vg|13th NEC CUP Semifinal,Segment 2,I,1,20,MAHAFFEY-NPC,32,THE LATIN,44| rs|3DE-1,3DE-1,4HN=,3DE+1,4HSx-1,4SS-1,2DE+2,2DE+3,4SS=,2SS=,PASS,1NW+1,6HE=,6HW=,6HE-1,6HW=,2HS+1,3NS=,4SN+2,4CE-7,2DW-3,2NS=,4HE-2,3NE-2,5SE-1,6SE-1,4HS+1,6CS=,3SSx-5,2SSx-4,2NW+1,3NW-1,3NS=,3NS+2,3NE+1,3SS-1,3NS+2,3NN+2,3DN-1,3SW-1| pn|Bertheau,G Goded,Nystrom,F Goded,Brenner,Fredin,Frontaura,Fallenius|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAKT865HK93D94C87,SQ97HQJ62D85CKT94,SJ3HAT75DQ76CQJ53,S42H84DAKJT32CA62|sv|o|nt|roswolf: perhaps a feisty board to start|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: will north protect?|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3D|nt|xenya: he should|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to a member of the Swedish Open team in Shanghai: Per-Ola Cullin|pg|| nt|pocken: morning everyone|pg|| pc|sA|nt|roswolf: east has bid a lot on a modest hand methinks|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Need to play clubs here to beat the contract|pg|| nt|xenya: well it's not exactly modest -- he has 6 tricks in his hand, and partner has shown some values |pg|| nt|Walddk2: In the other semi-final Israel are 42 IMPs ahead against YOI Returns from Japan|pg|| nt|roswolf: okay save his pards values dont look so good now!:)|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|nt|xenya: agreed:) |pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|bjacobs: Perhaps ruff queen?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://tinyurl.com/2l9kvo for NS's convention card|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|bjacobs: It protects partner's possible @DJx|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|mc|8|nt|Walddk2: EW father (Federico) and son (Gonzalo)|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAKT865HK93D94C87,SQ97HQJ62D85CKT94,SJ3HAT75DQ76CQJ53,S42H84DAKJT32CA62|sv|o|nt|joest: rehi to all|pg|| nt|vugraph140: we will start with board 7, not this board|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Also welcome to Arno Lindermann from Austria|pg|| nt|arno11: hi everybody|pg|| nt|vugraph140: Players still checking systems|pg|| nt|joest: hi Arno|pg|| nt|joest: I suspect east-west are done with Moysian heart fits for this set|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|unbal,5d unless 4441|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|joest: Zwol amazed not tohear a 2@h rebid|pg|| nt|joest: or 2@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|rosaline: would you consider 3@C forcing?|pg|| mb|p|nt|joest: 3@c must have been forcing although I wouldn't think so|pg|| nt|joest: some pairs play transfers here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|joest: but this doesn't look like it|pg|| nt|rosaline: I dont think that 3@C should be forcing|pg|| nt|rosaline: as I already mentioned, NS are Not a regular partnership|pg|| nt|arno11: a little too high..|pg|| nt|joest: South has a tough problem even in a regular partnership. I don't know how many pairs could unwind a minor two suiter after this start|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|nt|rosaline: Wietske van Zwol is a former Venice cup winner (in 2000 to be precise :))|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|nt|joest: sporting of Jorstad to stay off the double|pg|| nt|arno11: 4@D is the last making spot for NS|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|nt|joest: nice play|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c7|nt|joest: not such a nice play|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|rosaline: lol|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| mc|8|nt|joest: I would think partner played the heart deuce for a reason at trick one|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SJ2HK72DJ97CQJ983,ST653H963DAT653C2,SK974HAQJT8DCKT75,SAQ8H54DKQ842CA64|sv|n|nt|roswolf: action board|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: EW from Spain, NS from Sweden|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d|an|3-card !s support|nt|bjacobs: I'd like to declarer 5@C by North please!|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|roswolf: hard to get there|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: should be trivially off|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Trivially?|pg|| nt|xenya: Trivially?|pg|| pc|dK|nt|roswolf: ok i forgot east not west on lead!:(|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Right, it'|pg|| nt|pocken: but still goes down I think|pg|| nt|bjacobs: it's not trivial, but nor is it trivial for North|pg|| nt|xenya: right|pg|| nt|pocken: short on trumps|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Declarer has the easiest of 9 tricks|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 4 clubs and 5 hearts - it's the 10th that's awkward|pg|| nt|pocken: some kind of reversed dummy maybe, unfortunally the short club hand has 3 hearts :-)|pg|| nt|roswolf: cant see how that is achieved|pg|| pc|d7|nt|xenya: so it is "trivially" after all -- seems that repeated diamond leads beat this |pg|| nt|roswolf: looks -1 naturally if not trivially|pg|| nt|pocken: it is not, but in case clubs had been 2-2 a spade could be played towards jack at trick 2 maybe|pg|| nt|vugraph128: West is wondering....|pg|| nt|bjacobs: West is thinking of overtaking to shove a club through|pg|| nt|bjacobs: But of course, he knows declarer may be void in diamonds|pg|| pc|dA|nt|roswolf: yes that could be a mistake i think|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Our operator in Yokohama is Nobuyuki Hayashi. Welcome back to you|pg|| nt|pocken: so much for our analysis lol|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Israel 65 - Yoi 23 at halftime|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d2|nt|bjacobs: Now West can be endplayed into giving up the 10th trick?