps for Uccle|pg|| nt|mmmakela: EW has a shot at 3@C so 2@S made good|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: Oh well EW going to go plus|pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: Crouch will need to play ace and another @D at somepoint to defeat this|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: The club attack is best. The defence needs to shorten South to three trumps before the 13th heart is set up. |pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|nt|granguru: almost impossible|pg|| nt|Gerben42: NS can make 2@S but it is not clear if anyone should bid again, both have 3@H|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| nt|galadriel: 1NT an interesting choice by S|pg|| nt|granguru: nice if -1|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|petergill: Sorry, you are all right - a diamond attack at some time does better. |pg|| pc|s4|nt|granguru: a good result against 2@D +90|pg|| nt|chick: he'll be lucky (or good) if he can get 5 tricks|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d4|nt|galadriel: I suppose it was natural?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| nt|galadriel: Could he have been suggesting the minors after the redouble?|pg|| pc|h4|nt|atlantajon: might have been|pg|| nt|mgchat: 4points pour Vinay|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h5|nt|petergill: Now South can make by ruffing with @SJ in dummy |pg|| pc|h3|nt|petergill: ruff hi or low, both OK ... 8 tricks|pg|| nt|benjy: as long as he doesn't try and draw trumps, which would be wrong in anycase|pg|| nt|petergill: as long as he chooses to ruff with @SJ in dummy. The alternate line of playing for 3-3 trumps fails. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: sry 2@S is -1|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|sJ|nt|petergill: Claim now. |pg|| pc|h6|nt|atlantajon: hooking @h?|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQ86432HJ65D3CAJ5,SJ95HK432DK962CQ2,ST7H97DAJT85CT763,SAKHAQT8DQ74CK984|sv|b|nt|boltonian2: this could be interesting|pg|| nt|boltonian2: NS can make 5@H EW, will struggle in @S|pg|| nt|Gerben42: @S8 in the way|pg|| nt|mgchat: et meme 6|pg|| mb|p|nt|didev: well stopped in 5 in the closed|pg|| nt|benjy: 1Nt - 14-16 in this position|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|granguru: NS can make 6@H guessing @D right|pg|| nt|boltonian2: if N overcalls 1@H, which seems normal, S will not stop short of 5@H|pg|| nt|chick: K-R 1C is 10+ but maybe only 2 clubs|pg|| nt|boltonian2: 2 A's?|pg|| nt|granguru: ooops sorry|pg|| nt|boltonian2: 4@C from patterson?|pg|| nt|chick: can make 12 tricks right after the oops take their 2 :)|pg|| nt|granguru: everything said was to make 5@H not 6|pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the 2@S might push NS to a seemingly hopeless 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: north would do very well to lead a @H|pg|| mb|2C|nt|galadriel: Yep..good old RKCB|pg|| nt|benjy: but a @S is normal|pg|| nt|granguru: good chick|pg|| nt|chick: hehe :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: this wont impress N overly greatly|pg|| nt|chick: been there done that :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: I imagine will just bid 4@H, such good clubs don't bode well, although opposite a singleton might not be too bad|pg|| nt|granguru: I said it just to see how many kibitzer are awake hearing us...|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Walddk4: http://www.cbai.ie/camrose/standings.html for standings before the last round|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|benjy: he can make this if he guesses the @C suit|pg|| nt|benjy: looks like a pure guess to me|pg|| nt|mmmakela: won't guess it is my bet|pg|| nt|petergill: @S2 = 4th best - so North lacks a five card suit - so North might have some club length, so North more likely to have @CQ - perhaps? Perhaps not?|pg|| nt|benjy: North looks like he is 4333 or two 4 card suits, assuming they are playing 4th highest|pg|| nt|benjy: but that makes no difference to the odds|pg|| nt|petergill: 1NT 14-16 in 1st and 2nd seat. |pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: 3@C = better than Lebensohl 2NT|pg|| mb|4H|nt|Gerben42: good stop by N|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: so S more likely to have 4c clubs and the Q|pg|| mb|p|nt|othered1: can anyone decode this?|pg|| nt|petergill: I just printed out Peter Crouch and Glyn Liggins Convention Card - all 12 pages of it!|pg|| nt|granguru: EW abandoned the fight early|pg|| nt|chick: low diamond?|pg|| nt|granguru: probably it will not work after W openend the hand|pg|| pc|sT|nt|granguru: lets see|pg|| nt|vugraph14: he heard u :-)|pg|| nt|granguru: At least S is thinking...|pg|| pc|sA|nt|atlantajon: 2@c is a game frocing relay asking for more info...I think 2@h is good hand with @h shortness|pg|| nt|othered1: It's always nice to know what information is available to the players to see how they deal with it (and if system provides room they need to make accurate decisions)|pg|| nt|atlantajon: after that I think we have continued relay asks....|pg|| nt|stevedr: probably 4c-4s all pass|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|atlantajon: that would end it Steve|pg|| nt|mgchat: exagerée l'enchere de 4@h, surtout sur la redemande de 2@d|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|atlantajon: 3@c..control of clubs...3@s first round....4@c re-ask.....4@d first and second|pg|| pc|d2|nt|benjy: i know it all Peter so you don't need it|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|ybob: Hi Y´all :)|pg|| nt|didev: hi Rob|pg|| nt|galadriel: Hmmm, now they can't check up on keycards|pg|| nt|atlantajon: hola roberto|pg|| nt|galadriel: Hello :-)|pg|| nt|othered1: 5@C is natural?