|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cK|nt|bjacobs: East I should say|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c8|nt|xenya: that @DJ has suddenly become a big card|pg|| pc|d5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| nt|roswolf: after drawing trumps east is going to be endplayed|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|roswolf: expensive overtake by west|pg|| mc|10|nt|bjacobs: Even if East had kept a club exit, a spade towards the jack kills him|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SJ2HK72DJ97CQJ983,ST653H963DAT653C2,SK974HAQJT8DCKT75,SAQ8H54DKQ842CA64|sv|n|mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|nt|joest: closed room 2NT rolled home -- a contract that first blush appears beatable|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|rosaline: would you also have doubled 2@S?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|joest: I think 2@s is spades + minor|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rosaline: correct|pg|| mb|2H|nt|arno11: 2@S was horrible|pg|| nt|joest: I think 2NT is a standout by West. Why double with a 4=3=3=3 hand, a spade stopper and ahand in the nt range?|pg|| mb|3D|nt|rosaline: it shows exactly 5@Ss and 4+ in a minor|pg|| nt|joest: east-west should be getting good at playing 4-3 heart contracts|pg|| nt|arno11: no matter what it showed :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|nt|rosaline: I´d like to tell you a bit about the set up in this tournament, we (Karen and I) are sitting in a room seperated from the big playing area|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dK|nt|rosaline: we have here 1 table to broadcast on BBO (and we drink many Passion fruit juices)|pg|| nt|rosaline: the closed room of this match is stationed in the main playing area with the other tables|pg|| pc|d9|nt|joest: just to interrupt a brief sec Rosaline, I am surprised north did not return a LOW diamond asking for a club return|pg|| nt|rosaline: I am *running* from this table to the other table to collect the boards and scores from the other room|pg|| nt|joest: wow sounds like you have your hands more than full|pg|| nt|vugraph140: me too Jack|pg|| nt|rosaline: this is not a regular partnership, I dont know what their agreements are|pg|| nt|joest: well you're doing great|pg|| nt|vugraph140: surprised I mean:)|pg|| nt|joest: some pairs do play "upside down" suit preference but that is a very small minority|pg|| nt|arno11: this opening bid produced a plus score for NS, but still...|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d2|nt|lusobrasil: Hi everybody. Sorry for the lateness|pg|| nt|joest: hello rui|pg|| nt|rosaline: still this contract will go down of course|pg|| nt|arno11: if EW only had passed throughout the opening bid would have got what it deserved|pg|| nt|Walddk7: http://psbridge.gotdns.com/bbo/allvug/ for updated vugraph hand records (PDF)|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|arno11: hi|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|vugraph140: hi Rui:)|pg|| nt|joest: I don't know style but I dont like 2@s at unfavorable second seat|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|joest: once one hand has passed the odds have increased (although not true) here that you rate to trap your partner rather than your opponents|pg|| nt|joest: this is not to mention the risk of going for a |pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|nt|arno11: you also have 3 cards in @H and might barr yourself from finding a heart fir|pg|| nt|arno11: fit|pg|| pc|cK|nt|joest: true but when you're playing ahyperactive style overall you're committed to accepting those types of losses|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|d6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQJ732HAQ7654DK8C,SA8HKJ2DQ9CKT8764,SK95HT9DT752CAJ92,ST64H83DAJ643CQ53|sv|e|nt|pocken: he ducked the club twice to make sure he was endplayed properly|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: axe?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: No|pg|| mb|d|nt|bjacobs: No problem|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| nt|pocken: 4Sp makes, so that would be a mistake|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Double is placing a lot of importance on turning 50 into 100|pg|| nt|roswolf: latin tempraments view these things differently|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I have got player profiles for our audience ...|pg|| nt|pocken: of course, you might have to lead the 9 of spades to pin the 8 :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=3436 Fredrik Nyström|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=6030 Peter Bertheau|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=4604 Federico Goded|pg|| nt|bjacobs: It's not clear to me that 4@S makes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=6124 Gonzalo Goded|pg|| nt|bjacobs: What about defence of ace and another trump?|pg|| nt|pocken: good point :-)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: And it's indicated isn't it, should they run to 4@S?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO-TV. Watch both vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Some need Flash Player 9, some don't. ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|pocken: yes, you are right|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: In 20 minutes we will have another two tables up, from Norway|pg|| pc|c6|nt|bjacobs: Well, if The Latin win by 1 imp, we will be lauding this double. Until then ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQJ732HAQ7654DK8C,SA8HKJ2DQ9CKT8764,SK95HT9DT752CAJ92,ST64H83DAJ643CQ53|sv|e|nt|rosaline: i think btw that 2@D with north wouldnt be a weird bidding :)|pg|| nt|joest: absolutely right|pg|| nt|arno11: and also West! http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=3398|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3S|nt|rosaline: many people are afraid to bid ´only´ 2@D with such a ´strong´ hand. But that is not nessecary at all|pg|| nt|joest: hmm|pg|| nt|rosaline: okay now this board|pg|| mb|p|nt|joest: double: the unanimous choice :)|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|joest: I have played a t/o style with some partners called "clubs on your own" :)|pg|| nt|arno11: X rather strange :)|pg|| nt|rosaline: is it? :)|pg|| nt|joest: meaning I promise the majors. You're on your own if you bid clubs. This is perfect!