|pg|| nt|atlantajon: must be|pg|| nt|othered1: odd, if south has been the relayer|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I agree|pg|| nt|atlantajon: pass or XX would be the responces over 4@hX...pass confirms stiff...XX shows void|pg|| nt|ybob: is 2@H any min hand without 4@H ?|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|petergill: South has to be very careful NOT to ask for a diamond switch - tricky!|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|atlantajon: good choice|pg|| nt|othered1: Looks like south made the right decision. I wonder what were the key considerations|pg|| nt|atlantajon: get out of an auction that has gone astray...as soon as you are in a playable place|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I think the response to 4@hX threw him|pg|| nt|ybob: 4@H X ; pass no control , bid = 2ş control , XX first control|pg|| nt|atlantajon: yes|pg|| nt|othered1: How do you know a relay auction has gone astray, unless partner has made an impossible bid.|pg|| nt|stevedr: lol|pg|| nt|atlantajon: but I think that he already knew about the stiff...as I think 2@h showed Non-min with heart shortness|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I think he knew partner had made the impossible bid with 5@c|pg|| nt|atlantajon: choices, if the stiff is known, are pass showing stiff....XX showing void|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: 2@H was @S and a minor 3@S was short @H 4@D was min or exactly singl @H 5@C nat|pg|| nt|othered1: Thank you!|pg|| nt|atlantajon: thanks|pg|| nt|didev: must leave- good evening all|pg|| nt|atlantajon: you are great frederic :)|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: West had in the same problem|pg|| nt|granguru: Fortunatelly I didnt bet that Coke|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| nt|Gerben42: declarer needed to play @S first to break EW communications|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Gerben42: still not easy to guess @D|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|nt|benjy: down 1|pg|| pc|h4|nt|petergill: @H2 was encouraging. even = encouraging is how NS play their first discard. |pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|mmmakela: good def|pg|| nt|petergill: Many Souths would wrongly have asked for a diamond switch. John Carroll did well to work out that a heart switch will always beat 1NT, whereas a diamond switch might not. |pg|| nt|petergill: Of such things are winners made, at bridge. |pg|| nt|benjy: well, if he had pitched a @C then wouldn't south had switched to a @H?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|vugraph35: W is thinking|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|nt|benjy: suggesting equalish holdings in the reds?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|nt|benjy: north rather|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|mgchat: encore un coup cher|pg|| pc|h3|mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQJ9HQT8764DJ9CT5,S3HAK92DAQT73CA84,ST8764H5D64C97632,SAK52HJ3DK852CKQJ|sv|o|nt|granguru: S thought but N was the declarer!|pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: surprised he didnt get that right, but made little difference|pg|| nt|Gerben42: Smirnov had to decide if the @DJ was from QJ or from AJ|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|hans werge: La donne 4 etait exactement mon gout - bravo á Nord...!|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|petergill: Since South can calculate that a heart switch will ALWAYS defeat 1NT, even if it gives declarer a cheap trick with @HK, South should take charge and demand the heart switch. Good ...|pg|| nt|petergill: defence. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: E must find a bid now|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|galadriel: Probably get a @C lead and only make 10|pg|| nt|atlantajon: yep|pg|| nt|ybob: 1@D = 11/15 ?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: seems to me if it's from AJ, why not play small?|pg|| nt|hans werge: 500 déja - pour un contre sans raison de 2 @h|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: @DT to Q, @H return and dummy is endplayed|pg|| nt|garden2005: dwa równolegle rozgrywane mecze, wynik który widać aktualnie w impach pochodzi tylko z jednego meczu (transmitowanego)|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|stevedr: y|pg|| nt|atlantajon: must be..|pg|| nt|othered1: a transfer bid at the 4-level got north to 4@H in the other room, avoiding the @C lead|pg|| nt|galadriel: UCCLE need a few bigger swings though|pg|| nt|hans werge: Contre 2 @h = etablir un palier extra pour les adversaires|pg|| mb|4D|nt|mmmakela: saved by S|pg|| nt|garden2005: impy z obu meczów po każdych 16tu rozdaniach zostaną przeliczone na VP ... i zsumowane|pg|| mb|p|nt|atlantajon: more than a few....:)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|boltonian2: S seems to have taken a view|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|benjy: i cant stand X with the south hand|pg|| nt|ladyda: hum 4@s me semble automatique|pg|| nt|hans werge: Oui - mais trop tard...|pg|| nt|mgchat: oui on ne comprends pas pk|pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: if you are going to bid then surely 1NT is right|pg|| nt|petergill: John Carroll was opposite a Passed Hand, so he might conceivably have passed out 1@S. |pg|| nt|chick: don't see anything in their cc about canape|pg|| mb|5H|nt|petergill: The Irish style is to get in there and bid a lot, do lots of t/o dbl's, not a winner this time....|pg|| nt|mmmakela: pass seems best ag passed pd w 4333|pg|| nt|benjy: and he will pay for his protection as this looks like it will make|pg|| nt|petergill: Would everyone have opened 1@S?|pg|| nt|mmmakela: little to win but lots to lose|pg|| nt|benjy: 100% 1@S|pg|| nt|benjy: do you think you are worth a game force?