|pg|| mb|p|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|arno11: or her son:)|pg|| nt|arno11: sry|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|joest: this is a good way to play a 5-1 club fit when you have a 5-3 heart fit|pg|| nt|rosaline: we havent seen many makable contracts at this table yet!|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|lusobrasil: blame the dealer...|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|s9|nt|joest: declarer would like to work hearts but is concerned about a trump promotion|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|vugraph140: he?s not afraid:)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|d9|nt|joest: concerned. although can always just shed his spade on a third heart play. that would be a ticket to two down here|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cK|mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S5432HA97DKCAQT93,SQ97HQJ3DAJ52C862,SKTH8654D973CJ754,SAJ86HKT2DQT864CK|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|r|nt|roswolf: strangely cautious auction in the other room|pg|| mb|1H|an|any 4-3-3-3, 10-11|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|an|any 4-3-3-3, 10-11|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Well game makes because of a sequence of miracles|pg|| nt|Walddk2: And even no chance to misguess|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed but you would expect some exploration i think|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: will east float this?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: They did, didn't they? West showed his 10+ and East has a load of rubbish|pg|| nt|pocken: yes, I think the closed room auction is flawless|pg|| nt|xenya: i wonder what all those (re)doubles by W mean|pg|| nt|roswolf: will south pullto his long suit> |pg|| nt|roswolf: perhaps south should shoot it out|pg|| nt|vugraph128: sorry for misinput for the 1@h call. |pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: No problem!|pg|| nt|vugraph128: that is the meaning of the W's double.|pg|| mb|2D|nt|xenya: yes, thank you|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|pocken: well done by Peter|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Well, West's explicit double gives East an easy 2@D bid|pg|| mb|p|pc|s3|nt|roswolf: indeed a push likely|pg|| nt|pocken: not clear at all to bid over 1H, he judged well|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraph128: East claimed as 10 tricks.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 11 tricks, no?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I see, he miscounted|pg|| nt|vugraph128: he said he will lose one spade and one club.|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2S5432HA97DKCAQT93,SQ97HQJ3DAJ52C862,SKTH8654D973CJ754,SAJ86HKT2DQT864CK|sv|b|nt|joest: 3NT was rather high on the north south cards in the closed room|pg|| mb|p|nt|lusobrasil: a couple of late tables, break time probably 20 minutes|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|arno11: they might get to 6@S now|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rosaline: no :)|pg|| nt|joest: 4@s is a massive underbid in my mind|pg|| mb|p|nt|arno11: I think S should at least splinter the N wld maybe still sign off over 4@C |pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sK|nt|joest: and if NOrth wants to operate a bit with 1NT (which I don't like with this hand), he's far too strong. 17 highs and a semi-solid six card suit?|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAJ876HJ84DT62CJ9,ST95H752D974CQ542,SK2HKQ93DAKJ83CT8,SQ43HAT6DQ5CAK763|sv|n|mb|1C!|nt|Walddk2: Must have forgotten @S10 at trick 1|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|4!h + 5m, 16-19|nt|Walddk2: 1@C strong, 1@D negative|pg|| nt|pocken: 2H=16-19 4H longer minor|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|pocken: 2Sp inv w/ 5+Sp|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Does this auction have a brake pedal?|pg|| nt|pocken: this will be passed out I think|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You giving cooking lessons I notice, Per-Ola. What about lessons on that system? :)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: They are lucky that the cards forgive - or maybe South will bid game!|pg|| nt|pocken: hehe, if you tasted my food you wouldnt want any more lessons from me :-)|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pocken: 3Sp is just too agressive |pg|| nt|roswolf: auto destruct|pg|| nt|bjacobs: This might be the luckiest 11 imps they ever pick up|pg|| pc|sT|nt|roswolf: indeed on that lead|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I thought Bill would call it a filthy contract|pg|| nt|bjacobs: It's certainly not a clean contract|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|pocken: nice chatting with you guys, of to play irl-bridge now . have a nice day|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|roswolf: bye|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|nt|Walddk2: Thanks, you too|pg|| nt|xenya: bye|pg|| nt|roswolf: might make 12 here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We lost our expert on the NS system. Bill will take over :)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s7|pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: Lucky man; he can even combine the chances in the red suits|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAJ876HJ84DT62CJ9,ST95H752D974CQ542,SK2HKQ93DAKJ83CT8,SQ43HAT6DQ5CAK763|sv|n|nt|arno11: That´s right but 1NT has the advantage that opps will not easily find a major suit fit |pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1S!|nt|joest: That's fair. You have to decide what risk you want toguard against|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|joest: but when they DO find it, you are now guessing b/c you know that maybe you should be bidding on in diamonds|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|arno11: does not look very thrilling|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk7: Interesting board here. You have just the entries you need to do everything right if you are in slam|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| nt|arno11: flat board now|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|nt|joest: some would jump to 4@s as north. 