|pg|| nt|benjy: and you will never get all of your suits across opening 2@C|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 1@S for me too|pg|| nt|garden2005: ktr po 1BA = 10+ bez krótkości w kolorze starszym|pg|| mb|p|mb|5N|nt|petergill: After 3 passes, and thus with a huge chance of being passed out, I would have opened 2@C, because all my suits can then be conveniently bid, i.e 2@C does not destroy our auction. |pg|| nt|mgchat: vu le passe sur le X ca ne peut pas etre autre chose|pg|| mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|6D|nt|ladyda: oula a@h et a@d me semblerait mieux|pg|| mb|p|mb|7D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|benjy: As a spec points out a @C lead would have given declarer a lot of problems|pg|| nt|petergill: 2@C - 2x - 2@S - 2NT or 3x - 3@H - 3x - 4@D - I have bid all my suits, and shown my strength. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: playing 4c majs might consider 2 @C|pg|| mb|p|pc|d4|mc|13|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQJ9HQT8764DJ9CT5,S3HAK92DAQT73CA84,ST8764H5D64C97632,SAK52HJ3DK852CKQJ|sv|o|nt|flash: another push; well done|pg|| nt|ritong: yes, they shared podium in lille 1998, with the regretted pietro bernasconi prepared deals|pg|| nt|ritong: mike won|pg|| nt|mildredb: This scale pays off big just for winning|pg|| nt|tsadek: if and only if the Contract is 3NT'|pg|| mb|1N|nt|flash: 14-1, we think...|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: bd 12 2s -1|pg|| nt|mildredb: do we know what the result was?|pg|| mb|p|nt|flash: there was no 9th trick on a @S lead|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|robinswr: i think they can play each other in the next session if their scores are close|pg|| nt|mildredb: another very light opening|pg|| nt|flash: Bart's style, even playing 'std' is quite aggressive; i'm not sure it's this aggressive though|pg|| nt|flash: although the 10s might swing the decision, no matter what the system|pg|| nt|robinswr: playing behind screens|pg|| mb|2S|nt|robinswr: not sure who's thinking now|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphcv2: Rosenberg|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ritong: was michael, likely|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|Vugraphcv2: indeed|pg|| nt|ritong: since bart has a clearcut bid|pg|| nt|robinswr: not sure why he's thinking with a singleton spade|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: which came out as soon as michael passed|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: 9 count and good 5 card heart suit but probably swayed by the negative double|pg|| nt|ritong: so light opening stole the pot|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: let s see if it steals imps|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: This lead gives Bart 4 spade tricks|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|flash: our apologies for using first names :( starting with North, we've got Michael, Bart, Christal and Mike|pg|| nt|flash: it appears that 3@C is a relay? 7@D looks great - is it biddable?|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: bd 13 was 3nt -1 i will correct movie|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: we do not have to apologize.|pg|| mb|5N|nt|flash: thnx :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|mildredb: ok, thanks :)|pg|| mb|6D|nt|flash: but it sometimes helps if (all) the specs can follow what we're saying :)|pg|| nt|ritong: just following play says who s who|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: But nicer to keep viewers in the loop|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mildredb: bramley has the crucial black T's|pg|| nt|flash: 12 tricks in NT; 13 in @Ds?|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|flash: he wudna opened w/o them... maybe...|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: @S10 just to keep Rosenberg in the dark|pg|| nt|robinswr: the 109 of hearts is important|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAT8642H6DA752CK5,SJ953HAQ85DJ98CAQ,SQHKJ4DKQT64CJ962,SK7HT9732D3CT8743|sv|n|nt|benjy: Yes, it would have defeated the contract|pg|| mb|1S|nt|chick: Starting to see some results now, the 5 imps is from board 1|pg|| mb|p|nt|boltonian2: dont agree with the double I am afraid|pg|| nt|granguru: dont agree with S double|pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 1@C = Polish @C|pg|| mb|1N|an|F1|nt|atlantajon: anyone know about 2@s...I have used it as a minor preempt...but with 4@h's?|pg|| nt|ybob: weak 1 minor ?|pg|| nt|stevedr: 6-4|pg|| nt|atlantajon: if so...it gives up on too many hands that @h's are the better place to place|pg|| nt|granguru: it is usually wrong to ask for suit(s) if you have a one-suited hand|pg|| nt|vugraph153: ciekawe czy ktos z kibicow domysla sie skad wziela sie ta nazwa|pg|| mb|p|nt|diumraid: ***** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES ***** ENGLAND 170, IRELAND 161, WALES 148, SCOTLAND 126, CBAI 110, N-IRELAND 82 ***** INDIV MATCHES **** ENG 10 20 IRL **** SCO 19 11 N-IRL ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** CBAI 12 18 WAL***|pg|| mb|2D|nt|petergill: England misguesed the hearts on Bd 1 in 6NT, so Ireland are getting closer to England's lead in the overall standings. |pg|| nt|granguru: the x and a second round suit normally shows a Gosh hand...|pg|| nt|granguru: from 17 up|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|chick: They play transfer responses over 1C (presumably the same over 1C X?)|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: Thanks diumraid|pg|| nt|boltonian2: think this will end in 3N|pg|| mb|p|nt|atlantajon: this is a good place|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: 3 @C was @S and 3N 6 @D and 4 @H|pg|| nt|atlantajon: you were right Steve|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: was not 6-4 but 6 @D and maybe 4 @H never @S|pg|| mb|p|pc|h3|nt|petergill: For the website, go to www.cbai.ie/camrose - it has the scores up to Round 8. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: another coffee board :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: means: you can get coffee / tea if you like|pg|| nt|vugraph35: no one is drinking coffee/tea at the table :(|pg|| pc|h6|nt|benjy: what is north thinking about? Doubling?|pg|| nt|benjy: that would be madness|pg|| nt|Gerben42: not even Alex? hmm...|pg|| nt|vugraph35: I was wondering too :)|pg|| pc|hA|nt|othered1: This is just an exercise in taking top tricks, likely 9 of them|pg|| nt|mmmakela: at pairs dbl tempting|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|boltonian2: but maybe not|pg|| nt|boltonian2: probably wise|pg|| nt|ladyda: et voilŕ dépasser le palier de 4SA en enchčres fortes apporte souvent des catastrophes|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ybob: the best def but cant defeat |pg|| nt|othered1: with 4-3 @C break, it's easy|pg|| nt|galadriel: Good try by EW|pg|| nt|Gerben42: after the @C ruff, declarer likely plays @HAK so amounts to same thing|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| nt|mgchat: encore faut il qu'ils jouent les reponses en 41/30 a l'atout @c|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|hans werge: 4130 pas necessaire - 11 levées a @s aussi...|pg|| nt|mgchat: oui, |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|benjy: as long as the defense refrain from playing on @D this will not make|pg|| nt|petergill: The slightly lucky 5 imps to Ireland on Bd 2 makes the contest even closer, allowing for England's lead before this match. |pg|| nt|benjy: J of @C must be right here|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ladyda: c'est vrai lŕ ils auraient pu se rattrapper ŕ @s|pg|| nt|ladyda: lol|pg|| pc|dK|nt|benjy: declarer cannot have the Ace on this auction|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| nt|mgchat: Guillaume aurait il passé sur 4@s ?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c7|nt|ladyda: non mais 4sa|pg|| pc|dA|nt|petergill: England would right now be about 6 VP's ahead of Ireland overall, and England have the tougher last round match later today. |pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s5|nt|benjy: no hope for declarer now|pg|| nt|petergill: looks very much like -1. |pg|| pc|dT|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAT8642H6DA752CK5,SJ953HAQ85DJ98CAQ,SQHKJ4DKQT64CJ962,SK7HT9732D3CT8743|sv|n|nt|robinswr: shows what light openings get you|pg|| mb|1S|nt|garden2005: Konrad z Darkiem mnie proszą o grę teraz|pg|| nt|flash: David - from that position, he'd've had to score the @CK... something off earlier?|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Shhhh!! I stuffed u one trick - you dont have to tell everybody|pg|| mb|p|nt|flash: N-S likely to be playing SEF? is this a 2@D call? or will he start with 1NT??|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|flash: sorry; i'll go back to sleep|pg|| nt|flash: oh, goodie... neither of the above...|pg|| mb|2D|nt|Vugraphcv2: :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Nice to see 1500 specs at this time of a work day|pg|| nt|flash: Precision-style (nebulous) 1@D opener; the 2@C rebid shows 9 cards in the minors, either way|pg|| nt|flash: early evening in Europe - few(er) there have to play hooky...|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Tough Rebod for South 2@H too low 3@H a touch over|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mildredb: 7@D bid in open room|pg|| mb|p|nt|flash: it appears as though 2@C was simply a game force, with many possible hand types|pg|| nt|flash: very well done by Levy-Mouiel!! we think that's now a substantial lead for Zimmerman|pg|| nt|flash: 2@D, 3@D and 3@S are natural|pg|| nt|flash: and Multon has a hand worth a think...|pg|| nt|flash: South has shown 10 cards in the pointed suits (specifically 6-4)|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|robinswr: most play that 2hearts does not show extras|pg|| nt|ritong: 3@h gets my vote|pg|| nt|robinswr: would bid 2hearts holding 4 hearts and 11 points|pg|| nt|mildredb: this should not take long for a push|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I come from the old school Steve but I guess most do just bid 2@H to show they are present|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|robinswr: with rosenberg simple hands take longer|pg|| nt|flash: opposite the actual hand, 3NT may be playable; opposite reversed rounded suits, 4@S is better...|pg|| nt|mildredb: this is an ill-fated hand - |pg|| mb|p|nt|robinswr: always working trying to protect against bad breaks|pg|| nt|mildredb: everything is wrong for declarer except the @S7|pg|| nt|mildredb: zimmerman probably deciding to play 4@S or 5@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|flash: down 3 on this lead!!|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|flash: notice in the Open Room, Meckstroth started with 1NT (Welland opens light) and was able to place the contract after a 2@D rebid|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ritong: bling coming soon|pg|| nt|robinswr: on the king of diamonds, Passell played the 2 saying that he wanted clubs|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: They have a little time to catch up here hence the quick play to that one|pg|| nt|mildredb: i think it is right to cover|pg|| nt|flash: has a guess in the trump suit to get out for down 1 now|pg|| pc|sT|nt|flash: ugh - one ot the times NOT to cover an honor with an honor...