11 is a high for a hand that bids 3@s under pressure -- even with the queen of diamonds questionable|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|nt|lusobrasil: table 1 van helsing 20 druva 27 13-17|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s6|pc|c5|mc|8|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SQ8643HK762DA87C2,SA2HT985DK64CK965,S7HJ43DQJT2CAQT87,SKJT95HAQD953CJ43|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: passout now?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SQ8643HK762DA87C2,SA2HT985DK64CK965,S7HJ43DQJT2CAQT87,SKJT95HAQD953CJ43|sv|e|nt|arno11: after this round there are 2 more ??|pg|| nt|joest: I believe this is the last board|pg|| nt|lusobrasil: yes|pg|| nt|lusobrasil: yes 2 more rounds|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| nt|joest: was 3@d puppet?|pg|| nt|arno11: interesting if the still will find @Hs|pg|| nt|joest: this would be a critical hand to be using that convention|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|joest: actually Aarmot could make 7 if he was in it|pg|| nt|arno11: I think W just showed @S+@D|pg|| nt|vugraph140: 3@D was not alerted, so don't know|pg|| nt|joest: really? I'd be concerned he just bid a natural nonforcing 4NT|pg|| nt|joest: but I defer to you Arno :)|pg|| nt|vugraph140: haha already told you, Ronny is not concerned easy I think:)|pg|| nt|arno11: difficult for E too see 4NT as RKC for @Hs|pg|| nt|joest: let's put it this way. East is thinking and that can't be good if you're blackwooding|pg|| nt|arno11: at least 6NT is also making|pg|| nt|joest: as is 4NT :)|pg|| nt|vugraph140: haha|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|arno11: 4NT is really looking natural as 4@C is a possible alternative|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h4|nt|joest: confirms all key cards so I suspect we see 6@c next|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|arno11: 5NT: another chance to pass :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|joest: WOW|pg|| pc|d5|nt|lusobrasil: 15 minutes break, no problem|pg|| nt|arno11: looks like a big swing for the norwegians|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|nt|joest: this should tie the match|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dJ|mc|8|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SJT87432HA74D3CJT,SAQ9HTDAQ985CK972,S65H3DKJT72C86543,SKHKQJ98652D64CAQ|sv|b|mb|2S|mb|2N|nt|roswolf: how high will south pre-empt here?|pg|| nt|xenya: good result for EW in the other room|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Might be matched, as West seems to have found a winning bid for this layout|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: sure|pg|| mb|p|pc|s2|nt|roswolf: le punt by east worked this time|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Good lead by South - shooting for a ruff by partner rather than a ruff by him. Because he has @HA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| nt|xenya: after W's 2N, E didn't even bother to check for aces |pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes, Gerber would have been handy|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SJT87432HA74D3CJT,SAQ9HTDAQ985CK972,S65H3DKJT72C86543,SKHKQJ98652D64CAQ|sv|b|nt|joest: while we're waiting can anyone clue us in on the standings of these two teams?|pg|| nt|joest: This is the 10th round of 12 in a swiss teams|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Maybe Rosaline can give us the link to the standings|pg|| nt|rosaline: http://www.lusobridge.com/main/2006_2007Festivais/mad2007results.htm|pg|| nt|vugraph140: 3 and 4 |pg|| nt|rosaline: these are the results|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Thanks Roos|pg|| nt|joest: thanks very much|pg|| nt|rosaline: for pictures and bulletins go to http://www.bridge-madeira.com/Tournament-2007/index.html|pg|| nt|vugraph140: starting now|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Rosaline is multi-tasking: hostess, TD, commentating, etc.|pg|| nt|joest: good luck Rosaline|pg|| mb|2S|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|joest: this is probably a 2@s raise although some would think it courting trouble to raise vulnerable on that junk|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4N|nt|joest: n-s awfully close to alucky 3NT|pg|| nt|arno11: 2@S will be one down losing 2@S, 2@D 1@C and 1@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|joest: yes|pg|| nt|joest: but in bbo I've learned to say "should be" down one :)|pg|| nt|rosaline: this is the third time that team Van Zwol is on vugraph now, and maybe some have already noticed, but they played every match in a different formation|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|joest: good play. NOrth does not rate to have a promotable trump holding (like Jxx) once west cannot rebid 2@s onhis own|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|mc|12|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SQ8753H2DK54CJ863,SA4HAQ63DAT3CQ974,SJT92H94DJ987CKT5,SK6HKJT875DQ62CA2|sv|o|nt|bjacobs: Roland's not paying attention|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I am|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Words fail you?|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: I don't comment on rubbish|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: :)|pg|| mb|3H|an|natural, slam try|mb|p|mb|3S|an|cue|mb|p|nt|roswolf: no just writing out your penalty ticket bill for using the G word|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|roswolf: ah now some science|pg|| nt|bjacobs: No problem with the key cards here - just with the 12 tricks to go with them|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Blame Assessment please?|pg|| pc|s3|nt|Walddk2: You can blame EW in the closed room too|pg|| nt|xenya: system perhaps?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They are also in slam|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Maybe you put it down to Life, but perhaps East, with his flat shape, should have bid 4@H over 4@D, and left further moves to partner|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Spectator note: I had the pleasure of playing a long match against Bill a couple of weeks ago - I regret to say he did, in fact, have G ticked on his convention card :(|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Proudly on my card|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|nt|roswolf: shock horror!!|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s7|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|bjacobs: And I use it on Board 7, just in case, because we play "system on" after we overcall 2NT|pg|| pc|h6|nt|Walddk2: Great, with two small diamonds|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hJ|nt|bjacobs: No worse than just bidding 6@H (not that there was anything wrong with the 6@H bid)|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|xenya: it's not over yet...|pg|| nt|roswolf: bye all going to Norway |pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|bjacobs: He's playing as well as possible, hoping the defenders get it wrong|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|xenya: he could have made it by scooping the @DJ...|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|bjacobs: In fact, did he have it made if he'd run @DQ?|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SQ8753H2DK54CJ863,SA4HAQ63DAT3CQ974,SJT92H94DJ987CKT5,SK6HKJT875DQ62CA2|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|hearts or special hands|nt|joest: Rosaline and Arno, is it your style to bid 1NT here or raise diamonds?|pg|| nt|rosaline: I would like to take a minute to tell about this wonderful tournament in Madeira, a beautiful island of portugal|pg|| mb|p|nt|rosaline: With a total prize money of € 27.500 and a great diversity of nationalities this tournament is taking a unique position on the list of bridge festivals.|pg|| nt|arno11: I wld always raise @D|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|rosaline: first we had a pairs event with 108 pairs|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|nt|rosaline: this was won by Clas Nyberg - Kauko Koistinen from Finland|pg|| nt|rosaline: oh hihi didnt see your question, in teams for sure 2@D|pg|| nt|arno11: 2@H was a nice bid but this contract will suffer from @C ruffs|pg|| mb|4H|nt|joest: Not sure I would lhave chosen 2@h|pg|| nt|arno11: me neither :)|pg|| nt|joest: I think it was Sir Walter Scott who penned the lines "when first we practice to deceive..."|pg|| nt|joest: I don't know if 2NT would be natural and I think responsive double shows both majors|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|joest: 3@c is possible but I don't like that either so in fairnes it's a tough decision|pg|| nt|rosaline: At the closed table are playing for team Valen, Bjorn Sture Valen and Egil Hansen, |pg|| nt|joest: 5@c is a much better game but would require some good guessing, like hooking the ten of spades|pg|| nt|rosaline: For team van Zwol are playing H. Broek and R. Gragt|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6H|nt|arno11: 5@C for sure much better|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|arno11: but he´s not down yet|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|arno11: probably -2 now|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|joest: that jack is ominous|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|joest: the die was cast once the free 2@h bid was made. No way could Aarmot lethis partner out below game|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|h5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s3|pc|hA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d7|pc|hK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|c9|pc|sT|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAQJ5H952DA97CK96,S76432HA8DJ5CJ732,SHQT643DT83CAQT84,SKT98HKJ7DKQ642C5|sv|e|nt|xenya: and the slam was made in the CR|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Looks like they erred on defence at the other table|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|xenya: just like here -- but declarer missed his chance|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|an|hearts|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Looks like they play transfer responses to overcalls?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|xenya: yes -- and 1@S by S had the salutory effect of discouraging N from bidding on|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|d8|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|dT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h9|nt|xenya: but to be fair, NS do have a double fit, and the game is by no meand unreasonable|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c4|mc|9|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAQJ5H952DA97CK96,S76432HA8DJ5CJ732,SHQT643DT83CAQT84,SKT98HKJ7DKQ642C5|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S!|an|0-4 spades F1|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|r|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|d8|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|sT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d6|pc|h5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s2|pc|h4|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAKJ6H72DA42CAKQ6,S843HAKT9864D83CT,ST975HDT975C98542,SQ2HQJ53DKQJ6CJ73|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|bjacobs: A simple hand, but note that East did a good thing (in my book)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: He didn't bid 4@H over 3@H, which can really only help the enemy|pg|| nt|xenya: N must be happy to see the dummy|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h7|nt|xenya: actually 12 tricks on this layout|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|d7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|mc|12|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAKJ6H72DA42CAKQ6,S843HAKT9864D83CT,ST975HDT975C98542,SQ2HQJ53DKQJ6CJ73|sv|b|mb|1C!