|pg|| nt|flash: and finds the solution|pg|| nt|mildredb: may not be best on this hand, but |pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Apologies players leaned forward and I missed the play - will provide result at the end|pg|| nt|flash: the key here (which may be virtually impossible to work out) is that South has no quick entry to hand|pg|| mc|8|nt|flash: a @D gives up a ruff; a @C doesn't work and a @H lets partner in for a @D play...|pg|| nt|mildredb: I like the 1NT response to 1@S |pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQ9HJ7543DT3CQT62,SKJ72HAT62DK8CJ95,SA8643HKQ8D52CAK4,ST5H9DAQJ9764C873|sv|e|mb|1C|nt|othered1: UCCCLE has now won imps on 5 consecutive boards, but has not dented the BCOB lead. |pg|| nt|vugraph35: for Round Robin 7 there is an appeal from Switzerland vs. England|pg|| mb|1S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|atlantajon: it hard to come back...losing double digits and only winning single's|pg|| nt|petergill: 1@D = 4+ @D, 10-16 unbalanced |pg|| nt|petergill: 3@D weak |pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: Bold 3@H by Crouch. |pg|| nt|benjy: would you all bid on the west cards?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|atlantajon: there are 6 to take for N/S....|pg|| nt|mmmakela: that's heroic|pg|| pc|h9|nt|galadriel: Looks like a flat board|pg|| nt|mmmakela: never|pg|| nt|chick: pretty frisky with 12 points and a ragged spade suit|pg|| nt|boltonian2: W may pass, N will be very happy|pg|| nt|vugraph35: England can lose or win some IMPs|pg|| nt|vugraph35: our next match will start at 13:30|pg|| nt|vugraph35: who will play will be a little surprise :)|pg|| pc|h3|nt|Gerben42: good lead, threatens the simple plan of ruffing some @C in dummy|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|nt|galadriel: albeit in different contracts|pg|| nt|atlantajon: unless they try to clear spade suit|pg|| pc|c3|nt|benjy: i think i might pass as my @Ds look like they might be in the wrong place, although 1@D is not natural i think it is very close|pg|| pc|h4|nt|galadriel: maybe not...|pg|| nt|petergill: West is a passed hand, and his partner has 2 diamonds at most, so 3@H cannot really backfire too much, I think. |pg|| nt|petergill: unless partner takes it as fit-showing!!!|pg|| nt|Gerben42: but leading twice towards @DKQ will work also|pg|| nt|vugraph35: E is thinking|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|mmmakela: excactly|pg|| nt|benjy: even if he does, surely 4@H is the call|pg|| pc|cK|nt|atlantajon: this will tell|pg|| nt|boltonian2: maybe not for too long, looks to be 1 off?|pg|| nt|granguru: S is glad to see the @H10 I expect|pg|| nt|boltonian2: 2@Hs, 1@S, @S ruff, @d|pg|| nt|boltonian2: hmm, maybe not|pg|| pc|c7|nt|atlantajon: score it up|pg|| nt|benjy: Pd can always correct|pg|| nt|petergill: 3@H alerted by West as fit-showing, but not thought to be by West, I think. |pg|| nt|benjy: One for the system agreements team|pg|| nt|vugraph8: He thought it was fit showing|pg|| nt|petergill: @SA?????|pg|| nt|petergill: no, not at all. |pg|| nt|vugraph35: for all results have a look on http://www.bonn-nations-cup.bridgeverband-westfalen.de/2008/index.html|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so this is 1st vs 2nd in the group|pg|| nt|Gerben42: only 1 team will play the final from each group|pg|| pc|c2|nt|petergill: West feeling not too good, as his diamonds turn to dust. |pg|| nt|petergill: Reluctant to open up the club suit in case declarer has @CAQ, North switches to his heart. |pg|| nt|petergill: Glyn Liggins is one of England's greatest players. |pg|| nt|benjy: this will surely be another big swing to the Irish|pg|| nt|mmmakela: after @SA he'll swith to clubs|pg|| nt|petergill: England has fielded five pairs so far in the 2008 Camrose. Ireland have used three pairs. |pg|| nt|benjy: I am afraid i have to leave, enjoy the rest of the show everyone (COme on England!)|pg|| nt|petergill: Win @H9, spade to king, then what? That is what Glyn is thinking. But what else can he do?|pg|| nt|petergill: Bye Ben|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|mmmakela: 2 now lavinthal|pg|| nt|chick: has to return @D for his ruff|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|Gerben42: Ireland is well ahead in the other group|pg|| nt|Gerben42: a win for Ireland would be very important for them, since their surprise medal 2 years ago in Warsaw, they have had few good results|pg|| nt|vugraph35: the German Juniors had a good start yesterday, but couldn't save it|pg|| nt|Gerben42: and the next European Championship is soon|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cA|nt|galadriel: At last...a double figure swing|pg|| nt|boltonian2: well, it is off, now|pg|| nt|chick: well, not if decl finesses the club :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: yes, not been Patersons match so far|pg|| pc|c8|nt|galadriel: Should N switch to a top @H?|pg|| nt|galadriel: Maybe not so easy|pg|| nt|ybob: i open N hand 1@H in 3ş with any system|pg|| nt|atlantajon: yes...so do I|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I want a heart lead|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c4|nt|petergill: This Ireland team have done lots of barnstorming finishes - the 2008 Yeh Bros Cup a month ago, the last European Teams Championship in Warsaw, will this be another big Irish ...|pg|| nt|petergill: finish?|pg|| nt|petergill: To ruff or not to ruff?|pg|| nt|diumraid: **** LIVE IN RUNNING SCORES **** ENGLAND 179, IRELAND 179, WALES 168, SCOTLAND 138, CBAI 123, N-IRELAND 100 **** INDIV MATCHES ***** CBAI 18 12 ENG ***** N-IRL 15 15 ...|pg|| nt|diumraid: IRE ***** WAL 15 15 SCOT *****|pg|| pc|d4|nt|garden2005: trudna do rozgrywki końcówka, decydujący moment|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|garden2005: Boguś myśli i podpiera ręką głowę, bawi się przy tym zagranymi już kartami|pg|| nt|vugraph153: wygra|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|petergill: North is worried that declarer surely has @CAQ for the jump to 4@S. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: @H K was a bad play, shd see the situation|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so far 15 average for German Juniors is still very good I think, very strong field|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| nt|granguru: @S8 asked for a @D|pg|| mc|6|nt|petergill: Hence this defence. |pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQ9HJ7543DT3CQT62,SKJ72HAT62DK8CJ95,SA8643HKQ8D52CAK4,ST5H9DAQJ9764C873|sv|e|nt|flash: Closed Room finished :) so we've got some folks coming over here to watch the 'instant replay'|pg|| mb|1C|nt|ritong: ?|pg|| nt|ritong: ok|pg|| nt|flash: down 3 is 5 more IMPs|pg|| mb|1S|mb|3D|nt|Vugraphcv2: Just seeing who was awake|pg|| nt|ritong: bingo:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphcv2: down 1 on bd 15|pg|| nt|flash: sorry - getting cross-eyed already... that one was a push|pg|| nt|flash: thnx :)|pg|| nt|flash: Mouiel took a stab at 3NT on the same auction|pg|| mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|ritong: 8.30 am paris time|pg|| nt|robinswr: a normal auction|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Some of us are morning people others night owls|pg|| nt|ritong: pm*|pg|| nt|flash: we can see that 8 tricks is the limit; playing to make, he went down the extra tricks|pg|| nt|mildredb: in the OR, he ducked 2@Hs and then they cashed the @S & 4 @C for -3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|nt|Vugraphcv2: When I play my partner is not allowed to describe any bid as nrmal only natural|pg|| nt|robinswr: lucky hand that diamonds are 7-2|pg|| pc|sT|nt|Vugraphcv2: I think a crowbar wil be needed to get into Michael Rosenberg's hand|pg|| nt|flash: industrial-strength at that|pg|| nt|ritong: possible, although contract looks unavoidable, and other room(s) reach it too|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Yep only one hight heart which can be ducked|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|nt|flash: headed for 9 IMPs back|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SJ82HKQT3DKJ64C32,SKT65HAJ74D8CJ754,S9743H962D753CT96,SAQH85DAQT92CAKQ8|sv|o|nt|petergill: hence South finds the best play of another club, not a heart. |pg|| nt|boltonian2: even after the @C switch|pg|| nt|boltonian2: hmm, another interesting one|pg|| nt|granguru: EW makes 3@D|pg|| nt|boltonian2: NS dont seem to be able to make much of anything|pg|| nt|vugraph153: w otwartym Holender w tej samej pozycji nie trafil i przebil 8|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: when Irish eyes are smiling ... beware the English |pg|| nt|boltonian2: although maybe they can make 3@S if they read the position right|pg|| nt|boltonian2: was never likely to be played at the 3 level this hand though|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|mmmakela: 4 @S now?|pg|| nt|granguru: 3N can be made if the defense dont cash @Cs immediately |pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|mmmakela: lame|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: 4@S does not make. |pg|| nt|Gerben42: Germany was well ahead of England before the match, but now its getting closer|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 1NT = forcing NT|pg|| mb|3C|nt|petergill: Good stop by the English. |pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|Gerben42: 3@C is in danger with the bad trump break, but maybe he just manages it|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: good stop|pg|| mb|p|nt|garden2005: de Vijs zainteresowny był ale ..odpuścił|pg|| mb|p|nt|petergill: Only three apparent losers, but only 8 or 9 tricks in reality. |pg|| nt|ladyda: qui est opérateur?|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|vugraph153: teraz po kierze -2|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|nt|mmmakela: at least 3 and look at W's opening,dead minimum|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|nt|boltonian2: @S switch is very obvious here unfortuntaely|pg|| nt|garden2005: Muller trzyma D@d|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dQ|nt|garden2005: -mał :)|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|d2|pg|| nt|petergill: At Trick 2, South's @C2 was suit preference for diamonds - neat, eh?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|mmmakela: in the long run 4 @S THE bid|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|Gerben42: this sinks the contract because now a @D can no longer be ruffed|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|mgchat: squeeze sur Ouest @h/@d|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ladyda: oui automatique|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sK|mc|11|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SJ82HKQT3DKJ64C32,SKT65HAJ74D8CJ754,S9743H962D753CT96,SAQH85DAQT92CAKQ8|sv|o|nt|flash: and 10 appear|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|flash: i know, David, why use 3 syllables when 4 will do?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|Vugraphcv2: Auction heading same way as CR|pg|| nt|robinswr: do you pass 2hearts or bid 3diamonds?|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: bid 3@d|pg|| nt|ritong: 3@d is not obvious|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Hate 4-2 fits|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I like additional rolls of the dice|pg|| nt|flash: we still think that Zimmerman's lead is 10 IMPs larger; we'll have to see the results when they're posted on the web|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|nt|ritong: well, bidding 3@d you enter the doubling zone|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|flash: the web site for the tournament is www.cavendishinvitational.com no results posted yet|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Hi David Stern back in the seat taking over from Sue Grue|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: but not today|pg|| nt|flash: depends on whether partner is contrary enough to hold 11 major suit cards?