|an|bal 11-13,or 17-19, or club|mb|d|mb|1D!|an|TRF to 1 heart|mb|p|mb|2H|an|4 hearts|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|c5|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h8|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg|| mc|3|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SAKQ97HQ73DT83CK2,SJ65H8654DAKJ2C96,S82HAJDQ9654CJ873,ST43HKT92D7CAQT54|sv|o|nt|xenya: even no guess is needed...|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Half way point, and The Latin will be looking for some better luck in the last 10 boards|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: I hope Double Means Something|pg|| mb|2D|nt|xenya: how often do you make slam with zero points in your hand?|pg|| nt|vugraph128: they are speaking, not writing, so the meaning is not clear, but dbl and 2@d were alerted.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|bjacobs: Contravention of Burns Law Squared (the 5 card fit)|pg|| nt|vugraph128: west said "east forgot."|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Tut tut - he should write that down|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Burn's Law of Total Trumps is violated frequently on BBO vugraph|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Walddk3: For those who don't know that law, here is an explanation .....|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|c4|nt|Walddk3: A colloquial quip by our fellow commentator, David Burn of London, England, who stated flatly and perhaps facetiously that when you are declarer, the total number of trumps held by ...|pg|| nt|Walddk3: your side should be greater than the total number of trumps held by your opponents|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|c8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|vugraph128: Father is angry now.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|c7|nt|bjacobs: He didn't think he had forgotten anything? (Father is East)|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SAKQ97HQ73DT83CK2,SJ65H8654DAKJ2C96,S82HAJDQ9654CJ873,ST43HKT92D7CAQT54|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|an|nat.inv|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|s4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SAKT973H9DKJCJ532,S865HKQ4DAT752CK7,SJ2HJ8732D43CQT98,SQ4HAT65DQ986CA64|sv|n|nt|vugraph128: I do not know which is correct...|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|an|3-card !h support|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|xenya: support double?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: There's no game, but everyone bids one|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Just need hearts 3-3 now, and as it turns out, it's not close|pg|| pc|h9|nt|xenya: 4@H is reasonable -- if you have to bid game here -- just needs trumps 3-3 plus a bit more|pg|| pc|h4|nt|xenya: sorry Bill :)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s3|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d5|nt|bjacobs: NP. This is an auction that no-one should stress over. !@@ $ happens|pg|| pc|h7|pc|dQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|s9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c2|pc|dT|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SAKT973H9DKJCJ532,S865HKQ4DAT752CK7,SJ2HJ8732D43CQT98,SQ4HAT65DQ986CA64|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|4+ hearts|mb|1S|mb|d!|an|3 cards support|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d5|pc|h3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h6|mc|7|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SKJ92HT9642D5CQ42,SQ74HAQDAKQT2CT63,SHJ853D98764CK985,SAT8653HK7DJ3CAJ7|sv|b|nt|bjacobs: Easy to get too high in spades on this one|pg|| nt|bjacobs: East opens 1@S, West gets real interested|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, very likely they'll bid another poor slam|pg|| nt|bjacobs: For example, just turn the @HK into the @SK, and West can see an easy grand slam|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Score of 700 on a board at the other table - haven't seen that number for about 20 years|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|Walddk3: Good evening to Tom Jacob from New Zealand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: hello Tom|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Great stop, but this might be too high as well|pg|| pc|h2|nt|motbocaj: hi all.. so just 8 boards to go and the match still on the line|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s4|nt|motbocaj: Had declarer won in hand to lead a spade South would have had to take his King immediately to switch to @C's|pg|| pc|c5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| nt|xenya: excellent switch|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s9|mc|10|nt|bjacobs: I reckon -100 is an ok score for E/W|pg|| nt|motbocaj: getting to 5 of a major and going one down is not pleasant|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SKJ92HT9642D5CQ42,SQ74HAQDAKQT2CT63,SHJ853D98764CK985,SAT8653HK7DJ3CAJ7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|10-13 6card suit, else weak two|mb|p|mb|2N|an|inv+|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|shortness|mb|p|mb|4N!|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|s9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S4HA982DQJ7CQJ532,SQT2H76DT9543CT86,SAK96HQJTDAK82CA4,SJ8753HK543D6CK97|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: i don't believe this|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|bjacobs: Undo?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraph128: sorry|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: If they bid this slam, the match is over|pg|| mb|2N|an|0-1 !s, 5+!c|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|vugraph128: 2NT = 0-1 @s, 5+c, 4-5 points (A=3, K=2, Q=1)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|motbocaj: 5@S on the last board was unlucky for EW in all respects, this one couldn't be more friendly for NS if they get high|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Slam here is approximately on the heart finesse|pg|| nt|xenya: not a bas slam -- needs @HK onside or some luck in clubs|pg|| nt|xenya: *bad|pg|| nt|vugraph128: 3@s = 1-4-3-5, 5 points.|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Which slam do you want to play Vladimir?|pg|| nt|xenya: NT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Then I think it's the heart finesse of bust|pg|| mb|4D|nt|xenya: yes, that's right -- miscounted|pg|| mb|p|nt|motbocaj: Doesn't it always need the heart finesse? 4@C, 4@D and 2@S still needs 2 heart tricks|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: In 6@H, you have a tiny extra chance if the heart finesse fails: clubs 3-3 with the king on side|pg|| pc|dT|nt|vugraph128: North said he ou|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|vugraph128: he could not 3NT because that is a relay.|pg|| nt|motbocaj: So a defender in the West seat should not win the first @H with Kxx, but win the 2nd and play a 3rd round of trumps to prevent that|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|hK|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s5|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S4HA982DQJ7CQJ532,SQT2H76DT9543CT86,SAK96HQJTDAK82CA4,SJ8753HK543D6CK97|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|an|20-22 bal or semi-bal|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|Romex stayman|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|may have 4spades|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4N!|an|spade control|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c2|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|s9|pc|c9|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAJT9643HJ5D2CJ96,SKQ752HKTDAJ96C32,S8HQ732DKQ875CT87,SHA9864DT43CAKQ54|sv|n|nt|Walddk3: Other semi-final at halftime: Israel 42 up against YOI|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|motbocaj: Ah! An opportunity|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Yes, but I suppose it happens at the other table as well|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Israel won in 2005 and 2006, the Netherlands last year, but they were knocked out in the Swiss|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|nt|xenya: i'm not sure -- 3@S is not so very obvious at this vulnerability|pg|| nt|motbocaj: The @S8 is useful, to hold the trump losers|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Fair point about 3@S at adverse vul|pg|| pc|d9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|s4|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Sticks and Circles (1100)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|dT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: So much for @S8 Tom!|pg|| nt|xenya: a bit more now?|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|d8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|c5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|nt|bjacobs: I suppose if East had stiff honour, then @SA is right, but would West go for a penalty with Kxxx?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| mc|4|nt|motbocaj: Well if you go around wasting your @S8's|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAJT9643HJ5D2CJ96,SKQ752HKTDAJ96C32,S8HQ732DKQ875CT87,SHA9864DT43CAKQ54|sv|n|mb|2S|an|weak|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s8|mc|4|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SK4HK762D93CK8642,SAQT5HQT85DQT7CJ5,S98763H943DAJ6CQT,SJ2HAJDK8542CA973|sv|e|nt|xenya: what do you call 1400, Bill?|pg|| nt|motbocaj: A minus|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I think that's Telephone Number territory|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Or a Zip Code?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: This could be an exciting finale|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|nt|motbocaj: A good stop?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 2NT is everyone's unfavourite contract, but it might work well here|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|xenya: well if you guess diamonds (which you won't)...|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes, so much depends on that @DJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|motbocaj: I guess he doesn't want to make 3...|pg|| nt|xenya: 6@C bid and made on bd 14 in the other room|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Lucky 6@C on 14 for The Latin - balances the lucky 4@S on Board 5 for Mahaffey|pg|| nt|motbocaj: Nystrom may have to play a heart to the King to get a club through the Jack|pg|| nt|bjacobs: This looks tired play be West|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Although it does give him a route of sorts to 8 tricks: 3 in each major and 1 in each minor|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|hK|pg|| nt|xenya: so it was a good stop after all -- at least for this room|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|nt|bjacobs: Well, a real potential swing for someone on that board|pg|| nt|xenya: no, wrong again|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SK4HK762D93CK8642,SAQT5HQT85DQT7CJ5,S98763H943DAJ6CQT,SJ2HAJDK8542CA973|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|an|11+ relay|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|11-13 bal|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c7|mc|8|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAQ6HAJ42DAT4CA76,SKJ7H965DQJ762C82,ST2HK8D9853CKJ543,S98543HQT73DKCQT9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: 1@C 16+|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: 1@D 0-7|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: 1NT 17-19|pg|| pc|d6|nt|bjacobs: Not too many problems here|pg|| nt|motbocaj: This should come home OK|pg|| nt|xenya: yes, i think i could make this|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Match very close now|pg|| nt|Walddk3: 7 more IMPs to The Latin on 15|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|bjacobs: They stayed in 2@S, but must have squandered @S8, like here|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sJ|nt|Walddk3: On 15 the Swedes