|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Been there so many times in life what is one more and hey why do you think I am sitting at a keyboard and not a card table|pg|| mb|5D|nt|flash: now we'll see whether Cristal can match Bathurst's declarer play...|pg|| mb|p|mb|5S|nt|flash: 6@C very good on this one - and they're on their way...|pg|| mb|p|nt|mildredb: friendly hand - everything breaks - 6@C should make|pg|| nt|flash: hi David - we're hanging in there...|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: West looking very Pensive before bidding|pg|| mb|5N|mb|p|mb|7C|nt|flash: next-to-last board of the match; 3rd match scheduled in about 25 minutes|pg|| nt|mildredb: wow! don't think he can handle all 13|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: This contract will struggle but looks like it may make with careful play and the good breaks|pg|| nt|flash: the 2nd @H can go on the @SK, but are there enough winners?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|Vugraphcv2: Bice lead by South|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: There are 10 top tricks without any ruffs|pg|| nt|mildredb: I'm told it will be easy to take 13 :)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|ritong: needs a @d guess now|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Need to win in hand and lay down @DQ|pg|| nt|mildredb: will christal find the smother play of the @DJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|nt|flash: it looks as though he's got to play it wide open? top tricks, including the @H pitch on the 3rd round of @Ss and then xruff?|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ritong: ole|pg|| pc|s4|nt|mildredb: :)|pg|| nt|robinswr: i'd ruff the ace of spades|pg|| nt|flash: brava!!!|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|mildredb: wd|pg|| nt|robinswr: good play|pg|| nt|flash: last board now; 2nd match likely in about 15 minutes|pg|| nt|ritong: postpenultimate hand, david|pg|| nt|ritong: ok, last:)|pg|| pc|d9|nt|flash: or ruff the @Ds good :)|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|mildredb: also, the @SJ comes down|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|cJ|nt|Vugraphcv2: Spade pitch by north wont help|pg|| nt|mildredb: @SJ doesn't come into play|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg|| mc|13|nt|flash: very well done|pg|| nt|mildredb: well done - wow! just what the Welland team needed |pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SA64HA842DCA97652,S872HK3DQT842C843,SKT5HQT975D976CQT,SQJ93HJ6DAKJ53CKJ|sv|n|nt|ladyda: la main de Nord méritait 4sa non?|pg|| nt|ladyda: (surtout dans le style junior toujours ŕ la recherche du chelem)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2C!|an|Stayman|nt|atlantajon: nothing but pain here for N/S|pg|| nt|petergill: Discipline by the English. No rushes of blood even after the disaster on Bd 7|pg|| nt|mmmakela: N has normally dbl stop in hearts|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2H|nt|atlantajon: or E/w for that matter|pg|| mb|3D|nt|petergill: 20-22|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|atlantajon: looks like lose a total of 300 for UCCLE....-100 other table and -200 here...does anyone see an 8th trick?|pg|| nt|petergill: East's values look too "soft" to try for slam. |pg|| nt|petergill: no aces, no tens, 4333, junk. |pg|| nt|mmmakela: most wd still look if 6@H might be on|pg|| nt|chick: 3N will be very lucky for N, E will likely lead a spade and then W with all the entries can't return them|pg|| mb|p|nt|chick: maybe Rees figured that out :)|pg|| nt|boltonian2: yes this looks lucky on many levels, hearts breaking aswell|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Gerben42: 2@C two-way checkback|pg|| nt|Gerben42: N has invited with 5@H|pg|| pc|h2|nt|galadriel: No..it looks hopeless|pg|| nt|galadriel: With both hands balanced 24 hcp not enough for game|pg|| nt|chick: needs care here, the Q@C is his only entry to the hearts if W holds up|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|nt|petergill: 10 = either J10xx(x) or HJ10x(x)|pg|| pc|c3|nt|galadriel: I can understand them bidding it though|pg|| nt|othered1: There are many different defenses to multi-type openings. EW's here wasn't effective. Others might have gotten EW a plus (on defense)|pg|| nt|vugraphu1: 2 @D show 6 @S or @S and a minor never @H|pg|| nt|atlantajon: I agree.....the system I use...would call for a pass with the west hand...then when it gets back to me @@ 2@s...I think I have a clear pass|pg|| nt|atlantajon: ok...thanks|pg|| pc|cT|nt|granguru: @H|pg|| nt|granguru: oopps|pg|| nt|chick: thanks John @H|pg|| nt|granguru: was private intended|pg|| nt|granguru: now everyone knows|pg|| nt|chick: hehe|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|petergill: Looks like 12 tricks. |pg|| pc|sQ|nt|chick: I appreciate the helpful suggestion :)|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|othered1: Mine would double 2@D on west's hand. but it might not be the best against this particular multi's possibilities, all of which involve @S type hands.|pg|| nt|atlantajon: agreed..|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|granguru: yw|pg|| nt|chick: tough choice for rees ... if he ducks in hopes his pard has another spade, he won't get his spade tricks|pg|| nt|granguru: If he takes ..What should he continue?