went for 1100|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|motbocaj: It may be possible to force an extra spade trick (in 3@S X) if the last side suit trick was won by East and a @H pushed through|pg|| nt|Walddk3: sorry, Argentina/Brazil rather|pg|| nt|motbocaj: Anyway here declarer may be able to cash clubs and exit in @D's, forcing a lead into a major tenace|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|motbocaj: Or he could just get it now :)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Declarer thinking about clubs 4-1|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|bjacobs: And safely sets up his 9th trick in diamonds|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Well, his 8th anyway, but this is definitely the right play|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAQ6HAJ42DAT4CA76,SKJ7H965DQJ762C82,ST2HK8D9853CKJ543,S98543HQT73DKCQT9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SAT9765HDAQJ5C842,SJ4HQ865D7CKQ9763,S83HAKT432D6432CJ,SKQ2HJ97DKT98CAT5|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2D|an|hearts|mb|p|nt|motbocaj: This is a close business in 4@S|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: A trump lead would murder 4@S, but it's not likely I suppose|pg|| nt|Walddk3: I think we're getting a new leader after board 16|pg|| nt|Walddk3: The Swedes in 3NT, going 1 off most likely|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 3NT going down?|pg|| nt|Walddk3: So 6 IMPs to The Latin|pg|| nt|bjacobs: That damn @DJ|pg|| nt|xenya: exciting|pg|| mb|3N|nt|Walddk3: Scored now|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Ah, now 3NT the other way|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: There are 8 tricks, and where there's 8?|pg|| nt|Walddk3: The Latin were down and out 30 mins ago, but never give up!|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bjacobs: Where there's 8, there's 9!!!|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|d2|nt|motbocaj: The momentum of the last 7 or 8 hands is being maintained|pg|| nt|bjacobs: East thinks he has 5 losers after a diamond continuation, but the defence cannot take them!|pg|| nt|xenya: 9 tricks now, but declarer doesn't know S is void i hearts...|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|nt|xenya: but he has no choice anyway|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cA|nt|xenya: the remainder goes to declarer|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SAT9765HDAQJ5C842,SJ4HQ865D7CKQ9763,S83HAKT432D6432CJ,SKQ2HJ97DKT98CAT5|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|d|an|T/O|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|s4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|s8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|h6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SQ65H42DKQJ963CQ7,ST8HQ875DA874CT52,SA942HAKJDT2CAJ64,SKJ73HT963D5CK983|sv|e|nt|motbocaj: Greate result to have on the scoresheet|pg|| nt|xenya: indeed|pg|| nt|motbocaj: Have the Latin been in the lead in this match before Roland?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: They were at the start of this set|pg|| mb|2D|an|opening hand with !d, no 4-card major|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: It's been a rollercoaster|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|6+!d, no shortness|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|motbocaj: In many partnerships this would go pass 1NT 3NT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h9|pc|dK|nt|Walddk3: No Tom|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|motbocaj: No? not allowed|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d9|nt|motbocaj: You would all open 3@D I suppose|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SQ65H42DKQJ963CQ7,ST8HQ875DA874CT52,SA942HAKJDT2CAJ64,SKJ73HT963D5CK983|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|s4|mc|11|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2ST4HKJ7D9862C9842,SQ752H8432DQ4CJ75,SA63H9DAJT753CAT3,SKJ98HAQT65DKCKQ6|sv|b|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Final board of this thrilling match. Many thanks to our superb operator Nobuyuki Hayashi.|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|d|mb|2N!|nt|bjacobs: And well done to our commentary team of Vladimir Ivanov, Tom Jacob and Roland Wald. |pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Our appreciation to NEC (sponsor) and the JCBL for bringing this prestigious event to BBO vugraph and inviting us to participate. Omasa-san and Bob Geller have been instrumental in ...|pg|| nt|bjacobs: setting up a fine show|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Now back to the bridge|pg|| nt|motbocaj: Even overtricks could have a say in the result of this match now|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Is 2NT a psyche?|pg|| mb|3C|mb|d|nt|bjacobs: We were talking about the 2 imp double on board 3 Tom|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Currently responsible for two-thirds of their lead|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Best to pass this out|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Even better is to then beat it on a club lead|pg|| mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|motbocaj: Declarer could hold up to gain a tempo that could lead to spades being discarded on the long club and @HK|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Mahaffey in a spot of trouble now. The Swedes missed 3NT on 18|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| mc|8|nt|bjacobs: Bertheau will regret not leading a spade to that contract|pg|| nt|bjacobs: It's probably cost him the match|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Thanks all, bye for now|pg|| nt|xenya: thanks everyone -- bye|pg|| nt|motbocaj: You might like to get to the other room and pray for a miracle if you are a Mahaffey supporter|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2ST4HKJ7D9862C9842,SQ752H8432DQ4CJ75,SA63H9DAJT753CAT3,SKJ98HAQT65DKCKQ6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h5|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| mc|8|pg||