|pg|| pc|h6|nt|atlantajon: this might get deeper if west doesn't cash out|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|petergill: England are actually ahead, leading Ireland by 19 VPs coming into this match, and by 7 VPs right now, until Bd 7 is scored when it will be closer. |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|garden2005: de Vijs liczy punkty w otwarciu|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SA64HA842DCA97652,S872HK3DQT842C843,SKT5HQT975D976CQT,SQJ93HJ6DAKJ53CKJ|sv|n|nt|robinswr: 9/9 hand|pg|| nt|flash: looks like we're closing between matches (again, the boards are duplicated across the field, so security issues)|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: The next match will start soon after the end of this one so stick with us|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: You are correct we will have to close but I willl leave the table open till that time|pg|| nt|flash: we think the score is virtually even now|pg|| mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|3D|nt|flash: last board; thnx, David, for bailing us out|pg|| nt|mildredb: the site is : www.cavendishinvitational.com|pg|| nt|flash: thnx, Mildred, for helping with the commentary (such as it was)|pg|| nt|flash: re-start in 20 minutes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|Vugraphcv2: or thereaboutsa|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Have to do draw etc.|pg|| nt|flash: we're reasonably convinced that Multon didn't make the (silly) defensive play needed to let 4@S score on board 11|pg|| nt|mildredb: do we still think that the zimmerman team has 10 more imps coming their way from the earlier board, Jim?|pg|| mb|p|nt|robinswr: double in the closed room is why i don't like penalty doubles of notrump|pg|| mb|4H|nt|flash: i know the plan was to use Bridgemates for scoring - assuming that's happened, there will be no delays in getting scores reported and recorded|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Bridgemate I think for pairs - dont know about teams|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|flash: only for the pairs, i'm told...|pg|| nt|ritong: ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|robinswr: are they entering scores?|pg|| pc|dA|nt|flash: this looks quick... |pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I have just borrowed Zimmermans scoresheet and it shows the second board as -420|pg|| nt|flash: i make it 26-25 Zimmerman at this point; again, we'll have to see what's posted on the web|pg|| nt|flash: wow|pg|| nt|mildredb: ok, then our vugraph score is correct|pg|| nt|flash: i take it all back|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Not on VG table|pg|| nt|flash: are there daggers around the result, David?? :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: key here is to set up clubs while drawing just 1 round of trumps. Declarer can afford 2 trump losers|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: I wasnt here so cant say but I am sure there will be some nice French expletives around the scoreup table|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Hard to imagine that this will fail|pg|| nt|poohbear: Meckstroth played a club at this point to the 10|pg|| nt|flash: we'll sanitize them to mon dieu!! and c'est incroyable...|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|flash: the web site for the tournament is www.cavendishinvitational.com - scores will be posted there|pg|| nt|poohbear: your french needs sanitizing!!|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Works for me but always like to enrich my vocabulary|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ritong: probably does not take weeks to adapt bridgemate to imps scoring|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|robinswr: bridgemates were used in verona team games|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s8|nt|mildredb: nice play by rosenberg|pg|| nt|flash: again, we might have some slippage, but would expect to restart around the top of the hour|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|poohbear: I dont like this play by declarer|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Time expired 10 minutes grace|pg|| nt|poohbear: better to continue clubs|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: But it will succeed|pg|| nt|poohbear: yes|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|poohbear: Heart position is irrelevant as long as they arent 4-0|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|h7|nt|flash: so a fast-paced, rather substantial win for Wold...|pg|| nt|flash: thnx to our operator, David Stern, and to the commentators who helped guide us through the set|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: South toying with @HK|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Now toying with @H5|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Now @HK again|pg|| nt|flash: two more matches this session; check your bookmarked BBO Vugraph Schedule web page for local times for 2nd session|pg|| mc|11|nt|poohbear: won an imp though!|pg|| nt|Vugraphcv2: Thanks I will leave the table open till the next round|pg|| nt|flash: thnx, David; thnx, all...|pg|| nt|mildredb: next set in about 10 - 15 minutes|pg|| nt|flash: 3rd and last match of the set coming up|pg|| nt|flash: Welland-Meckstroth and the Dutch youngsters|pg|| nt|flash: for those who have wandered in, we're between matches now|pg|| nt|flash: the table will close briefly before the 3rd match|pg|| nt|flash: the 2nd session is scheduled in 2 1/2 hours|pg|| nt|flash: and we hope to have scores posted on the tournament web site www.cavendishinvitational.com|pg|| nt|flash: we should definitely see them before the 2nd session|pg|| nt|flash: they should be doing the pairing for the 3rd match now; we'd expect to be up and running in about 5 minutes|pg|| pg||